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JudgeSmails56 said:
Buxton is officially gone now too.
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Not surprised at all. Donny basically said that was a done deal on Flo like a month ago. Let’s see what the next big plan is since this has been going on since the Olympics. Will there even be a SKWC?
 
Dont worry all the gigglers will tell you all good. Yet we just lost arguably the 3 most accomplished members of the coaching staff certainly from a career perspective:
Buxton - Legendary
Pritzlaff - no words needed
Rivera - 2 world medals

But we added Labriola so that should offset everything. Lol.
 
ScottRU93 said:
Dont worry all the gigglers will tell you all good. Yet we just lost arguably the 3 most accomplished members of the coaching staff certainly from a career perspective:
Buxton - Legendary
Pritzlaff - no words needed
Rivera - 2 world medals

But we added Labriola so that should offset everything. Lol.
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I am upset with the losses.
I want to see
1) How do our wrestlers perform this year
2) What happens to SKWC? Does RU partner with NYAC?
3) What coaching changes are made in the off season.

I think it doesn't help to say the sky is falling (Every post) when there isn't anything that can realistically be done before the season. Labs could be an amazing coach. Mytich (spelling) seems to be a great recruiter.
The fact that Donny P. stayed this long is fairly amazing to me. He could have left for Maryland a few years ago and I am sure he had other offers,
 
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Everyone is freaking out, but nobody knows what the future will bring. Anything can happen. Let's hold off on the current coach bashing. The season hasn't even started yet. While on the surface they're setbacks, who knows what's gonna happen as a result 5 years down the road. By them leaving, it's also opened the door for new possibilities. Plus, NYC sucks and the politics of Columbia is brutal so who knows how long they last over there.
 
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njsportsphan said:
Everyone is freaking out, but nobody knows what the future will bring. Anything can happen. Let's hold off on the current coach bashing. The season hasn't even started yet. While on the surface they're setbacks, who knows what's gonna happen as a result 5 years down the road. By them leaving, it's also opened the door for new possibilities. Plus, NYC sucks and the politics of Columbia is brutal so who knows how long they last over there.
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I agree, but a ton of people will be out for blood/calling for a change if there is a noticeable regression in the team this year on the mat and if recruiting takes a turn for the worse. Goodale has an opportunity to bring in some quality replacements, but if he fails to do so it will probably be the reason for his departure. Can't let a good percentage of your staff walk, fail to adequately to replace them, and expect everyone to accept subpar/worsening results.
 
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I agree, but a ton of people will be out for blood/calling for a change if there is a noticeable regression in the team this year on the mat and if recruiting takes a turn for the worse. Goodale has an opportunity to bring in some quality replacements, but if he fails to do so it will probably be the reason for his departure. Can't let a good percentage of your staff walk, fail to adequately to replace them, and expect everyone to accept subpar/worsening results.
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Has a chance to replace? Donnie left in June and Seabass and Buxton were all but gone at that point. The time to replace them has passed. Coaching moves happened in the spring and early summer. Not a good love to go into the season down 2 coaches and having no one to run the RTC. Also look at the other RTC’s and tell me the SKWC stacks up. Shit Lehigh NYC Princeton and Penn blows ours away.
 
kupuna133 said:
Has a chance to replace? Donnie left in June and Seabass and Buxton were all but gone at that point. The time to replace them has passed. Coaching moves happened in the spring and early summer. Not a good love to go into the season down 2 coaches and having no one to run the RTC. Also look at the other RTC’s and tell me the SKWC stacks up. Shit Lehigh NYC Princeton and Penn blows ours away.
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Our club looks like JV compared to our competition. Where can we find someone to run it so late in the game?
 
kupuna133 said:
Has a chance to replace? Donnie left in June and Seabass and Buxton were all but gone at that point. The time to replace them has passed. Coaching moves happened in the spring and early summer. Not a good love to go into the season down 2 coaches and having no one to run the RTC. Also look at the other RTC’s and tell me the SKWC stacks up. Shit Lehigh NYC Princeton and Penn blows ours away.
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Coaching moves happen all the time, but I like I said, I'm giving Goody the benefit of the doubt to fill out the staff appropriately as needed. If he fails to do so and the program suffers then it won't be a surprise that finds himself on the hot seat and that people will be looking for a complete overhaul.
 
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Coaching moves happen all the time, but I like I said, I'm giving Goody the benefit of the doubt to fill out the staff appropriately as needed. If he fails to do so and the program suffers then it won't be a surprise that finds himself on the hot seat and that people will be looking for a complete overhaul.
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He’s had close to 4 months to fill the vacancies. This wasn’t a secret. He whiffed.
 
vinlibjr said:
The problem is the negative pundits have no idea how big this offer was. I can tell you he turned down a large bag of money from Rutgers.
That's his choice. Instead of taking the high road he says it was handled poorly. How about you just wanted to go with Donny and get more money. Maybe he really did not want to leave but greed had a play in it. If anyone handled this wrong it is him by saying what he said. Show some maturity. Take the high road.
Snyder was offered a great deal to be a coach in waiting. He and his family did not want to leave Nebraska. You can't compare Snyder and a guy that has never coached a day in his life.
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does it really matter if we whiffed though?

fair to say this is worst case scenario? There is simply no way to even remotely put a positive spin on how any of this transpired.
 
njsportsphan said:
Everyone is freaking out, but nobody knows what the future will bring. Anything can happen. Let's hold off on the current coach bashing. The season hasn't even started yet. While on the surface they're setbacks, who knows what's gonna happen as a result 5 years down the road. By them leaving, it's also opened the door for new possibilities. Plus, NYC sucks and the politics of Columbia is brutal so who knows how long they last over there.
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The trend hasn't been good. We lose Ashnault, we replace him with Pollard, we lose Pritzlaff we replace him with Labriola who has never coached before. Next up, who do we replace Riveria and Buxton with or basically the entire SKWC? Guys have not exactly been beating down Goodale's door. So, people are apprehensive by this trend.
 
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Donnie, Buxton, and Rivera all left because their current jobs are a step up from what they were here

Donnie wasn’t getting the head job while Goodale was here and there was no job for Buxton or Rivera to take. They aren't getting rid of Mytych and Labriola was hired because Goodale was proactive and rightfully couldn’t wait for Rivera to finish his Olympic run.

Losing all 3 of these guys sucks but they’re getting opportunities that we couldn’t offer.
 
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PessimisticallyHopefulPragmatist said:
Then what did Rivera turn down that was a lot of money?

Didn't offer, not couldn't. Still can recover from this, but won't do what's necessary.
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So Donnie took the job at Columbia 2 months ago which means that we probably knew over 2 months ago we’re losing all three of them. I like the hire of Labriola but we’re still missing three coaches if you include the SKWC. Maybe two if they coach at both places. It’s safe to say the plan or being proactive is not working. Maybe no AD is contributing to this mess.
 
brentx35 said:
So Donnie took the job at Columbia 2 months ago which means that we probably knew over 2 months ago we’re losing all three of them. I like the hire of Labriola but we’re still missing three coaches if you include the SKWC. Maybe two if they coach at both places. It’s safe to say the plan or being proactive is not working. Maybe no AD is contributing to this mess.
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What has been proactive? There is an acting AD; if he isn't managing the situation, he isn't acting very well. Hobbs wasn't going to do anything either; he was sniffing on a different mat.
 
wngarbarini said:
Seabass and Buxton did not decide to leave RU until a week or so ago. What would you people be saying if we started a coaching and RTC search while these two were deciding on whether to stay or go. You would be bitching about pushing them out!
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So Donnie’s interview in mid-late August mentioning Buxton and sea bass by name as joining his staff was incorrect or inuendo?
 
All is not lost. Donny, Jeff, and Sebastian were great leaders and our guys learned a lot from them. We have 4 All Americans and a bunch of national qualifiers returning. Our wrestlers gained a lot of knowledge from the guys that left and that knowledge will not be forgotten.

During Scott’s tenure there have been 15 All Americans and Donny coached 14 of them. Jeff is a Hall of Fame coached and is credited with advancing the skills of our returning wrestlers. Sebastian was the ideal role model for our athletes demonstrating how to train and maintain a never quit attitude that is required to be a champion. I am grateful for their commitment to Rutgers wrestling and thankful for how they contributed to the development of our team.

I believe that our wrestlers will build of what Donny, Jeff, and Sebastian show cased and have an outstanding season. Plus Peterson and Soldano have been close to reaching the podium. And we have an outstanding freshmen class and Oliveri and others coming off redshirt.

For the upcoming season the deck is stacked in our favor and I am optimistic that our team will shine.
 
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SKWC said:
All is not lost. Donny, Jeff, and Sebastian were great leaders and our guys learned a lot from them. We have 4 All Americans and a bunch of national qualifiers returning. Our wrestlers gained a lot of knowledge from the guys that left and that knowledge will not be forgotten.

During Scott’s tenure there have been 15 All Americans and Donny coached 14 of them. Jeff is a Hall of Fame coached and is credited with advancing the skills of our returning wrestlers. Sebastian was the ideal role model for our athletes demonstrating how to train and maintain a never quit attitude that is required to be a champion. I am grateful for their commitment to Rutgers wrestling and thankful for how they contributed to the development of our team.

I believe that our wrestlers will build of what Donny, Jeff, and Sebastian show cased and have an outstanding season. Plus Peterson and Soldano have been close to reaching the podium. And we have an outstanding freshmen class and Oliveri and others coming off redshirt.

For the upcoming season the deck is stacked in our favor and I am optimistic that our team will shine.
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Any chance any of the incoming freshman class decommits bc of coaching changes?? Hopefully not.
 
wngarbarini said:
Yes we had offers out to both individuals and waiting for them to decide if they were staying or joining Donny. I was at practice last week and Buxton was busy coaching our kids
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WNG, could you envision a scenario where Donny and Co. get a couple of years at Columbia, do some positive things for that program, and then come back home to RU when the timing is right? With Donny as the head guy of course.
 
SKWC said:
All is not lost. Donny, Jeff, and Sebastian were great leaders and our guys learned a lot from them. We have 4 All Americans and a bunch of national qualifiers returning. Our wrestlers gained a lot of knowledge from the guys that left and that knowledge will not be forgotten.

During Scott’s tenure there have been 15 All Americans and Donny coached 14 of them. Jeff is a Hall of Fame coached and is credited with advancing the skills of our returning wrestlers. Sebastian was the ideal role model for our athletes demonstrating how to train and maintain a never quit attitude that is required to be a champion. I am grateful for their commitment to Rutgers wrestling and thankful for how they contributed to the development of our team.

I believe that our wrestlers will build of what Donny, Jeff, and Sebastian show cased and have an outstanding season. Plus Peterson and Soldano have been close to reaching the podium. And we have an outstanding freshmen class and Oliveri and others coming off redshirt.

For the upcoming season the deck is stacked in our favor and I am optimistic that our team will shine.
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You summed up my concerns in your second paragraph. Not sure I would use that in Scott’s defense or an endorsement of where the program is currently.
 
Bobbynieds said:
I am upset with the losses.
I want to see
1) How do our wrestlers perform this year
2) What happens to SKWC? Does RU partner with NYAC?
3) What coaching changes are made in the off season.

I think it doesn't help to say the sky is falling (Every post) when there isn't anything that can realistically be done before the season. Labs could be an amazing coach. Mytich (spelling) seems to be a great recruiter.
The fact that Donny P. stayed this long is fairly amazing to me. He could have left for Maryland a few years ago and I am sure he had other offers,
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Agree as this is really the only direction forward other than complaining about what transpired. Regarding Donny leaving for Maryland I think its fairly safe to assume that he was given hints that he could be HC here if he stuck it out. When Colombia came around he wasn't going to make the same mistake twice and bolted. All of us would probably have done it. Would have liked to see Goody take on a different role created by the AD and allowed a new HC step in to take us from mid tier to competing for top 10 every year.
 
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PessimisticallyHopefulPragmatist said:
II'll ask a question with a different slant. How and to what degree does Bagakov contribute?
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The problem is the negative pundits have no idea how big this offer was. I can tell you he turned down a large bag of money from Rutgers.
That's his choice. Instead of taking the high road he says it was handled poorly. How about you just wanted to go with Donny and get more money. Maybe he really did not want to leave but greed had a play in it. If anyone handled this wrong it is him by saying what he said. Show some maturity. Take the high road.
Snyder was offered a great deal to be a coach in waiting. He and his family did not want to leave Nebraska. You can't compare Snyder and a guy that has never coached a day in his life.
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Looking at what Columbia pays Assistant Coaches, there must be reasons other than money why they left. The Ivy League pays their assistant coaches modest salaries. They ask the head coaches to raise funds from Alumni and other sources. Koll raised a bundle at Cornell. But it took him over a decade.

Other than money, assistant coaches leave jobs for opportunity, culture, respect, work environment, friendship, a new challenge, lack of trust, better management relationships, clearer vision, and the commute.

I don't know the reasons why Rivera and Buxton left. The Rutgers compensation is public information and our wrestling coaches compensation is in top ten in America. This is not the case at Columbia.
 
wngarbarini said:
Seabass and Buxton did not decide to leave RU until a week or so ago. What would you people be saying if we started a coaching and RTC search while these two were deciding on whether to stay or go. You would be bitching about pushing them out!
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So we gave them 2 months to decide and screwed the program while waiting for the inevitable. Great strategy.
 
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Looking at what Columbia pays Assistant Coaches, there must be reasons other than money why they left. The Ivy League pays their assistant coaches modest salaries. They ask the head coaches to raise funds from Alumni and other sources. Koll raised a bundle at Cornell. But it took him over a decade.

Other than money, assistant coaches leave jobs for opportunity, culture, respect, work environment, friendship, a new challenge, lack of trust, better management relationships, clearer vision, and the commute.

I don't know the reasons why Rivera and Buxton left. The Rutgers compensation is public information and our wrestling coaches compensation is in top ten in America. This is not the case at Columbia.
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They all got better jobs than what they would have here. Donny was not going to be the head coach, Buxton wasn’t going to be an assistant, and the program didn’t have time to wait and see what Rivera was going to do.

Some of you guys look way too deep into everything.
 
bluemountain1967 said:
Looking at what Columbia pays Assistant Coaches, there must be reasons other than money why they left. The Ivy League pays their assistant coaches modest salaries. They ask the head coaches to raise funds from Alumni and other sources. Koll raised a bundle at Cornell. But it took him over a decade.

Other than money, assistant coaches leave jobs for opportunity, culture, respect, work environment, friendship, a new challenge, lack of trust, better management relationships, clearer vision, and the commute.

I don't know the reasons why Rivera and Buxton left. The Rutgers compensation is public information and our wrestling coaches compensation is in top ten in America. This is not the case at Columbia.
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You Somehow left out the Housing situation that Columbia alumni have set up for their Coaches in one of the most expensive areas in the USA
 
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