Divisions are dissolving once USC/UCLA enter the B1G. There will be one or 2 protected rivalries and the rest of the schedule will rotate.
Reasonable Expectations
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Devil’s advocate
The whole idea is to exceed expectations
Michigan state did it last year and were the darlings of the media
I would hope that we have such a year
If we just live up to expectations year after year we remain pretty miserable
If he is a Cuse fan I hope he is enjoying their losing streak
It’s the number of blowout losses, revolving QB door and lack of discipline (penalties) that bother many fans.
It’s one thing to go 4-8 with competitive efforts during conference play and another to suffer 5 blowout losses including some to average teams.
I'm with you on the blowout losses and penalties.
The revolving QB door was really nobody's doing because of injuries, but the counterpoint to that point is they could have just gone with Gavin from day 1 and MAYBE he would not have been hurt in the Temple game, but the counterpoint to that counterpoint was our OL performed poorly that game, and more reps may have led to his injury anyway, if that makes any sense-turkey hangover post.
BTW, I count 4 blowout losses, as the Iowa loss was not really a blowout, but opinions vary on these things.
To some, a win against Maryland may be a season salve, or perhaps it may trigger more anger and frustration and debate.
I need to go vomit.
Let’s revisit this after the Maryland game tomorrow. If we are competitive I will revise the number of blowout losses to 4.
My prediction notwithstanding, think that tomorrow will be a blowout. One never knows, however, but their keeping the Michigan and Ohio State games close seems problematic for RU.
This is constantly the lamest excuse and the answer is because we’ve done nothing prior to this season to earn a respectable prediction and we’ve done nothing this season to earn any better of a prediction for next season.
Just because we were picked to do bad. Doesn’t mean people should just accept the outcome of this season. Which has essentially left us with zero hope or expectation that next season could be any better.
Should be the end of thread right there--we suck, we expect to continue to suck, and when we meet expectations, where is the upside?
Yes. As simple as that.
We will highly likely continue to suck until we develop an average or above average player in the QB position. Plain and simple.
If we can’t win 6 or more games most years (say on average 4 out of 5 years), we need to leave this conference.
Why is Indiana still here? We can probably content in the AAC. Budget and support is more inline with peers. Might even hold an edge to the peers for once.
Maybe you are just a hollow shell of a human being at this point, but I, sir, am a glass house of emotion!
This isn’t about Indiana. I am just talking rutgers . Haven’t seen anything that shows me we belong in this league in 9 seasons. Maybe one day.
best was 3-5 in year 1.
That’s really sacrificing all other sports for football. The money will impact all sports and bring them on par or even ahead of most. Football will always fall behind because of “additional funds” coming from donors.
Not sure what good it does every Saturday getting our brains beaten in . If that’s the case , would like to see us move down in competition
After you hit the mega million tonight, you can hire a big time coach to turn it around.
I would keep schiano and give him a chance . I would buy players. I think this program needs a Nevin Shapiro type and plum would deliver
$$$$ buys you options. Don’t forget to buy your ticket.
This team isn't making progress on the field or off the field. AS the OP stated conference wins have moved in the wrong direction and we lack skill players on offense. Recruiting for 2023 is moving in the wrong direction too.
Throw whatever excuses you want up, but look at a team like Illinois. They have no financial or recruiting advantage yet emerged from the Lovie Smith wilderness with the right coach who's got them going in the right direction.
Schiano is firing staff and losing to other doormats; while the blowouts continue.
I fear that we are going to be stuck in mediocrity and irrelevance for the foreseeable future.
Throw whatever excuses you want up, but look at a team like Illinois. They have no financial or recruiting advantage yet emerged from the Lovie Smith wilderness with the right coach who's got them going in the right direction.
Schiano is firing staff and losing to other doormats; while the blowouts continue.
I fear that we are going to be stuck in mediocrity and irrelevance for the foreseeable future.
That Iowa final score was deceptive and did not show how close that game should have been
That is sort of my though about that, but maybe that is a shoulda, coulda woulda blowout loss? here should be a blowout loss rule that you only get one shoulda, coulda woulda bllowout loss per season? 😁
Who are we losing to that are doormats? GS already beat Illinois last year. You don’t understand math if you think Illinois doesn’t have a financial advantage.
Ummm. Have you seen Nebraska’s performance in B1G games this year ?
Michigan St. is not exactly a good program…. A game that could have been won with better in game coaching.
Illinois like RU trying to build NIL funds through grassroots efforts. The Illinois Guardians group starting off like us…. let’s see where it goes for the non-blue bloods B1G programs.
I wonder whether perhaps the addition of USC and UCLA will lead to the continuation of divisions in order to minimize the number of times their teams have to travel three time zones for games. It seems to me that the vote to abandon divisions came before USC and UCLA joined, and so perhaps the decision will be reconsidered.
Doesn’t mean the usual suspects need to bitch about it either. Repeatedly. You also don’t need to cherry pick other teams because for every team that exceeded there has to be a team that fell short of their expectations. I’m happy for Kansas. When was the last time they were even decent?9
Yeahhhh. I must not. Rutgers spent $118M on athletics in 2021. Illinois spent $102M on athletics in 2021. Show me the financial advantage of Illinois. Go ahead. Use facts.
The athletics division’s $53.2 million share of Big Ten Conference revenue in 2021-22 — much of it from television — was whittled down by more than $10 million to repay two loans from the conference, leaving Rutgers with yet another sizable budget gap.
you are welcome.
I did not start this thread to be negative but just to get an idea of what a reasonable expectation for football would be going forward. I am not a Schiano fan but from his track record I do not think it is impossible for him to get to a consistent 6-6 and 7-5 record, with occasionally a better/worse year. I do not think he is the person to lead us to challenge the top teams. I am not sure that RU and its fans have the will or resources to do that anyway. All the other teams currently in the BIG, except for us and Maryland have had BIG revenues for many years that enabled them to build facilities for football as well as other sports. We have started well behind them, and will need to devote a great deal of resources to football to move to a point to challenge the upper level teams. I do not think it is worth it if it comes at the expense of other sports. We are finally providing facilities and quality coaches and staff and we are seeing successes. Personally I am good with a 7-5 or 6-6 annual football record on average if our other sports produce championships. Honestly, I think many of the other members of the BIG have followed this strategy.
I see the need for NIL contributions but they should not be exclusively for the football program, I think it needs to be spread equitably among the sports.
I see the need for NIL contributions but they should not be exclusively for the football program, I think it needs to be spread equitably among the sports.
You are wrong.
Again, we spend more than Illinois. Also, Illinois has the second largest athletic department accumulated debt in the nation ($325M), which they have to service.
So their loans are waaay bigger than ours and we spend more money than they do.
So you are wrong. You don't understand the facts on the ground, or math, if you think Illinois has a large financial advantage.
At least admit it, or educate yourself.
SMH, the 10mm loan repayment is part of that spending. Just use your common sense. Which coach gets pay more? Why is Illinois accumulating more debt than us if they spend less and gets more money than us? All of this adds up to you?
Illinois
2019 - 120.17mm
2020 - 121.64mm
2021 - 102.0mm
RU
2019 - 103.0mm
2020 - 102.8mm
2021 - 118.0mm
facts. another great fan
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