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Real Question About Offensive System/Players

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Watching the team this season, it is clear we don't have the players to run the true "power spread" offense, particularly at QB. As many have said, we are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

Knowing this, is there not way for Ash/Mehringer to adjust the offense somewhat to fit the players we currently have (i.e. possibly have some Pro concepts in the spread system since that is the system our current players have skill sets for)?

Then, once we have players to fit the power spread, we go full throttle with that system going forward.

I would think it would have been apparent throughout the spring and training camp that these players did not fit the system, but I'm not a coach here. Just an observation/thought/suggestion.
 
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Watching the team this season, it is clear we don't have the players to run the true "power spread" offense, particularly at QB. As many have said, we are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

Knowing this, is there not way for Ash/Mehringer to adjust the offense somewhat to fit the players we currently have (i.e. possibly have some Pro concepts in the spread system since that is the system our current players have skill sets for)?

Then, once we have players to fit the power spread, we go full throttle with that system going forward.

I would think it would have been apparent throughout the spring and training camp that these players did not fit the system, but I'm not a coach here. Just an observation/thought/suggestion.
Pro concepts are useless if the QB is an inaccurate passer and the OL is overmatched. We saw this last year. There is no schematic compensation for a lack of fundamentals.
 
Watching the team this season, it is clear we don't have the players to run the true "power spread" offense, particularly at QB. As many have said, we are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

Knowing this, is there not way for Ash/Mehringer to adjust the offense somewhat to fit the players we currently have (i.e. possibly have some Pro concepts in the spread system since that is the system our current players have skill sets for)?

Then, once we have players to fit the power spread, we go full throttle with that system going forward.

I would think it would have been apparent throughout the spring and training camp that these players did not fit the system, but I'm not a coach here. Just an observation/thought/suggestion.
I think the coaches recognized this was going to be a challenging year from the outset and by sticking to the system regardless of the current players, you are building it for the future for guys like TO to study the system and get the reps so that when they take over it clicks.
 
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Pro concepts are useless if the QB is an inaccurate passer and the OL is overmatched. We saw this last year. There is no schematic compensation for a lack of fundamentals.

i think we have fundamentals. we just lack talent. Just have to replenish it and coach it up. We need the Micah Clarks to stay home.
 
Watching the team this season, it is clear we don't have the players to run the true "power spread" offense, particularly at QB. As many have said, we are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

Knowing this, is there not way for Ash/Mehringer to adjust the offense somewhat to fit the players we currently have (i.e. possibly have some Pro concepts in the spread system since that is the system our current players have skill sets for)?

Then, once we have players to fit the power spread, we go full throttle with that system going forward.

I would think it would have been apparent throughout the spring and training camp that these players did not fit the system, but I'm not a coach here. Just an observation/thought/suggestion.

Yes this a sign of a great coach who molds the game plan around the talent you have; not squeeze talent into your game plan. that said you have a really young OC who is going squeeze everyone into his vision. DM seems to be saying screw this year we are building for the future. this is his vision and he is running the O the way he wants to see it run. Look at our recruiting class 8 WRs and/or ATHs we will be throwing a lot more next year. as DM said about the osu game we had 5 dropped passes that is not acceptable
And yes CL looks awkward running the spread, but he is the best we have today. this is a crap shoot season we will get what we can get, a win here or there but the power spread will get ironed out for next year.
not happy but that is life they CA & DM are running the show it's their call
I am more upset with the D play calling
 
Watching the team this season, it is clear we don't have the players to run the true "power spread" offense, particularly at QB. As many have said, we are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

Knowing this, is there not way for Ash/Mehringer to adjust the offense somewhat to fit the players we currently have (i.e. possibly have some Pro concepts in the spread system since that is the system our current players have skill sets for)?

Then, once we have players to fit the power spread, we go full throttle with that system going forward.

I would think it would have been apparent throughout the spring and training camp that these players did not fit the system, but I'm not a coach here. Just an observation/thought/suggestion.

Regardless of the style, you need to give the QB time, he has to make a good throws, and the WR has to get open and catch the ball. Those issues would not be fixed staying in the pro style.

Clearly, they have modified the play calling with limited zone reads with CL.
 
Yes this a sign of a great coach who molds the game plan around the talent you have; not squeeze talent into your game plan. that said you have a really young OC who is going squeeze everyone into his vision. DM seems to be saying screw this year we are building for the future. this is his vision and he is running the O the way he wants to see it run. Look at our recruiting class 8 WRs and/or ATHs we will be throwing a lot more next year. as DM said about the osu game we had 5 dropped passes that is not acceptable
And yes CL looks awkward running the spread, but he is the best we have today. this is a crap shoot season we will get what we can get, a win here or there but the power spread will get ironed out for next year.
not happy but that is life they CA & DM are running the show it's their call
I am more upset with the D play calling

They have molded the game plan to fit the players.

It is really not a throwing offense, both OSU and Houston were around 60/40 run/pass last year.
 
They have molded the game plan to fit the players.

It is really not a throwing offense, both OSU and Houston were around 60/40 run/pass last year.
True, but Houston and Ohio State had QBs that were excellent runners. Ohio State got out of their offensive slump when they went to Barrett full time. The linchpin of this offense is the QB's ability to run. Without that dimension, the math in the running game won't work. This is why RU isn't going to be able to run the ball consistently against anyone.
 
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I think the coaches recognized this was going to be a challenging year from the outset and by sticking to the system regardless of the current players, you are building it for the future for guys like TO to study the system and get the reps so that when they take over it clicks.
Let's hope that's the case or we're in more trouble than we thought. CA
keeps saying we have to get better so it's not a system issue. But how many things can you fix at once ? Hopefully, something will click and the games will be interesting again.
 
I think the coaches recognized this was going to be a challenging year from the outset and by sticking to the system regardless of the current players, you are building it for the future for guys like TO to study the system and get the reps so that when they take over it clicks.
Oh man, would love it if this did NOT become his nickname.
 
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