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Coaches usually reach out to people they have coached with before. Chris Partridge may be on his list, who was Co-DC at Wisconsin with Ash. Went to Arkansas with Bielema. Looks like they traveled together going back to their time at Drake.

He is currently HC at FAU, and had two 3-9 seasons. Makes $525,000. Maybe a good time for him to bail and get back to the B1G?

From His Bio:
Partridge was widely credited as Wisconsin's lead recruiter in the state of Florida, and helped land five-star running back Alex Collins for the Razorbacks in his first two months on the job.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Partridge

And for the poster who say Ash is Dick Anderson-get a grip. He's got a great sense of humor:
http://arkansasnews.com/sections/razorbacks/ash-partridge-ready-great-challenge.html
South Florida kind of tough guy attitude.”

“If you’ve ever seen the picture on the bottle of Mr. Clean, the bald head and earrings, that was Charlie,” Ash said. “He was a guy from South Florida. He’s 5-10, but he was all muscled up and had a bald head and a goatee and earrings. “He’s tried to change that image a little bit. But he’s still a meat head.” Ash laughed as he said it. What else would you expect from college teammates?

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Thanks for looking up the names, always possible if they have prior associations with Ash. Cotton hasn't been in OC in awhile until this year. His scoring/total offense was in the 60s at UNLV this year. They were ranked in the 80s and 100s last year. So some nice improvement. Don't know much about the guy beyond that.

I could see McCarney be a AHC type or possible DC.
 
Cotton has a pro set background, but recently started applying pieces of the spread. So if Ash want a "Power Spread" offense, this might just be the guy.
UNLV was 3-9 this year, but it looks like defense was a big problem for them. They were 62nd in total offense this year with 405 yards per game.
 
Thanks for looking up the names, always possible if they have prior associations with Ash. Cotton hasn't been in OC in awhile until this year. His scoring/total offense was in the 60s at UNLV this year. They were ranked in the 80s and 100s last year. So some nice improvement. Don't know much about the guy beyond that.

I could see McCarney be a AHC type or possible DC.
While Ash really gushed about McCarney in one of the interviews posted yesterday, he is 62, and just had a disastrous run at North Texas, where he was fired.

Good to have another guy doing "research." LOL.
What was the total offense under Aranda? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
I hit up the Hawaii - UNLV game while in Vegas. I would argue they ran a spread type offense with, lots of TE utilization. Minimal QB runs but it was present with a crediting the game. Lots of power running and deep throws as UNLV had a pretty good WR
 
Cotton has a pro set background, but recently started applying pieces of the spread. So if Ash want a "Power Spread" offense, this might just be the guy.
UNLV actually had a HIGH SCHOOL COACH Tony Sanchez coach this year with a 3-9 record and this was Cotton first year as OC. I think we need someone that has been successful. I don't want his friend. We are gambling with a new Head coach with no head coach experience and a I want someone experienced winning on the offensive side as OC.

Penn State is considering Bowling Green OC, Memphis OC, Western Kentucky and St Louis OC Frank Cignetti and Colt OC. We need an explosive OC that can score lots of points.

http://www.tnonline.com/2015/dec/05/search-new-psu-offensive-coordinator
 
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Coaches usually reach out to people they have coached with before. Chris Partridge may be on his list, who was Co-DC at Wisconsin with Ash. Went to Arkansas with Bielema. Looks like they traveled together going back to their time at Drake.


He is currently HC at FAU, and had two 3-9 seasons. Makes $525,000. Maybe a good time for him to bail and get back to the B1G?

From His Bio:
Partridge was widely credited as Wisconsin's lead recruiter in the state of Florida, and helped land five-star running back Alex Collins for the Razorbacks in his first two months on the job.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Partridge

And for the poster who say Ash is Dick Anderson-get a grip. He's got a great sense of humor:
http://arkansasnews.com/sections/razorbacks/ash-partridge-ready-great-challenge.html
South Florida kind of tough guy attitude.”

“If you’ve ever seen the picture on the bottle of Mr. Clean, the bald head and earrings, that was Charlie,” Ash said. “He was a guy from South Florida. He’s 5-10, but he was all muscled up and had a bald head and a goatee and earrings.

“He’s tried to change that image a little bit. But he’s still a meat head.”

Ash laughed as he said it. What else would you expect from college teammates?

Partridge and Ash have known each other for roughly 20 years, dating back to their playing days under current Montana State coach Rob Ash at Drake. Partridge was a three-year starter at defensive tackle, a team captain and NSCA All-American.
When Coach B came here, I had options,” Ash said. “I had a lot of options from our success at Wisconsin. But it was important for me to come here, not only with Coach B, but with people that I had a comfort level with because we’re taking on a big task. We’ve got a big job ahead of us to get this thing going in the right direction. I wanted to do it with people I’m comfortable with and I had the same philosophies.

“Having Charlie here to coach the D-Line was a big piece of that.”

But it’s clear Ash and Partridge have a unique familiarity with each other, which they believe was very important to laying the foundation at their new school.

“We’ve known each other so long we can argue and have a heated argument about something and it’s never personal,” said Partridge, who is Arkansas’ assistant head coach. “It’s never thought to be something more than just a discussion about we both want to do what’s right for the program and we know that’s the case.

“You know how it is. When you first meet somebody, for probably a year or two you’re trying to be polite and trying to make sure you don’t hurt anyone’s feelings. Well, all that for me and him are long gone.”

Bielema said the coaches are “off the charts” professionally.

He also added they’ve proven to have each other’s backs “through thick and thin.”


But Bielema admitted their comfort level together can be painful to watch.

“They do sound like a couple of school girls at times chirping back and forth about the most stupidest, most ridiculous things you’ve ever heard of,” said Bielema, who has had both coaches on his staff since Ash was named defensive backs coach at Wisconsin in 2010. “But I think it’s because they know each other so well.”

Partridge was a sophomore at Drake when Ash arrived. He said they never became close friends early on in college. Partridge actually roomed with another former Drake player-turned-coach in North Carolina State’s Dave Doeren.

Both figured out coaching would be their profession while at Drake. Partridge knew it after his freshman year, when plans to follow his brother’s footsteps as an accountant changed after taking his first class. Ash said he didn’t seriously begin considering it his junior season, then got a head start as a student coach his senior year when a knee injury sidelined him for good.

Both credit their coach at Drake — Rob Ash — for starting them down the path.

“We’re different,” Ash said of Rob Ash, who is not related even though they’re both from Ottumwa, Iowa. “But I’ve got a lot of respect for him. Obviously he’s done a great job with the players in his programs because people got into the profession.”

Said Partridge: “If I didn’t have that kind of experience, I’d never be coaching.”

Ash and Partridge worked together at Drake (1996-97) and Iowa State (2000-01) before splitting up for several years. Ash remained at Iowa State until 2006, then left for a two-year stint at San Diego State before returning to the Cyclones in 2009. Partridge, meanwhile, went to Eastern Illinois (2002) and Pittsburgh (2003-2007) before reuniting with Doeren on Bielema’s staff at Wisconsin in 2008.

Ash joined them in 2010. The three worked together that year before Doeren was named head coach at Northern Illinois. Ash was promoted to defensive coordinator.

“We had different paths,” Partridge said of Ash. “But to come back (to Wisconsin) and see what he head learned, see how had developed was amazing. Even though we kept in very close contact, until you see him relate to his kids, he had learned and grown so much. He did an unbelievable job right when he walked in the door.”

They’re hoping for similar success with the Razorbacks this season.

Both have been pleased with a defensive front that boasts experience among its starters, including preseason All-SEC selection Chris Smith. There are returning starters in the secondary with safeties Eric Bennett and Rohan Gaines, and cornerback Tevin Mitchel, too. But there are questions elsewhere, including linebacker where the Razorbacks have been working to build depth.

Linebacker Austin Jones, who will be one of the first-team starters at linebacker Saturday, said players have “embraced” the defensive plan. Defensive end Chris Smith said Ash and Partridge have been tough, “but it’s all love.”

“He keeps stuff very vanilla,” Smith said of Ash’s defense. “He doesn’t put in a lot of install and things of that nature. He just lets us go play. He tells us, ‘It’s not the play I call, it’s the guys that go execute it.’ So that’s what we’re going to try to do.”

Success may not happen overnight in a conference that produces several NFL defensive players every year. But Ash and Partridge are enjoying the process and will get a first look at their new group on the field Saturday afternoon.

The college teammates are confident the Razorbacks will reach their goals.

“I feel like we’ve developed to this point where we can take what we did, adapt to what we have, and have a chance to put together a good defense in the best division in the best conference in football.” Partridge said. “What a great challenge.”

I like the idea of hiring Partridge would be a solid hire for us and he is a solid recruiter who has relationships in Florida.
 
UNLV actually had a HIGH SCHOOL COACH Tony Sanchez coach this year with a 3-9 record and this was Cotton first year as OC. I think we need someone that has been successful. I don't want his friend.

Penn State is considering Bowling Green OC, Memphis OC, Western Kentucky and St Louis OC Frank Cignetti and Colt OC. We need an explosive OC that can score lots of points.

http://www.tnonline.com/2015/dec/05/search-new-psu-offensive-coordinator

Cotton has been OC at New Mexico State, Nebraska and Iowa State:
1997–2002 New Mexico St. (AHC/OC/OL)
2003 Nebraska (OC/OL)
2004–2006 Iowa State (OC/OL)

In 1997, former Nebraska Cornhuskers player and New Mexico State University head coach Tony Samuel hired Cotton to the same position he had held at St. Cloud State, offensive coordinator and offensive line coach. Although championships eluded New Mexico State during Cotton's six years with the program, the production of his offensive players generated impressive statistics. New Mexico State ranked nationally in the top 25 in overall offense in 1998, 2000 and 2002, and was ranked nationally in the top 25 in rushing offense for all six years.

Cotton was hired by Nebraska head coach Frank Solich, once again to serve as offensive coordinator and offensive line coach, and helping Nebraska finish with a 10–3 record in 2003

Iowa State University hired Cotton in 2004, once again as offensive coordinator and offensive line coach. In his first season, Iowa State overcame a soft start by finishing strong and defeating the Miami RedHawks in the 2004 Independence Bowl. Over the following two years, he guided several Iowa State players to Big 12 Conference honors before he found himself once again let go after another coaching change. Unable to find a college coaching job, he spent the following year remaining in Ames, Iowa, as an unpaid volunteer coaching assistant at Ames High School.
 
I like the idea of hiring Partridge would be a solid hire for us and he is a solid recruiter who has relationships in Florida.
Agreed, but after my original post, I read that article on him, and he seems intent on building something at FAU. The problem with that is that he may run into the same problem Mario ran into at FIU. If he and Ash are as close as it seems, if we up his salary, and he realizes he may set himself up for his next job quicker as DC at a B1G team, he may take it.
 
Unable to find a college coaching job, he spent the following year remaining in Ames, Iowa, as an unpaid volunteer coaching assistant at Ames High School.

He was hired by a HIGH SCHOOL COACH at UNLV. Sounds like the resurrection of Flood. I want to get Bowling Green, Cinn, Western Kentucky, or any high power spread offense OC in here. That's the smart strategy Penn State is going for.
 
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Unable to find a college coaching job, he spent the following year remaining in Ames, Iowa, as an unpaid volunteer coaching assistant at Ames High School.

He was hired by a HIGH SCHOOL COACH at UNLV. Sounds like the resurrection of Flood. I want to get Bowling Green, Cinn, Western Kentucky, or any high power spread offense OC in here. That's the smart strategy Penn State is going for.
Wait, are you talking about Sanchez or Cotton? You are right that Sanchez was a high school coach before going to UNLV. But UNLV is awful in terms of facilities, recruiting and finances.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/opinio...tony-sanchez-success-during-first-unlv-season

Anyway, I'm not pushing for Cotton, or anyone else in this thread. I was putting out names of people Ash coached with.
 
On top of Eddie Gran and Lincoln Riley who I've mentioned multiple times, IU's OC Kevin Johns sounds like a nice name. Might want to come out from under the shadow Kevin Wilson and run his own show. He's been either co OC or OC over the last 4 years. Being at IU will have him familiar with all our competition specifically division competitors. He makes 332K.

http://iuhoosiers.com/coaches.aspx?path=football&rc=1157
 
On top of Eddie Gran and Lincoln Riley who I've mentioned multiple times, IU's OC Kevin Johns sounds like a nice name. Might want to come out from under the shadow Kevin Wilson and run his own show. He's been either co OC or OC over the last 4 years. Being at IU will have him familiar with all our competition specifically division competitors. He makes 332K.

http://iuhoosiers.com/coaches.aspx?path=football&rc=1157
Eddie Gran or Kevin Johns are good. I see Kevin Wilson the HC for Indiana only makes $1,200,000. Lincoln Riley not leaving Oklahoma for Rutgers.
 
Eddie Gran or Kevin Johns are good. I see Kevin Wilson the HC for Indiana only makes $1,200,000. Lincoln Riley not leaving Oklahoma for Rutgers.
Yea that was only on the condition those rumors of opening up the wallet are true. Pay him 1M, make OU match and see what happens. He makes 500K at OU. Barring that though it's not likely. Eddie Gran and Kevin Johns are more realistic.
 
Dunleavy 's column have to get access. Who are some of the names?
 
Rhoads crossed my mind as DC but was wondering the type of salary it would take to get him and I'd rather have that used on the OC position first before spending big on the DC position. If he can be had at a reasonable price (500-600K), I think he'd be good hire. He got 4.5M from ISU but I think in his case it was actually a 1 time lump sum payment so there might not be any restrictions to him taking other jobs.
 
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I hit up the Hawaii - UNLV game while in Vegas. I would argue they ran a spread type offense with, lots of TE utilization. Minimal QB runs but it was present with a crediting the game. Lots of power running and deep throws as UNLV had a pretty good WR
Sign me up.
 
Leaving aside the idea that Dunleavy is seemingly unaware of D'onofrio's exit from RU (or maybe he isn't and thinks anyone who was at RU then is gone now), this is an interesting article.

Since Ash should have a lot of idea of what he wants to do with the defense without a DC, I like the idea of hiring someone with a good amount of HC experience as DC. It could be a Zimmer as bench coach on the Yankees situation (which seemed to work).
 
Leaving aside the idea that Dunleavy is seemingly unaware of D'onofrio's exit from RU (or maybe he isn't and thinks anyone who was at RU then is gone now), this is an interesting article.

Since Ash should have a lot of idea of what he wants to do with the defense without a DC, I like the idea of hiring someone with a good amount of HC experience as DC. It could be a Zimmer as bench coach on the Yankees situation (which seemed to work).
Very good point. I predict he will have either Rhoads or McCarney (or both) on his staff.
 
Nice thread, good discussions.

I kind of like the idea of McCarney. Any new head coach does need SOME coaches around him with whom he is familiar working (maybe not all, but some). McCarney did a decent job, and in some years a really good job, at Iowa State (not the easiest place to win) - he had 5 bowl appearances in 11 years ... yes some REALLY bad seasons, but 1 really good season, and several solid seasons.

Remember, McCarney would not be the HEAD coach, but an assistant - different skills and responsibilities. And his age is not a big deal to me. I think a young head coach having an older "mentor-like" coach on the staff, like a "bench" coach in baseball or basketball is a pretty good idea: Especially to help with gaining more help on the admin side of being a head coach (which is a learning curve).

Now, is the best role for McCarney as a DC, or as an Assistant Head Coach? Assuming that is a conversation being had by Ash.
 
I'd guess in a week to 10 days myself for the coordinators as for the rest I don't know. I can easily see some position coaches being brought on too before a coordinator gets chosen.
 
Nice thread, good discussions.

I kind of like the idea of McCarney. Any new head coach does need SOME coaches around him with whom he is familiar working (maybe not all, but some). McCarney did a decent job, and in some years a really good job, at Iowa State (not the easiest place to win) - he had 5 bowl appearances in 11 years ... yes some REALLY bad seasons, but 1 really good season, and several solid seasons.

Remember, McCarney would not be the HEAD coach, but an assistant - different skills and responsibilities. And his age is not a big deal to me. I think a young head coach having an older "mentor-like" coach on the staff, like a "bench" coach in baseball or basketball is a pretty good idea: Especially to help with gaining more help on the admin side of being a head coach (which is a learning curve).

Now, is the best role for McCarney as a DC, or as an Assistant Head Coach? Assuming that is a conversation being had by Ash.
I can imagine McCarney coming in as defensive coordinator/assistant head coach. The defense will be Ash's no matter who is named DC, but presumably he would want someone he trusts to help him implement it and someone who wouldn't be 'gunning' for his job or trying to stake out his own identity. Ash spent a few years with McCarney at Iowa State, and I would think from McCarney's perspective, he would like to help Ash out, while not being a threatening presence to him on the staff. Additionally, you would get all of McCarney's head coaching experience as a resource to Ash if/when needed.

My brother-in-law played under Ash/McCarney at Iowa State and while I haven't gotten the full rundown on Ash yet other than 'good football mind', I know he really respected McCarney and thought a lot of him. Would seem to be a good two-year role for McCarney before he rides off into the sunset.
 
I can imagine McCarney coming in as defensive coordinator/assistant head coach. The defense will be Ash's no matter who is named DC, but presumably he would want someone he trusts to help him implement it and someone who wouldn't be 'gunning' for his job or trying to stake out his own identity. Ash spent a few years with McCarney at Iowa State, and I would think from McCarney's perspective, he would like to help Ash out, while not being a threatening presence to him on the staff. Additionally, you would get all of McCarney's head coaching experience as a resource to Ash if/when needed.

My brother-in-law played under Ash/McCarney at Iowa State and while I haven't gotten the full rundown on Ash yet other than 'good football mind', I know he really respected McCarney and thought a lot of him. Would seem to be a good two-year role for McCarney before he rides off into the sunset.
Get the rundown!. I am intrigued. McCarney' s last stop at North Texas did not end well, but some guys are better position coaches than Head Coaches.
 
Kerry Combs, DB coach at Ohio State, would be a great addition. He's a great recruiter and I wonder if he could be considered for the DC position. Another candidate would be Bob Fraser, Rutgers, was the DC in 2011 and Co DC in 2009-10 when Rutgers had a very good defense.
 
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