Realistic possibility we land zero NJ top 10 recruits

[Butters96]

As the recruiting year drags on it is become clearer that we may not land any players in the NJ top 10. Of the players that are left Ahmir Mitchell is pretty much gone, Brad Hawkins too (both likely will go to Michigan). I highly doubt we land Fuller. Our best bet is Ron Johnson and Jovani Haskins and I think the chances for Johnson are rather slim too. If we land none in the year that is supposed to be Flood's breakout year can we all conclude that Flood simply can't get it done.

And now I wait for those that will defend Flood by saying rankings don't matter and will not hold Flood to standards.

 

[jay_hq]

Flood has already got it done on the field. 8-5 first year in the big ten.

Its a slow process.

 

[vkj91]

As the recruiting year drags on it is become clearer that we may not land any players in the NJ top 10. Of the players that are left Ahmir Mitchell is pretty much gone, Brad Hawkins too (both likely will go to Michigan). I highly doubt we land Fuller. Our best bet is Ron Johnson and Jovani Haskins and I think the chances for Johnson are rather slim too. If we land none in the year that is supposed to be Flood's breakout year can we all conclude that Flood simply can't get it done.

And now I wait for those that will defend Flood by saying rankings don't matter and will not hold Flood to standards.

Yes we could land 0 of top 10. However, how many of our out state recruits would be NJ top 10 if they lived here? Are you concerned with NJ or results? Or is it your agenda? Oh, and it's June.......

 

[Butters96]

We will simply not get the results if we can't keep the best kids from our state home because face it if we can't get blue chippers here to stay they certainly aren't coming from other states. Look at our record was it really that good. A few close games and our record is trash and that is with a much weaker Michigan and Maryland. They will soon become much better and so will PSU. We are falling in the back of the pack and the fact that many of you can't see it is insanity.

 

[Knight Shift]

 

[CNJKnight]

The year we got Jeremy Deering we had none of the Top 10 in NJ I believe. But the out of state haul was good. Kids from NJ are more worldly than other states. They don't want to stay here-let them go. If we can pick off some of the top kids in NY, DE, FL and PA mixed in with NJ who do want to come here, that works for me. You think Michigan State was getting the top kids in Michigan over UM, OSU and ND? No-but those kids were coached up to the max. 2 and 3 star kids. Now they are successful and the 4 stars want to come there. And that's something we need to do before the top kids come to us. Our diamonds in the rough are pretty good as well. You don't think if they re-ranked Turay's class he wouldn't be in the top 5? Russo is a TWO STAR on this site and he's going to the Elite 11 FINALS!!!! Stars mean nothing.....deal with it. These coaches have an eye for talent. They need to do a better job of coaching the kids up. Get off your soapbox and trust the coaches with who they land. The top kids are always going to want to leave because they grew up watching the SEC and BIG TEN on ABC/CBS/ESPN all these years why we were relegated to SNY and CBS Sportsnet. If you want to be angry at anyone, blame the politicians of the state and the alumni with the lack of funding.

 

[WhiteBus]

Flood has already got it done on the field. 8-5 first year in the big ten.

Its a slow process.

Please stop. He didn't go 8-5 in the Big Ten. He went 3-5 in the Big Ten.

 

[RUblackshirt2006]

you really need to play some meaningful games later in the season to get those top 25 classes, for the most part. We've done well and we had some good atmospheres, but havent had important games yet. Schianos recrutiing really took off following that Lousiville game. Flood just needs that.

Overall, I think recruiting has been good. I like some of our recent d-line recruits, i think we did very well with Dbs last class and LB this class. I'm a fan of these new Wrs and Russo.The only area thats concerning me a bit is the OL.

 

[Butters96]

I hope after this season those that have been ridiculing me will finally say wow I hate to admit it but Butters was right

 

[vkj91]

We will simply not get the results if we can't keep the best kids from our state home because face it if we can't get blue chippers here to stay they certainly aren't coming from other states. Look at our record was it really that good. A few close games and our record is trash and that is with a much weaker Michigan and Maryland. They will soon become much better and so will PSU. We are falling in the back of the pack and the fact that many of you can't see it is insanity.

And we will simply only win 3 games with Flood......oh, we won 8
floods classes will set us back 10 years....not so much.....
We took a QB with only one other offer........oh, elite 11
Turay never played football....
Cole is so fat.......
Should I continue?

 

[Knight Shift]

 

[Arizona Knight]

As the recruiting year drags on it is become clearer that we may not land any players in the NJ top 10. Of the players that are left Ahmir Mitchell is pretty much gone, Brad Hawkins too (both likely will go to Michigan). I highly doubt we land Fuller. Our best bet is Ron Johnson and Jovani Haskins and I think the chances for Johnson are rather slim too. If we land none in the year that is supposed to be Flood's breakout year can we all conclude that Flood simply can't get it done.

And now I wait for those that will defend Flood by saying rankings don't matter and will not hold Flood to standards.

Cool post 24 hours after learning our Top 20 National QB out of PA is heading to the Elite 11 Finals.

 

[Caliknight]

I hope after this season those that have been ridiculing me will finally say wow I hate to admit it but Butters was right

So is your suggestion that Rutgers should fire Flood after going 8-5 in his first season in the B1G? What if he goes 8-5 this season? What is your suggestion?

 

[CNJKnight]

I hope after this season those that have been ridiculing me will finally say wow I hate to admit it but Butters was right

You will never get that satisfaction from this board because no one will agree with you. I hear PSU has some openings on their band wagon-you should check them out. Seem right up your alley.

 

[Butters96]

3-5 in the Big 10
and Flood will set us back years. Wait for schiano's classes to leave at the end of this year and next and then tell me how great we are doing.

 

[Butters96]

You will never get that satisfaction from this board because no one will agree with you. I hear PSU has some openings on their band wagon-you should check them out. Seem right up your alley.

When Flood is out of a job you people will still not agree.

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

 

[vkj91]

Please stop. He didn't go 8-5 in the Big Ten. He went 3-5 in the Big Ten.

Did anybody go 8-5 in the B1G? Didn't think so. How many B1G teams won every out of conference P5 game? How many B1G teams played our conference plus Wisconsin and Nebraska? If I told you we would go 8-5 in August you would have mocked me and captain twitter would have gone ballistic. Why can't people just admit Flood over performed last season?

 

[CNJKnight]

You're probably the same guy that was happy Schiano left because you thought he was a bad game day coach and he could do nothing with his recruits because he couldn't coach. The cupboard isn't bare after the class leaves. Have you seen the RB depth? OL Depth? DE depth?

 

[Butters96]

Did anybody go 8-5 in the B1G? Didn't think so. How many B1G teams won every out of conference P5 game? How many B1G teams played our conference plus Wisconsin and Nebraska? If I told you we would go 8-5 in August you would have mocked me and captain twitter would have gone ballistic. Why can't people just admit Flood over performed last season?

Flood did over perform I can admit it. I actually had him at 7 wins but based on normal expectations yeah he did. The point is how long can one really over perform when you are outmatched on so many levels?

 

[vkj91]

When Flood is out of a job you people will still not agree.

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

Nobody here thinks Flood is Nick Saban. Nobody here will cry If he is replaced because he doesn't perform. At what point will you think he is doing a solid job? I'm not asking a hypothetical, tell me what he needs to do...

 

[Butters96]

when we are playing competitive matches against the best teams in the division (not being completely outmatched) and landing recruiting classes in the top 25 or 30.

 

[vkj91]

Ica

Flood did over perform I can admit it. I actually had him at 7 wins but based on normal expectations yeah he did. The point is how long can one really over perform when you are outmatched on so many levels?

l call absolute BS you predicted 7 wins.....zero chance

 

[jay_hq]

This thread is becoming less and less about Flood/Rutgers and more about some weirdo Butters guy pretending to be Nostradamus.

Non stop "I WILL BE RIGHT YOULL SEE" posts.

By the way that Einstein quote has 0 relevance with this discussion.

 

[Butters96]

I'm sorry but I personally really don't like it when I see Franklin from PSU working his tail off day and night to get the best players on his team and I see Flood go on PR tours seemingly constantly for charity. Your job is to make the team perform and make them competitive and I just don't see him do that.

 

[Butters96]

Ica

l call absolute BS you predicted 7 wins.....zero chance

Swear. Can't prove it obv but I won 20 bucks from my friend who thought we wouldn't even win 4

 

[Knight Shift]

 

[vkj91]

3-5 in the Big 10
and Flood will set us back years. Wait for schiano's classes to leave at the end of this year and next and then tell me how great we are doing.

His first three years in the B1G Mark Dantonio was 13-11. Is it safe to assume he was handed a better deck than Flood? Were his crossover games Nebraska and Wisconsin?

 

[CNJKnight]

I'm sorry but I personally really don't like it when I see Franklin from PSU working his tail off day and night to get the best players on his team and I see Flood go on PR tours seemingly constantly for charity. Your job is to make the team perform and make them competitive and I just don't see him do that.

That's easy-Franklin hates his family and wants to see all of his asst. coaches' hot wives. He's not working any harder than Flood is. He's just more of an attention whore.

 

[vkj91]

Swear. Can't prove it obv but I won 20 bucks from my friend who thought we wouldn't even win 4

Pretty sure this new board allows a longer search.......let me guess, you never posted?

 

[Knight Shift]

is it possible that Butters 96 is indeed Butters Stotch? The ominous parallels. . . . . . .

 

[vkj91]

Pretty sure this new board allows a longer search.......let me guess, you never posted?

Oh, that's right you renamed yourself in Feb after out bowl. Who were you prior?:popcorn:​

 

[Raritan83]

I really don't care who this site or any other site lists as top 10. Flood will bring in the best players that he can and they will go compete. If they are doing it to par he will be gone.

In the meantime though I will enjoy the ride and support the players and coaches rather than wasting time and energy worrying about random lists.

Oh and I think it is a little unrealistic to after 1 year expect us to competitive against the national champs and a team that won the rose bowl a year ago. Last year we were competitive against psu, best Michigan,Indiana and Maryland plus a pac12 team. We were where we should have been.

 

[mikemarc1]

I'm sorry but I personally really don't like it when I see Franklin from PSU working his tail off day and night to get the best players on his team and I see Flood go on PR tours seemingly constantly for charity. Your job is to make the team perform and make them competitive and I just don't see him do that.

I can guarantee you Flood works as hard as Franklin. He has too. You admit Rutgers is "outmatched on the field"....well we are also much more "outmatched" when it comes off the field too. Its much harder for Flood to recruit against the Michigans, Ohio States, Penn States, etc.

And you say no blue chips from out of state will come to Rutgers if we can't keep the instate blue chippers here..well, that's wrong, as Rutgers has a Blue-Chip QB coming next year from PA (an Elite-11 finalist).

 

[Butters96]

Pretty sure this new board allows a longer search.......let me guess, you never posted?

No because I only got involved with rivals after during this year like in March.

 

[Butters96]

I can guarantee you Flood works as hard as Franklin. He has too. You admit Rutgers is "outmatched on the field"....well we are also much more "outmatched" when it comes off the field too. Its much harder for Flood to recruit against the Michigans, Ohio States, Penn States, etc.

And you say no blue chips from out of state will come to Rutgers if we can't keep the instate blue chippers here..well, that's wrong, as Rutgers has a Blue-Chip QB coming next year from PA (an Elite-11 finalist).

I don't care if he's a finalist or not. He is still a two star recruit will no other D1 offers but Temple. To say he is a blue chipper is laughable.

 

[WhiteBus]

Did anybody go 8-5 in the B1G? Didn't think so. How many B1G teams won every out of conference P5 game? How many B1G teams played our conference plus Wisconsin and Nebraska? If I told you we would go 8-5 in August you would have mocked me and captain twitter would have gone ballistic. Why can't people just admit Flood over performed last season?

Yes only Ohio State went 8-0 in the Big Ten last year but for crying out loud Rutgers DIDN'T go 8-5 IN THE BIG TEN last year as many of these idiots keep posting. They went 3-5 ...end of story. Should have beat Penn State to go 4-4 but horrible 4th Quarter coaching failed in that game. Jeeze Rutgers RU had a good year but not even close to a great year.

 

[vkj91]

I'm sorry but I personally really don't like it when I see Franklin from PSU working his tail off day and night to get the best players on his team and I see Flood go on PR tours seemingly constantly for charity. Your job is to make the team perform and make them competitive and I just don't see him do that.

Done after this post. Franklin does the same dumb tour. Only difference is PSU bus hauls a trailer with a PAC man game, A creepy old man, and a 409 stamp. Once the stamp is placed whether it be a postcard, bumper sticker, or some kids ass it's all good.

 

[Raritan83]

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I'm sorry but I personally really don't like it when I see Franklin from PSU working his tail off day and night to get the best players on his team and I see Flood go on PR tours seemingly constantly for charity. Your job is to make the team perform and make them competitive and I just don't see him do that.

You mean at charity things like the one Jim Harbaugh was also at? Tell me while flood was doing PR (aka attending the walk of one of our/his former players who is paralyzed) what was Franklin doing at that time?

 

[Butters96]

Yes only Ohio State went 8-0 in the Big Ten last year but for crying out loud Rutgers DIDN'T go 8-5 IN THE BIG TEN last year as many of these idiots keep posting. They went 3-5 ...end of story. Should have beat Penn State to go 4-4 but horrible 4th Quarter coaching failed in that game. Jeeze Rutgers RU had a good year but not even close to a great year.

Thank you at least there is some source of reason on this board albeit few and far between.

 

[Butters96]

Done after this post. Franklin does the same dumb tour. Only difference is PSU bus hauls a trailer with a PAC man game, A creepy old man, and a 409 stamp. Once the stamp is placed whether it be a postcard, bumper sticker, or some kids ass it's all good.

Whatever he does I don't care he recruits well very well and that was even when the team was under sanctions.