Not laughable. One of the top 11 QBs in the country, as he proved on the field. Don't just look at rankings and stars...just a tip.
Realistic possibility we land zero NJ top 10 recruits
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Not laughable. One of the top 11 QBs in the country, as he proved on the field. Don't just look at rankings and stars...just a tip.
Who said they had a great year? Failed coaching? Thought a knock on our staff is we don't play the ball. DB goes for the pick and boom......ok we beat PSU and then lose to some SEC bowl team. Still 8-5, you happier?
This was and always has been my first profile. You will never believe me no matter what I say.
Oh yes!!! That was THE game RU needed to win. ..and should have won but the coaching staff blew it. Beating PSU and Michigan would have been huge
If he was truly one of the "top 11" Qbs in the country he would easily be a 4 star recruit at least ...he's not even close
I think you should take the suggestion of one of the posters above and become a TTFP fan. Heck you have almost as many posts in this thread as before it.
Without being -5 in turnovers Flood beats Franklin's ass last year.
Again, please stop mentioning stars. They don't mean anything. The best defensive player in the NFL was a 2-star as well.
But yet the best teams consistently have the best and highest ranked recruiting classes. Coincidence? Also Lawrence Taylor (who I assume you are talking about) played before star rankings were even around so even though he was not highly recruited you can't just say he was a two star recruit.
I'd argue its because they're good, they get the highest ranked players. It's not because they get the highest ranked players that they're good...just my opinion.
And no, I was talking about best current player - JJ Watt. Just a 2-star out of Wisconsin with no big schools offering.
Stars and rankings are much more than just talent. Don't think Russo attended many camps..thus wasn't highly ranked or scouted. On the big stage, with recruiting services watching him at the Elite 11 - he received rave reviews. That helps, and if you care about rankings and stars..he'll probably get a bump up after his showing.
The posters decrying the star ranking system are the same ones that are pumped about some arbitrary elite 11 ranking system. Stars don't matter... unless my guy has the stars. Hilarious.
Please don't make assumptions. I could care less about an "arbitrary" ranking system. But when recruiting analysts 247, scout, rivals, and ESPN are pretty much in agreement that Russo was one of the best QBs at the Elite 11 last weekend..that's what I care about.
And yet you keep posting while people continue to disagree. o_O
It wasn't just them. Professional QB's like Trent Dilfer were involved.
There is no better way to compare a player than to see him up live and personal next to other kids. That is why the Elite 11 rankings are far, far more valuable than some website ranking.
Alot of you guys say Flood over performed last season, the fact is Flood under performed his first two seasons. Especially when he went 6-7 in a very weak AAC. Thats the reason expectations were so low last season and that's the reason there is a perception he overachieved. If beating Indiana, Maryland, and Michigan, losing a game that we clearly should've won against PSU and getting the snot kicked out of us in the rest of our conference games is over performing then I hate to see what it looks like when he simply performs to his level. IMO, that could get ugly.
If you think getting 0 top 10 NJ recruits is ok (especially since this was supposed to be THE year), then you have settled for mediocrity or less. We are in the B1G now, and it is not ok that we can't recruit in our own backyard. This is a major part of Flood's job, and he is not getting it done. I personally think last year was an outlier with Flood at 8-5, but we'll see. This is not acceptable for where this football program should be recruiting wise today.
Wrong.
Wrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrong.
It is NOT Flood's job to successfully recruit the top players in NJ.
It is Flood's job to recruit players who he and his staff can coach into a winning team. That's the goal, that's the metric. This nonsense about how we can't be considered a success unless and until we land the top players in-state is nothing other than a sad strawman offered by people who are inherently, fundamentally dissatisfied.
Top-ranked NJ players by and large feel that they're entitled to go to marquis programs. The mere fact of RU's admission into the B1G does not make us a marquis program. It will take a few years to gain that traction, much as it took us a few years to become associated with the core programs in the Big East.
Anyone who genuinely believes that we should be pulling top 10 players just because we're in the B1G is straight. up. stupid.
1. You are right--the defenders are perfectly happy and OK with 0 of the top 10 NJ recruits. The defenders crave and want a team full of two star recruits.
2. The defenders love mediocrity--you are correct. 4 and 5 star recruits are prima donnas, drama queens and hard to coach. It's much easier to coach a team full of under appreciated players.
3. It's a B1G world and country, but we should drop recruiting other states where we pull in our best recruits and keep focusing on kids who want to leave the state.
4. 8-5 was an outlier. You want it to be that because you think Flood is a bad coach. I bet you are disappointed that we weren't 3-9 or 2-10.
5. I love posts like this. We don't see enough of them. Keep up the good work.
Well that's not really true. The national recruiting analyst for 247 said Russo wasn't all that good until the 7 vs. 7's where he redeemed himself.
In the end, all football HCs are judged on results in football games...no matter what all the correct college rhetoric implies. Flood will be judged on how the team does on the field. For people who say that the guy can't get it done and should be gone based purely on recruiting rankings or outside perception are pretty lame imo. RU is not going to be in a position to seriously challenge for the B1G football championship anytime in the near future. That has to do with many reasons beyond Flood. It's a process and we will see if the current HC will be able to improve it over time.
1. Correct
2. Correct
3. Never said we should drop recruiting other states - but winning at home is a must and a no brainer, especially since we have nobody to recruit against to keep recruits home (ex. Florida, Alabama, etc.)
4. I am still not sold on Flood - don't think he was ever qualified to coach this team. I think Fridge had a lot to do with the success last year, but we will see. Last year was not an amazing year - the only true surprise was Maryland. That team played to its potential for the most part, but we will see moving forward - remember we had a 4 year starter in Nova last year. We will see.
5. Right back at 'ya
So recruiting this year is all three stars with Russo as a two who is clearly a three + so last year we had a boatload of 2 stars at this time. So if you like to live and die by stars the recruiting is substantially better YOY at this point. I always thought W&L's an overall record and competitiveness were the measuring stick.
I don't think that players should come here just because we are in the B1G, but it certainly is a big selling point. It should be much easier to recruit today then it was 5 years ago. You are absolutely right about the winning part, and I hope I'm wrong but recruiting has not been up to where Schiano was in the end. We will see in the next couple of years what will happen.
So you've played the game for RU yet don't have the ability to comprehend that turnovers and inconsistent play mostly by Nova were the primary reason that game was lost.
It's convenient now that you blame it on poor coaching because Butters96 ( aka Tony Soprano or some other regenerated troll) is forwarding a regurgitated agenda.
Flood is an OK (ok to good) coach....but to constantly bash him without taking a stand regarding solutions seems odd. It's easy to criticize and call out someone as poor or incapable. It's not so easy to take a stand and say he should be fired and replaced by another middling coach at 1.5 mil. Many of us just want some breathing room from all the complaints.
I read this thread from top to bottom and each post was more cringe worthy than the next.
You are stating the obvious. Now come up with the solution to the problem that you have pointed out.
Butters is a troll. Always negative, trying to bring everyone down, especially after positive news such as Elite 11 and commitments.
Your logic on this point clearly shows that you are a real idiot.
A kid has proven that he is one of the top18 QBs, better than the PSU 4* commit Zembeic and yet that is not good enough for you.
What a fool.
As of right now - zero.
Heres reality
Floods first three classes were bad by P5 standards. Lots of two stars. Lots of guys with few or no other P5 offers.
This class is better. No two stars (Ill assume that Russo is severely underrated).
But this is a DIVISION that is going to have 4 top 25 classes. We'll see about MD.
What are the national ranking for the 14 teams in the Big Ten as of today?
Rutgers is ranked 43 nationally by Scout, 39th by 247 & 37 by Rivals with 8 commits
Rutgers is ranked 43 nationally by Scout, 39th by 247 & 37 by Rivals with 8 commits
For those who aren't worried... Doesn't it worry you a bit that the high school kids do seem to "follow the leaders"? If we don't have any Top 10 players or even Top 20 players from NJ, it makes it easier for those players to go elsewhere. Landing a top 5 guy makes other guys pay attention and think maybe Rutgers.
Flood did a good job overall with the first Big Ten season. I wish we had a better game plan against the big boys to keep the score a bit closer, but 8 wins (and should have had 9) has to be considered a good first season in the conference despite the blow outs.
I just wish there were more NJ kids who WANTED to be the face of the program. I really thought the Big Ten would help sell itself. Apparently, the kids either need us to repeat the 8 win mark several times before they get interested or to actually have a stellar year and challenge for the division title. We can find great athletes elsewhere, but there is something to be said for the hometown kids wanted to succeed in their home state. We should be able to build that fence and it will help us down the road.
Flood did a good job overall with the first Big Ten season. I wish we had a better game plan against the big boys to keep the score a bit closer, but 8 wins (and should have had 9) has to be considered a good first season in the conference despite the blow outs.
I just wish there were more NJ kids who WANTED to be the face of the program. I really thought the Big Ten would help sell itself. Apparently, the kids either need us to repeat the 8 win mark several times before they get interested or to actually have a stellar year and challenge for the division title. We can find great athletes elsewhere, but there is something to be said for the hometown kids wanted to succeed in their home state. We should be able to build that fence and it will help us down the road.
Man the Flood kool aid drinkers are so defensive. Man you guys love to attack must be very insecure
Had to stop reading after that idiotic comment. That is close to one of the dumbest comments I have ever read. You should be in time out
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