BB Recruiting Reiber / Palmquist officially signed
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Pikiell really has to stop with the whole "He is a great kid and comes from a great family" I am not trying to be a jerk but you didn't recruit the kid because of his mom, dad and siblings. Also, if one of these kids parents walked out on them as a young kid, does he really come from that "great of a family".
This is nothing against a particular player but stop saying the same comment about every kid
This is nothing against a particular player but stop saying the same comment about every kid
Welcome Dean and Oskar. Looking forward to having 2 more shooters that can stretch the floor.
Pretty close but one top recruit with the other scholarship could move us up quite a bit.
I am glad they both are part of our future. Baker was # 414 and he has turned out just fine. I believe in Pike.
Baker is an adequate B1G two, at best, on a team pegged at 12th in the B1G. He’s an inadequate one. And he’s a junior who was outplayed by younger guys from Bryant and St Bonnies. Was hoping that he would take a big step up in the OOC this season with a couple other guys available to run the offense. But no. More than half his shots from the 3, where he’s at 25%. And for a guy with a lot of touches, he’s only been to the line for seven (!) foul shots in four games. Don’t you expect more than this from a two-year starter and alleged leader —
Bryant 3-11 0-5 for 3s
Niagara 8-11 3-5
Drexel 5-12 1-5
St Bonnie 4-11 3-10
You want to get above .500 in Year 5? The two new kids don’t appear to be much of a talent upgrade. Neither will help inside. Face it, the staff has whiffed on all of their Plan A and B kids ... so far. It is what it is, no smiley faces required.
Baker was honorable mention all big ten as a sophomore.
78, You are way off base. Baker is a leader and he is 7-25 after 4 games on threes which is 28 %. It is early. His shooting over the two full seasons are both well over 25 %. At least don't fabricate the stats. He was honorable mention BIG 10 last year and was one of the top assist leaders in the BIG last year.
How do you know that neither of our our two new signees will not help on the inside. Are you an expert? We don't need guys like you criticizing our players before they have ever played a game for RU.
How do you know that neither of our our two new signees will not help on the inside. Are you an expert? We don't need guys like you criticizing our players before they have ever played a game for RU.
Unfortunately for fans, it is OK to be critical of coaches who dont have Top 150 recruits make up every open scholarship available. There's no program outside of Duke, Kentucky UNC that recruits at 4 and 5 star levels exclusively.
But we have a no star or unranked player with no major offers in 2016, with no shooting touch and limited skill sets but had raw potential, play for 2 years off the bench, to develop into a potential starter.....but if the staff finds a player or two in 2020, who by most definitions are already with better shooting touch out of HS and likely help the bench become more productive, suddenly it's "not good".
I thought bac said 4 years ago, the program was at ground zero and it would take 3 seasons to cycle through the junior and senior heavy roster Jordan left behind. It doesn't take 8 years to rebuild a program, but it also doesn't mean everyone recruited has to be an immediate starter.
Which is it??.....am I feeling very comfortable that there's enough talent vs the rest of the B1G.....No, not at all.....at the same time, if Eugene can become a contributor in the Top 8 of a rotation, I'm fairly confident that by Year 2, both Palmquist and Reiber will be as well.
Do we need more top flight/can't miss players...?? Yeah, but so does everyone else. There are only so many 1 or 2 and dones in College basketball.
We need to recruit to get us to the middle of the BIG to get on the bubble for the dance. We are forecasted for 12th so we need a breakthrough in recruiting to get to that level. Recruiting to maintain the status quo in the 10-14 range wont cut it. I love our coach and it may be tough getting top kids to RU but it’s the only way we can take that major step. 2029 class and the APC arrival was to significantly enhance our chances of finding All BIG Ten players.
The 2017 class has 2 bigs, one starter who redshirted and another who redshirted last year. We have a 3 year starter for Years 3, 4 and 5 in Myles Johnson. He had very limited offers from major programs. I'm not saying Myles is a great player, but solid with upside.
The 2018 class.wasnt 12th...it held 2 Top 150 kids, plus a 3rd kid starting in McConnell.....
The 2019 class has a Top 150 kid and a Top 150 transfer in the class in Jacob Young.
The question is whether the 2020 class should immediately have kids capable of starting immediately over the kids in 2018.....if the answer or thought process is YES, that would be fine. There's also "over recruiting or overlap", where you only have 5 players on the court at a time.
The fans asked for players with shooting touch, we were the worst shooting team 2 years ago in the B1G, with 4 players under 24% from 3 point range. We have improved the shooting touch with recruits who can catch the ball and have capability to shoot from 10 to 15+ feet.
There were definitely higher ranked recruiting targets that fit this bill, but I like the tape on Palmquist and think Reiber is a good role player, as a pick and Pop big man....these are pieces almost every other B1G program has on their roster.........RU did not have that versatility and filled that hole, to matchup down the road.
We have 2 recruiting spots left for a potential transfer in, or a mobile Power 4 who can run or be a shot blocker or whatever other gaps are on the roster.
I've made this point before but all we read for a year and a half on this board was how important the 2020 class was because we'd have the practice facility and because we finished the 2019 class early so the staff would have such a big head start on 2020.
Now all we're reading is excuses for a 2020 class rated 12th in the conference... in fact make it 14th if you go by average star rating. The only teams behind us are Maryland and Nebraska, and both of them have a 4* (according to at least one service) committed. Us and Iowa are the only teams without a 4*, and we just lost out on a recruit to Iowa.
The only reason Maryland is rated so low is because they only have one scholarship to fill, which they did with a borderline top-150 guy. And Nebraska has a composite 4* guy plus Fred Hoiberg doesn't even build his teams through high school recruiting. It's a near-certainty he'll land an impact transfer in the spring.
If we're able to land Omoruyi then the calculus changes but if that doesn't happen then this class will need to overperform expectations to be considered a success, and it's generally not a good idea to bank on overperformance without a really good reason.
Now all we're reading is excuses for a 2020 class rated 12th in the conference... in fact make it 14th if you go by average star rating. The only teams behind us are Maryland and Nebraska, and both of them have a 4* (according to at least one service) committed. Us and Iowa are the only teams without a 4*, and we just lost out on a recruit to Iowa.
The only reason Maryland is rated so low is because they only have one scholarship to fill, which they did with a borderline top-150 guy. And Nebraska has a composite 4* guy plus Fred Hoiberg doesn't even build his teams through high school recruiting. It's a near-certainty he'll land an impact transfer in the spring.
If we're able to land Omoruyi then the calculus changes but if that doesn't happen then this class will need to overperform expectations to be considered a success, and it's generally not a good idea to bank on overperformance without a really good reason.
First, by Rutgers standards, Baker is a star, the only one on the roster. But go look at the all-B1G and you will find that among the 25 kids named to the 1st, 2nd and 3rd teams and honorable mention, there was at least one player from each of the 14 teams. Gee, what a coincidence, huh? Was Baker the best player on RU last season? Absolutely. Was he one of the top 25 players in the B1G? Debatable. True, Baker was 5th in the league in assists ... 4.1 a game. Sorry, but 4.1 is not impressive.
As far as the two signees, it appears that the optimists believe they might be contributors in Years 7 or 8 of the Pikiell era. Tough to build a winning B1G program out of role players and projects. Pikiell has done a great job in getting the program out of the embarrassing category. With his work ethic and integrity, he deserves to be successful in the B1G. I'd define success as being in the 5th to 8th range in the B1G in Year 5.
And what were we last season? 14-17...this year 17-14...going to need to recruit a higher level to get to 21-10 to dance. Everyone said 2020 class was important and suddenly spin. We need a power forward in the worst way and not just a role player
This team doesn't need a 4 or 5 star recruit that can't shoot....that's all we EVER get with high rated recruits.
What we need is the stretch 4 we have been talking about for years. 6'8''+ guy that is nimble to guard a wINSTON on the perimeter and is a big time threat from 3.
What we need is the stretch 4 we have been talking about for years. 6'8''+ guy that is nimble to guard a wINSTON on the perimeter and is a big time threat from 3.
I have. Can shoot and "shooter" are two different things. About 10% of his mixtape highlights shows him taking a shot outside 15 ft.
We need this but I’ll take anyone who can shoot provided they are B1G level (i.e., no more Justin Goodes)
My God. We are the worst overall major athletic program in the country for hoops and football. We have all waited and watched in horror for a long time. We will watch a bit longer. At least in hoops we have a glimmer of hope to be at least decent. Stop your God damned whining. Go talk to a jet fan. Or a net fan. Or a knick fan. They all suffer. We all do. Go RU.
I am a Rutgers fan, a Knicks fan, a Jets fan, and a Mets fan. shoot me.
Highlights from Reiber's first game.
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The Giants have two recent Super Bowl wins and the Devils have won three cups in the last 25 years. Not really in the same ballpark as far as lifetime misery goes.
Well see how Reiber develops over the season. Some parts were positive, others were rough. Foot speed, intensity seemed low. Moving on to Palmquist , I like him as a shooter and wing.
Is Palmquist even playing HS or post grad ball this year? Couldn't find anything on him.
and not good defense in a few clips
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