Possible next coach name I was told

[HP_Fan]

Do we know of previous hires done at other programs by Collegiate Sports Solutions?
This is a dated and not very flattering article on college sports consultants in general, and even includes a paragraph or three on the Julie Hermann mess at Rutgers.

Covid and the College Sports Consultant - The Intercollegiate

Amid a global pandemic that has imperiled the upcoming college sports season, will athletic departments keep finding new reasons to hire outside help?

theintercollegiate.com

Do we know of previous hires done at other programs by Collegiate Sports Solutions?

This is a dated and not very flattering article on college sports consultants in general, and even includes a paragraph or three on the Julie Hermann mess at Rutgers.

Covid and the College Sports Consultant - The Intercollegiate

Amid a global pandemic that has imperiled the upcoming college sports season, will athletic departments keep finding new reasons to hire outside help?

theintercollegiate.com

It isn’t a surprise that RU has hired an search firm. I’m more surprised that they made an announcement about it. Maybe to reassure fans that they are taking this seriously?

Using executive search firms is common practice in academia. Searches for top positions always use them. They screen candidates, reach out to potential candidates, etc. The committee that interviews and chooses the final hire is made up of university admin/staff/faculty.

The vetting is not an investigation, though perhaps it should be, it’s more of a confirmation of the CV/resume and references. Ultimately responsibility for a hire lies with the university.

I don’t know if RU hires consultants for other issues in the athletic department but hiring a search firm shouldn’t be seen as a red flag. I just hope we have an answer soon.

 

[runrutgersrun]

Maybe Rutgers being a state school, is the coach a state employee? If so, does that bring additional layer(s) of needed approvals (maybe even requirements) when hiring high-paid coaches here - that a Villanova doesn't even worry about? In NJ, you better dot every "i" and cross every "t", if so. It seems there have been many disparaging articles about the RU athletic department over the years starting with "the football coach at Rutgers is the highest paid state employee in NJ"...and Greg is pretty much as straight as an arrow.

 

[anon_ivydyf0amkzay]

That makes very little sense. So, you are saying a search firm never recommends an up and coming assistant coach that could be a good fit? Minnesota MBB, PSU MBB both hired assistants with a search firm.

Finding and recommending good coaches is exactly what search firms do.

Except Chelsea would come to RU in a nanosecond without the waste of resources on some “firm search” if offered. There’s no need to “research her”…she’s more than known to RU and would have CVS’ blessing.

This screams NOT chelasea…she’s better off where she is and has a shot at a sweet SEC or ACC gig in the not too distant future.

 

[MADHAT1]

Just a guess, I feel if there were interested candidates Hobbs wouldn't need to hire a search firm.
Getting a HC on board needs to be done quickly and with the uncertainty surrounding CVS' return because of the extensions Stringer asked for and received I would guess Hobbs put out feelers through third parties to people close to who Hobbs thought might be interested and found those that were considering the job at first decided to keep their other plans in place because they were committed to them fully after getting tired of waiting to see if Rutgers would need a new HC..

Refuting my statement ( above) by showing it's a normal business move
How much did Rutgers pay Eastman & Beaudine for 2 coaching searches? - nj.com
(Chris Ash and Steve Pikiell)
Rutgers paid the Plano, Tex.-based firm $75,000 for guidance in a six-day search that resulted in the Dec. 5, 2015, hiring of football coach Chris Ash and $60,000 in a nine-day search that resulted in the March 19 hiring of men's basketball coach Steve Pikiell, according to Kevin Lorincz, the school's associate athletics director for communications.
https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2016/03/what_rutgers_paid_eastman_beaudine_for_coaching_se.html

Rutgers takes a step in filling football coaching vacancy by hiring search firm
Oct. 14, 2019,

Two weeks after firing Chris Ash and appointing Nunzio Campanile as the team’s interim head coach, Rutgers on Monday announced the retention of Ventura Partners, an executive search and talent-management agency that will offer consulting services

https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/...ancy-by-hiring-search-firm-what-it-means.html

 

[rubaseball78]

Maybe Rutgers being a state school, is the coach a state employee? If so, does that bring additional layer(s) of needed approvals (maybe even requirements) when hiring high-paid coaches here - that a Villanova doesn't even worry about? In NJ, you better dot every "i" and cross every "t", if so. It seems there have been many disparaging articles about the RU athletic department over the years starting with "the football coach at Rutgers is the highest paid state employee in NJ"...and Greg is pretty much as straight as an arrow.

Yes, coaches are state employees which is why I said above Hobbs couldn’t do a coach search while she was LOA.

 

[rubaseball78]

Except Chelsea would come to RU in a nanosecond without the waste of resources on some “firm search” if offered. There’s no need to “research her”…she’s more than known to RU and would have CVS’ blessing.

This screams NOT chelasea…she’s better off where she is and has a shot at a sweet SEC or ACC gig in the not too distant future.

No need to research her but would be a need to benchmark her against other candidates.

 

[PaKnight]

Do we know of previous hires done at other programs by Collegiate Sports Solutions?
This is a dated and not very flattering article on college sports consultants in general, and even includes a paragraph or three on the Julie Hermann mess at Rutgers.

Covid and the College Sports Consultant - The Intercollegiate

Amid a global pandemic that has imperiled the upcoming college sports season, will athletic departments keep finding new reasons to hire outside help?

theintercollegiate.com

Julie was hired because Sweeney pushed for her even though she was not recommended by the search firm.

 

[Mr_Twister]

Julie was hired because Sweeney pushed for her even though she was not recommended by the search firm.

Would like to see a list of hires facilitated at other programs by Collegiate Sports Solutions.

 

[eso1989]

Wake Forest just fired their WBB coach of 10 years yesterday. Let’s see who finds a coach first!

 

[RUBOB72]

Would like to see a list of hires facilitated at other programs by Collegiate Sports Solutions.

Gee I wonder why?

 

[RUBOB72]

Julie was hired because Sweeney pushed for her even though she was not recommended by the search firm.

Gee I wonder why?

 

[HeavenUniv.]

Today is May 12

 

[OJRutgers]

Here we are, its Friday the 13th. Maybe they will announce a hire today.

 

[HeavenUniv.]

Here we are, its Friday the 13th. Maybe they will announce a hire today.

And it has now been 13 months since Stringer left the program

 

[HeavenUniv.]

Armed with a new contract, Pat Hobbs maps out a brighter future for Rutgers athletics | Politi

Rutgers athletic director Pat Hobbs, who signed a new contract through 2028, deserves credit for the recent success in Piscataway.

www.nj.com

 

[RUBOB72]

Who is our new coach?

 

[MADHAT1]

Who is our new coach?

the one that gets hired: eventually if not sooner 😁

 

[RULoyal]

the one that gets hired: eventually if not sooner 😁

I fear the longer this drags out the more underwhelming the hire.

 

[MADHAT1]

I fear the longer this drags out the more underwhelming the hire.

I share the same fear.

 

[RUBOB72]

the one that gets hired: eventually if not sooner 😁

That is why I asked the question realizing this is dragging on. Over the years we have had too many of these coaching hire goes nowhere for weeks. I ‘m all for Hobb’s but you would have thought over the past 3-4 months he had put out feelers of interest even with Stringer’s LOA.

 

[MADHAT1]

That is why I asked the question realizing this is dragging on. Over the years we have had too many of these coaching hire goes nowhere for weeks. I ‘m all for Hobb’s but you would have thought over the past 3-4 months he had put out feelers of interest even with Stringer’s LOA.

I would expect Hobbs used 3rd parties to gauge interest from people close to the possible replacements he thought would be a good hire.
I wouldn't be surprised if some had some interest , but decided that waiting to find out if the job would be available was taking to long and decided to make other plans .
When CVS retired third parties close to those RU would target let it be known the ones RU was looking at made other plans and it was to late to change them

 

[RULoyal]

Just throwing this out there - would it make any sense at all to go through another year with interim HC (not Eatman) and then hire a permanent HC at the end of next season (unless the interim was killing it)? Or would that totally kill recruiting and set us back even further?

 

[RUBOB72]

If you did that and with the current defections and lack of recruits a very bad season would literally kill this program. Spend the $$$$ and make it advantageous to the next head coach. Only someone from Rutgers would think that would be a good for the team and school.

 

[RULoyal]

If you did that and with the current defections and lack of recruits a very bad season would literally kill this program. Spend the $$$$ and make it advantageous to the next head coach. Only someone from Rutgers would think that would be a good for the team and school.

I didn’t say it was a good idea. Just something for discussion.

 

[MADHAT1]

Just throwing this out there - would it make any sense at all to go through another year with interim HC (not Eatman) and then hire a permanent HC at the end of next season (unless the interim was killing it)? Or would that totally kill recruiting and set us back even further?

to me that would hurt more than help and recruiting would suffer the most
The good players would look at Rutgers as a program that can't even interest a good coach to take the job on a permanent bases and another year of losing would make that worse.
The perception being sent out, with a move like you're throwing out ,would be one of a second rate organization that can't get a HC.
Then when a new HC was hired, that HC would have the second rate program perception to overcome and with all the confusion that surrounded Rutgers last season overcoming that 2nd rate type of program thinking would even be harder to overcome after adding another year to whose gonna be the HC by not settling it now.

 

[RULoyal]

to me that would hurt more than help and recruiting would suffer the most
The good players would look at Rutgers as a program that can't even interest a good coach to take the job on a permanent bases and another year of losing would make that worse.
The perception being sent out, with a move like you're throwing out ,would be one of a second rate organization that can't get a HC.
Then when a new HC was hired, that HC would have the second rate program perception to overcome and with all the confusion that surrounded Rutgers last season overcoming that 2nd rate type of program thinking would even be harder to overcome after adding another year to whose gonna be the HC by not settling it now.

Agreed, it would probably hurt more than help. Hopefully we don’t end up with a second rate coach after this search.

 

[RUcrazee]

Just throwing this out there - would it make any sense at all to go through another year with interim HC (not Eatman) and then hire a permanent HC at the end of next season (unless the interim was killing it)? Or would that totally kill recruiting and set us back even further?

I thought that way might be the best route when I suggested that they fire Eatman and talk Chelsea into taking the interim spot. That was when CVS's uncertainty was still in the picture.

At this point, I think if we are pursuing all the good candidates out there, we can get one. I just sense that we may be putting all our efforts into coaches who are already in a good spot(Banghart, Barnes Arrico, and even Berube). Berube just pulled in the best recruiting class in Princeton history. For many of those players, ivy league academics along with top bball program was probably the deciding factor. She has a chance to do something special there. May be kinda tough for her to uproot all that so soon.

Yale just recently snapped up Berube's asst. that I thought was worth a look for RU(Dalila Esche).

We need to pursue some of the candidates who may be looking to move up into the P5 ranks or WNBA/NBA asst. coaches looking to run their own program. They have all the incentive to come to RU right now.

Shereka Wright, Kristi Toliver, Lindsey Harding

 

[RUBOB72]

I didn’t say it was a good idea. Just something for discussion.

I know you didn’t and I didn’t accuse you of saying it was a good idea. I specifically said it would kill the women’s program. We have wasted $$$$$ in WBB salaries of several million dollars on coaches who had very little success in 2021-2022. I think discussion is great but keeping Eatman is not a good idea . The man is a good number 2 guy.

 

[RUcrazee]

We need to pursue some of the candidates who may be looking to move up into the P5 ranks or WNBA/NBA asst. coaches looking to run their own program. They have all the incentive to come to RU right now.

Shereka Wright, Kristi Toliver, Lindsey Harding

I can't leave out Tammi Reiss. I just remember, in recent years, her saying that RI was home for her and that she wasn't leaving. I think she has a longggg contract extension there also...not sure how easy it would be for her to get out of.

 

[RUBOB72]

The salaries of CV Stringer plus her severance plus assistants salaries in 2021-2022. But there is no good excuse that a B1G program such as Rutgers can’t hire a viable WBB HC.

 

[RULoyal]

I know you didn’t and I didn’t accuse you of saying it was a good idea. I specifically said it would kill the women’s program. We have wasted $$$$$ in WBB salaries of several million dollars on coaches who had very little success in 2021-2022. I think discussion is great but keeping Eatman is not a good idea . The man is a good number 2 guy.

Mistook “Only someone from Rutgers would think that would be a good for the team and school.” as being directed at me. Starting our HC search in May really puts us at a disadvantage. I don’t want to overpay just to get someone serviceable with HC experience. I’m thinking it’s either that or hope for that up and comer of an assistant coach.

 

[RUBOB72]

It’s nice to see most on this board understand why this is an important hire. C Viv just stayed a year too long . Had she been here for 2021-2022 I believe this team would have been able to jell and be more competitive with a stable situation. Time to move on to another chapter in Rutgers WBB.

 

[MADHAT1]

The salaries of CV Stringer plus her severance plus assistants salaries in 2021-2022. But there is no good excuse that a B1G program such as Rutgers can’t hire a viable WBB HC.

agree CVS' $872,988 retirement severance settlement and her assistants termination payout shouldn't hamper what Hobbs can offer to bring in a quality HC and that coach's ability to bring in the type of assistants that will help him/her suceed at RU.

 

[RUBOB72]

agree CVS' $872,988 retirement severance settlement and her assistants termination payout shouldn't hamper what Hobbs can offer to bring in a quality HC and that coach's ability to bring in the type of assistants that will help him/her suceed at RU.

Or They and Them … 😜

 

[rubaseball78]

And it has now been 13 months since Stringer left the program

You are being a jerk. Can’t replace someone on official loa, particularly a state employee. What’s your point on this nonsense.