Possible new playoff scenario
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I was just using the primitive reasoning you did.
So head to head for 1 loss teams.
Does who the loss was to matter?
What about who they beat?
Not saying Bama over Texas, but the "well they beat them" isn't reason enough.
BTW this season is an example of why a 12 team playoff should be good and fun. I'm hoping we'll see a good number of worthy teams vying for the title like we had this year. Next year all of them will have a chance.
People complain about NIL and portal but I've been saying it seems like there's more opportunity from the top on down. I'm hoping this kind of year is something we see more frequently.
People complain about NIL and portal but I've been saying it seems like there's more opportunity from the top on down. I'm hoping this kind of year is something we see more frequently.
The entire season including head-to head where it exists matter.
Florida State and Alabama have 2 common opponents-LSU and Florida. On scores alone it looks like they were equal in how they beat each team.
Going undefeated gives FSU the edge. Alabama then moves on to compete with Texas and Texas gets the edge based on head-to head.
Going undefeated gives FSU the edge. Alabama then moves on to compete with Texas and Texas gets the edge based on head-to head.
Why does "undefeated" give FSU the edge?
What was their SOS?
Undefeated against an easier schedule isn't some great feat (see Liberty).
Can't just blindly revert to "undefeated".
They beat 8 bowl teams and scheduled 2 SEC teams as out of conference games
You cannot do better than win all your games.
It’s the differentiator, not the sole reason. It’s page 4 of the discussion. Wasn’t going to start over just for you.
8 bowl teams is good.
So then what is their SOS compared to the rest?
Scheduling "2 SEC teams" doesn't mean anything if the teams ended up bad. Sorry - bad luck.
Unless just because they are "SEC teams" gives them some higher status.
"You cannot do better than win all your games"?
Sounds like you may be on the Liberty bandwagon then.
Michigan, Washington, FSU, Liberty: You cannot do better than win all your games.
Here are the stats...SOR, SOS, FPI, etc..
2023 Resume College Football Power Index - ESPN
View the 2023 Resume College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance of the season.
Well, if you read my full thought, I said they could not be jumped by a 1 loss team. If all 5 are undefeated or mult Conf Champs have 1 or more losses, then we would have to go through this.
But if there are 4 or less undefeated- they really should get it.
With Bama and Texas, head to head is the only data point. That result says Texas is better.
Here are the stats...SOR, SOS, FPI, etc..
2023 Resume College Football Power Index - ESPN
View the 2023 Resume College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance of the season.www.espn.com
Yikes - FSU SOS is 55??
What is SOR? Is it reliable. Makes FSU look good.
Oh but SOR has Alabama over Texas so it must be wrong?
It does stick out. Stats are stats but I personally keep an eye on game control. If you go by that interestingly it is Michigan, Texas, Washington, Ohio State.
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Florida was 5-7.
LSU #13 is a good win.
Not as good as Texas (Alabama), Alabama (Georgia) or Georgia (# 11 Ole Miss).
Yes FSU/Bama have common opponents.
But then also other opponents that aren’t as good.
Moral of the story: not as simplistic as “undefeated so they should be in. Can’t do better than your schedule”.
Which you agree with since Liberty should be out.
According to what metric? The information I provided was based on the CFP committee determinations.
Based on what I provided, I believe there is. I don’t care about how much the bottom few teams on a teams schedule can impact numbers. Nobody in this type of discussion is losing to them.
Not sure you fascination with Liberty- They are not a P5 so unless they do it again like Cincy had to do, and have a weak P5 group, then a G5 really has no chance.
And there should be a simplistic rule o start the "bidding" so to speak. If you are one of only 4 or less undefeated P5 Champions, you are in.
Otherwise, you are getting penalized for your other conference team's failures.
If you want to use SOS- then that is fair if and when there are 5 undefeated P5 Champions or if there are 3 or less undefeated Conf Champions in P5.
List the reason for that instead of just making a comment to
Sound like a smart aleck.
Here is what has been presented so far to support Texas:
- Texas is better than OU because one should consider the whole season.
- Texas is better than Bama because one should consider only one game.
Well- except for the fact that it was head to head at Bama's home...Kind of a big/huge difference
I like that last point.
Almost like a NET system but for CFB.
Or a “top half SOS” type of thing?
How many Quad 1 teams did they play and how did they do?
Because CFB only deals with the best of the best - there is no need to factor in Quad 3 or Quad 4 games.
If you lost to a Quad 4 team then you aren’t even part of the discussion for Top 4.
You all are lucky. If @Plum Street made this prediction you'd never hear the end of it.
