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Question from an Iowa fan about Rutgers game day...

One thing to consider when deciding between staying in NYC versus the Jersey Shore is that we don't have a direct train to New Brunswick from the Shore towns. There is a direct train from New York City though.

You can take the train from the Shore, but it requires a transfer from one line to another.
 
Hawkbiz, not to get others mad here but with limited time blah blah blah

Not to get him mad or anything.. but.. ignore everything he said.

No college campus is New York City.

If you went to Asbury Park, you would be on the boardwalk block.. there is no need to go walk and see the "sketchy" areas. So that advice can be ignored. If you just want to see the ocean and take a dip.. anywhere south of Asbury is fine. If you want nice dining with an ocean view.. try something in Long Branch... which has the same advice as Asbury.. you'll be on the boardwalk so ignore all thoughts of sketchy areas. If you really just want a beach, and possibly a view of NYC.. try Sandy Hook.

As for not having a college feel.. there is nothing wrong with the college avenue campus where the train station is. You walk anywhere near that path I laid out and you will see an old eastern college campus. Its not Princeton.. which is nly 17 miles away.. but that is in a class by itself.. so much so highly regarded Chapel Hill was made to emulate the feel of Princeton.

In Rutgers you have a major state school that grew up around an existing commerce center.. a steamship line port for bringing coal to New York City via the Delaware and Raritan Canal. Cornelius Vanderbilt got his start running a hotel and steamship line here. In Princeton, and in most state schools, you have a town that grew up around a college.. to serve it.

We're urban, suburban and even "rural" in our different campuses all in and surrounding New Brunswick. It is hard to see it all and much of what you'd see is identical t every other college campus you have ever been on.. in one way or another. But Rutgers is set up to people to get what they want out of it. In my time I organized my schedule to have as many classes on the old College Ave campus as possible. I also took classes over at the womens college (wink-wink, nudge-nudge) and every campus in various years. But for me, I very much got that college town feeling. Since Rutgers went to war with the frats, I am not sure that is possible any longer.. but I loved it.
 
Hawkbiz, not to get others mad here but with limited time blah, blah blah.

Not to get him mad or anything.. but.. ignore everything he said.

No college campus is New York City.

If you went to Asbury Park, you would be on the boardwalk block.. there is no need to go walk and see the "sketchy" areas. So that advice can be ignored. If you just want to see the ocean and take a dip.. anywhere south of Asbury is fine. If you want nice dining with an ocean view.. try something in Long Branch... which has the same advice as Asbury.. you'll be on the boardwalk so ignore all thoughts of sketchy areas. If you really just want a beach, and possibly a view of NYC.. try Sandy Hook.

As for not having a college feel.. there is nothing wrong with the college avenue campus where the train station is. You walk anywhere near that path I laid out and you will see an old eastern college campus. Its not Princeton.. which is nly 17 miles away.. but that is in a class by itself.. so much so highly regarded Chapel Hill was made to emulate the feel of Princeton.

In Rutgers you have a major state school that grew up around an existing commerce center.. a steamship line port for bringing coal to New York City via the Delaware and Raritan Canal. Cornelius Vanderbilt got his start running a hotel and steamship line here. In Princeton, and in most state schools, you have a town that grew up around a college.. to serve it.

We're urban, suburban and even "rural" in our different campuses all in and surrounding New Brunswick. It is hard to see it all and much of what you'd see is identical t every other college campus you have ever been on.. in one way or another. But Rutgers is set up to people to get what they want out of it. In my time I organized my schedule to have as many classes on the old College Ave campus as possible. I also took classes over at the womens college (wink-wink, nudge-nudge) and every campus in various years. But for me, I very much got that college town feeling. Since Rutgers went to war with the frats, I am not sure that is possible any longer.. but I loved it.
Very good advice from @GoodOl'Rutgers , @Hawkbiz

(especially the BOLDED)
 
We hadn't really thought about the Jersey Shore but that sounds like a great idea. We were planning to spend Th-F in NYC, but the shore might be a better option.
If you want to stay about 40 mins away at the shore, look at Ocean Place resort in Pier Village in Long Branch. You will enjoy it as much as NYC as there is good dining options in Pier village and also Asbury Park which is only a few minutes away.
 
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We'll turn up your driveway, not knowing for sure why we're doing it.
We'll arrive at your door as innocent as children ... longing for the past.
"Of course, we won't mind if you look around", you'll say. "It's only $20 per person."
We'll pass over the money without even thinking about it.
For it is money we have and peace we lack.

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Not to get him mad or anything.. but.. ignore everything he said.

No college campus is New York City.

If you went to Asbury Park, you would be on the boardwalk block.. there is no need to go walk and see the "sketchy" areas. So that advice can be ignored. If you just want to see the ocean and take a dip.. anywhere south of Asbury is fine. If you want nice dining with an ocean view.. try something in Long Branch... which has the same advice as Asbury.. you'll be on the boardwalk so ignore all thoughts of sketchy areas. If you really just want a beach, and possibly a view of NYC.. try Sandy Hook.

As for not having a college feel.. there is nothing wrong with the college avenue campus where the train station is. You walk anywhere near that path I laid out and you will see an old eastern college campus. Its not Princeton.. which is nly 17 miles away.. but that is in a class by itself.. so much so highly regarded Chapel Hill was made to emulate the feel of Princeton.

In Rutgers you have a major state school that grew up around an existing commerce center.. a steamship line port for bringing coal to New York City via the Delaware and Raritan Canal. Cornelius Vanderbilt got his start running a hotel and steamship line here. In Princeton, and in most state schools, you have a town that grew up around a college.. to serve it.

We're urban, suburban and even "rural" in our different campuses all in and surrounding New Brunswick. It is hard to see it all and much of what you'd see is identical t every other college campus you have ever been on.. in one way or another. But Rutgers is set up to people to get what they want out of it. In my time I organized my schedule to have as many classes on the old College Ave campus as possible. I also took classes over at the womens college (wink-wink, nudge-nudge) and every campus in various years. But for me, I very much got that college town feeling. Since Rutgers went to war with the frats, I am not sure that is possible any longer.. but I loved it.
 
Good Ole Rutgers-thanks for the props on NJ. However, since Rutgers in a small city-and spread out over the Raritan,. I agree with my statement that a college tour should suffice for Hawkeye's limited time (best spent in NYC and the shore).

Chapel Hill? you're deaiing with the wrong person (haven't spent much time on Princeton's campus but the area beats New Brunswick). Spent 2 years after RU (and cafter vtheccampus and quality of live at RU at the point I couldn't get away from NB more quickly). In Chapel Hill the downtown and campus are as one-literally attached.. It's quite and totally a different experience.
At Rutgers (not saying parts of College Ave, Cook, Douglass. yada are nice) thec individual campuses aren't essential to the gameday experience. In Chapel Hill. the college campuS, and bars and restaurants are fully part of the pre and post game experience.

The question to ask is what few NJ/NY landmarks.experiences are most essential for both enjoying and sellng the area. For the most part a campus tour for one with limited time is fine if overkill

Asbury Park is fine but sans its musical history I see no reason to visit vs other beach destinations.
 
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"Hey Dad, wanna have a catch?"
My wife grew up on Lansing Road in Dyersville. On the same road as Field of Dreams.

And to contribute to this thread, as an Iowa girl, she prefers the Jersey Shore to NYC.
 
JMC, not surprising but I think the discussion here was what to recommend to a midWesterner with limited time. I'm "sure" if they loved the shore that much they wouldn't live in Iowa! If they've never seen the shore and chave been to NYC several tmes before the prior might be preferred.
 
If you can swing 3 days I would suggest 1 day in NYC, 1 day at beach nearby and of course 1 day tailgating and watching the game. If the weather is not great do 2 days in NYC. Philadelphia would not be too bad either for your son to get some of the early US history.

Your post makes me think we could be the best away game destination in the country. Nyc/Philly/jersey shore/Rutgers game. That's a really cool weekend
 
I'm really excited about this trip. I've never been to New York City but my wife has. I have never been east of Toledo Ohio except for 1 4 day trip to DC. Been all over the country and overseas a few times but for some reason it never made it to the Northeast. I've been doing a ton of research and can't wait

We're coming in late Thursday night and leaving on Monday night. We're staying in mid town east Manhattan and going to take the train down. Some great advice in here though. Definitely going to have to try one of the fat Darrell sandwiches.

I'm really curious to see how the tailgating compares to other big ten schools i have been to and obviously how it compares to Iowa.
 
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I'm really curious to see how the tailgating compares to other big ten schools i have been to and obviously how it compares to Iowa.

Good luck to you and yours and safe travels. What you might notice about Rutgers tailgating is that it might be very weather-dependent. This is a compact state with lots of people. I would guess most Rutgers fans come from within 50 miles. And while many will plan elaborate tailgates, they could easily adjust those plans if the weather does not cooperate. Its not like they will be coming in big RVs and plan to stay a couple days. If weather is suspect, you'll even find many looking to arrive late and NOT tailgate at all. But there will be those old pros that tailgate in all weather. Its just the volume of elaborate tailgates that might change.
 
Good luck to you and yours and safe travels. What you might notice about Rutgers tailgating is that it might be very weather-dependent. This is a compact state with lots of people. I would guess most Rutgers fans come from within 50 miles. And while many will plan elaborate tailgates, they could easily adjust those plans if the weather does not cooperate. Its not like they will be coming in big RVs and plan to stay a couple days. If weather is suspect, you'll even find many looking to arrive late and NOT tailgate at all. But there will be those old pros that tailgate in all weather. Its just the volume of elaborate tailgates that might change.

AGREED-should be ok in late September, but if it's a noon game that also hurts.
 
Getting closer....any insight into a game time being set?

Got our tickets, flights, hotels all lined up. Just trying to set our itinerary around game day.

With it being conference opening weekend, wondering if it will be a 330 game. Seems most likely which kind of sucks as it screws up my plans for the evening but will give more tailgaiting time I guess.

Any chance of being even later than 330?
 
It never ceases to amaze me how short sited some of us Rutgers fans are ...fans of visiting teams normally will want to see NYC...we are NYC 's team or so we have been told...most visitor fans are here for only 2-3 maybe 4 days max...so in order to see NYC...enjoy our game-day tailgating and the game itself is tough enough... so ,going down to the Jersey shore towns south of say Asbury Park- Long Branch- Sea Bright or Sandy Hook takes some doing...Those suggestions to drive to A.C.( which is a waste anyway)...it has only gone down hill and takes a full day of travel...better to drive to Pennsylvania across to the casino and gamble... only a couple of hours from campus...As intelligent as we perceive ourselves in New Jersey we have no sense for time restraints and distances between sites...it appears nobody calculates travel times very well... suggest as a first trip guy from Iowa they do NYC ...the Rutgers campus and game- day tailgate fun...if then there is sufficient time afterwards rent a vehicle for the day and drive no further than Asbury Park ...not my first choice...this is not Asbury Park from 30-40 years ago...
 
Hope you have a safe trip and a great time.

And you lose. :)
 
Getting closer....any insight into a game time being set?

Got our tickets, flights, hotels all lined up. Just trying to set our itinerary around game day.

With it being conference opening weekend, wondering if it will be a 330 game. Seems most likely which kind of sucks as it screws up my plans for the evening but will give more tailgaiting time I guess.

Any chance of being even later than 330?

IMO, almost guaranteed 1530 kick, but the TV people will decide where the ratings are that weekend. I'm hoping for 1530 because we already have 3 nooners and 2 primetimers on the schedule, but no teatimers.

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You lost me at "sited" in the first sentence.

* LOL
You are correct it is a typo ...stand corrected but the rest is factual ...I should have realized that's how petty some are and always will be...e5fdny...
 
It never ceases to amaze me how short sited some of us Rutgers fans are ...fans of visiting teams normally will want to see NYC...we are NYC 's team or so we have been told...most visitor fans are here for only 2-3 maybe 4 days max...so in order to see NYC...enjoy our game-day tailgating and the game itself is tough enough... so ,going down to the Jersey shore towns south of say Asbury Park- Long Branch- Sea Bright or Sandy Hook takes some doing...Those suggestions to drive to A.C.( which is a waste anyway)...it has only gone down hill and takes a full day of travel...better to drive to Pennsylvania across to the casino and gamble... only a couple of hours from campus...As intelligent as we perceive ourselves in New Jersey we have no sense for time restraints and distances between sites...it appears nobody calculates travel times very well... suggest as a first trip guy from Iowa they do NYC ...the Rutgers campus and game- day tailgate fun...if then there is sufficient time afterwards rent a vehicle for the day and drive no further than Asbury Park ...not my first choice...this is not Asbury Park from 30-40 years ago...

To me, the priority order for someone who's never been out this way should be: campus on day of game (tailgating, College Ave/Old Queens), then NYC as first non-campus destination... then Jersey Shore a distant second... unless there's something that really compels them in another direction (e.g. if someone's a huge Revolutionary War buff, there's tons to see in NJ).

With just a few days, NYC definitely tops the Jersey Shore for a first-timer (or, really, a second, third, or fourth timer) from far out of the area. If someone's been to NYC a bunch, though, the Shore might be a worthwhile experience for a day if the weather's good.
 
You are correct it is a typo ...stand corrected but the rest is factual ...I should have realized that's how petty some are and always will be...e5fdny...
Not really, just defending my fellow fans and Garden Staters.

When you start off by making fun at us with this....

It never ceases to amaze me how short sited some of us Rutgers fans are ...

And then follow up with...

As intelligent as we perceive ourselves in New Jersey we have no sense for time restraints and distances between sites...it appears nobody calculates travel times very well... suggest as a first trip guy from Iowa they do NYC...

While ending with a dig against a town that is really trying...

...and drive no further than Asbury Park ...not my first choice...this is not Asbury Park from 30-40 years ago...

And I'm the petty one? LOL
 
Here's a video summary of a Razorback fan's trip to NYC/Game a couple of years ago. They opted for NYC and the school had an alumni event in the City that weekend. You should check and see if Iowa is doing something similar.

 
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You said it buddy I didn't but even if you were good naturally kidding it is just dumb for any of us to critique some spelling and grammar errors which occur time to time...I am sure in your 19, 984 k prior posts you have slipped on a word or key ...as I approach 70 I realize those things can occur more frequently or even be done by auto correct... it's all good ....as for making fun???... never made fun in the post...
 
You said it buddy I didn't but even if you were good naturally kidding it is just dumb for any of us to critique some spelling and grammar errors which occur time to time...I am sure in your 19, 984 k prior posts you have slipped on a word or key ...as I approach 70 I realize those things can occur more frequently or even be done by auto correct... it's all good .
It really had nothing to do with the grammar or spelling.

It was the perceived (at least on my part) condescending tone of your post. If that was not the intent, my bad. Oops. My mistake.

Let hope the guy and his group have a great time but Iowa loses. Then you and I both win. LOL
 
Wife and I are coming in late Thursday night, staying in Manhattan, leaving Monday night. Will take the trains down Saturday and check out the campus and tailgating.

Outside of the game, will be mainly in Manhattan.
 
To my fellow Hawkeye brethren, as a native Iowan that now lives in the Chicago area but lived in Princeton from '98-'02 I can give you a couple tid- bits. First of all many great suggestions here and the best advice is to do Jersey on this trip! So much to do. FORGET NYC. The place is a dump. I'm sorry but its a toilet anymore and resembles a third world country more so that what you see in the movies or on GMA. If you must go stick w/ Soho or G. Villiage primarily for the food.
Jersey has so much to offer and the people of Jersey for the most part are wonderful, kind, and friendly. Throw all the stereotypes out the window. I made a lot of friends out there and I will be at the game myself.
Definately fly into Newark.
If you get a chance head to Princeton and grab a beer at Triumph Brewpub. The Bengal IPA is the best IPA ( cask ) i've ever had.


p.s. Has anybody heard of a possible kickoff time?
 
It really had nothing to do with the grammar or spelling.

It was the perceived (at least on my part) condescending tone of your post. If that was not the intent, my bad. Oops. My mistake.

Let hope the guy and his group have a great time but Iowa loses. Then you and I both win. LOL
Uh-oh, he's talkin' 'bout your grandma!
 
Good luck to you and yours and safe travels. What you might notice about Rutgers tailgating is that it might be very weather-dependent. This is a compact state with lots of people. I would guess most Rutgers fans come from within 50 miles. And while many will plan elaborate tailgates, they could easily adjust those plans if the weather does not cooperate. Its not like they will be coming in big RVs and plan to stay a couple days. If weather is suspect, you'll even find many looking to arrive late and NOT tailgate at all. But there will be those old pros that tailgate in all weather. Its just the volume of elaborate tailgates that might change.

Which paradoxically makes the 12:00 starts more difficult for most RU fans than our B1G brethren. RU fans are not arriving in droves the day or night before.
 
Just so everyone's aware of it, I've linked this thread and a couple of others to a new thread that I've stuck on top of the board. This way our visitors won't have to go searching for these older threads.

If there are other threads that should be in there, give me a head's up and I'll link them.
 
Jersey has so much to offer and the people of Jersey for the most part are wonderful, kind, and friendly. Throw all the stereotypes out the window. I made a lot of friends out there and I will be at the game myself.
Well that just means you'll need to swing by our tailgate in the Blue Lot!
p.s. Has anybody heard of a possible kickoff time?
Noon or 3:30 - the latter is more likely the better our records are.
 
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It really had nothing to do with the grammar or spelling.

It was the perceived (at least on my part) condescending tone of your post. If that was not the intent, my bad. Oops. My mistake.

Let hope the guy and his group have a great time but Iowa loses. Then you and I both win. LOL
You have a pretty weird sense of what constitutes "talking down " to someone is...especially with the moniker... e5fdny...but people hear what they want to hear.
 
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Hawks, forgot to mention that I concur w/ Stuff Your Face. It's a must. Get the meat stuffed stromboli!
 
Wow! How did I miss this when it was released? Well done.
I cannot believe this thread got necro'd after 3 years.

I was actually getting ready to tell someone that when I mentioned Chapel Hill it was in comparison to Princeton, which it was modeled after, not Rutgers... but 3 years old...

What I really wan tot know is if the Iowa fan had a good time and what they chose to do.

I remember the first time I went to Europe.. I avoided places like Paris and London because they were so big and would require a lot of time to do well... and I would favor visiting many places instead. I could always go back for short trips and do a city at a time (and I did, eventually).

And I have that same thought about NYC and Rutgers games. You know you are going to spend the better part of a whole day on the gameday. Do you really think you have enough time to do NYC justice? And do you really want to "commute" to a football game if its a trip revolving around the game?

Anyway, that's my opinion.
 
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