RU vs PSU my take

[grapknight1]

Jersey Devil did an excellent recap. I watched the match on DVR just to get a better understanding. Here is my notes. I am not going to go through every match.

Kudos to the RU Wrestling nation and NJ wrestling fans to sell out the RAC and support RU Wrestling.

Lewis needs to find a way to score TDS. He is wrestling very well. I thought the headgear call against Joseph was very borderline. In that the head gear was already loose and Joseph went for a tie and it looked like he could of grabbed the head gear. Lewis gotta make it up against Imar. Plus Marinlli McFadden Chance Walsh Massa you gotta score on your feet to beat them. I am not giving up on Lewis yet.

Suriano solid enough said.

Class act to all the fans to stand and give an applause to Nolf. No one wants to see that happen. Kudos to JVB not wrestling scared and made it a match.

149. I know it is a physical sport and maybe DeLuca wanted to take it to Zain to take him out if his game. But I think DeLuca went over the top. He is a talented kid but needs to wrestle much smarter.

184. I thought the last call was correct. I loved Gravinia’s intensity in the match.

Delvecchio needs to keep the consistency he should in the match going forward.

I guess Mulligan quit the team. A shame. It’s a parents worst fear. You never know when they say it’s enough.

Why no Gross

Grello showed signs that he is going to develop into a great wrestler. Just went against a stud.

All the wrestlers came out strong but our upper weights not good enough.

RU wrestling is definitely showing great improvements. Losing AP and not having AA makes a huge impact on our program. These two set the tone which the rest of the team feed off of. I am hoping NS fills that gap. He a very special wrestler.

The question who is going to be the next Theobold.

I don’t believe in moral victories. But I see more positives then negatives.

Just my opinion for what it is worth.

All we can do is keep on supporting the program.

As far as AAs. Well NS yes.I will wait to see the BIG results before I make any predictions.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

I was there, live, and have not watched the replay. Curious as to what you feel the difference between the TD and non-TD callsat 184 was. I have my suspicions, but want to hear a take unaffected by another opinion.

 

[grapknight1]

I was there, live, and have not watched the replay. Curious as to what you feel the difference between the TD and non-TD callsat 184 was. I have my suspicions, but want to hear a take unaffected by another opinion.

If Bo’s leg was under Gravina it’s a TD. It was over Gravinia’s Head. So I am not a referee. But I been involved for this sport for 15 years. Because of the position of Bo’s leg I don’t think Gravinia had control.

 

[RU Diesel07110]

Didn't have control

 

[PhilaPhans]

Gross has wrestled too many matches so far.

 

[wngarbarini]

Gravina should have either had 2 takedowns or none. Same position on both calls by ref.

 

[grapknight1]

Gravina should have either had 2 takedowns or none. Same position on both calls by ref.

Agree Bill. The calls actually through out the whole dual were inconsistent.

 

[bigmatt718]

Wonder if we scour the transfer wire for a 197 in the off-season. Don't want Lightner to be fed to the wolves as a true freshman. Didn't someone here say Pagano bulked up? Maybe he can hit the weights and move up to 197 as a senior.

 

[brentx35]

Wonder if we scour the transfer wire for a 197 in the off-season. Don't want Lightner to be fed to the wolves as a true freshman. Didn't someone here say Pagano bulked up? Maybe he can hit the weights and move up to 197 as a senior.

Agreed. Maybe Gravina to 197 and Pagano to 184 next season.

 

[ScarletGrapfan]

Gravina should have either had 2 takedowns or none. Same position on both calls by ref.

Not true, they were not the same position. First takedown Gravina's leg was under Nickal, the second situation Nickal had gravinas leg over his head.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

Not true, they were not the same position. First takedown Gravina's leg was under Nickal, the second situation Nickal had gravinas leg over his head.

That's exactly what I thought. I wasn't paying close enough attention on the first one, but on the second one, as long as Gravinas leg didn't pop up over Nickal''s head, it's not 2.

The thing that baffles me is why the ref took so long to call the first one. I didn't see anything change when it was live.

 

[ScarletGrapfan]

That's exactly what I thought. I want paying close enough attention on the first one, but on the second one, as long as Gravinas leg didn't pop up over Nickal''s head, it's not 2.

The thing that baffles me is why the ref took so long to call the first one. I didn't see anything change when it was live.

PA, I am pretty sure the reason it took so long was Gravina needed to get of his hip. Gravina had the back leg hooked but as soon as Gravina got off his hip, the ref called two.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

PA, I am pretty sure the reason it took so long was Gravina needed to get of his hip. Gravina had the back leg hooked but as soon as Gravina got off his hip, the ref called two.

That makes sense. Thanks.

 

[IsItLuck]

Wonder if we scour the transfer wire for a 197 in the off-season. Don't want Lightner to be fed to the wolves as a true freshman. Didn't someone here say Pagano bulked up? Maybe he can hit the weights and move up to 197 as a senior.

Who knows if RU is actively recruiting Tyree Sutton out of Iowa Central. Keansburg state champ. Beat Correnti in the state final. @wngarbarini any insight?

 

[belushijo]

Who knows if RU is actively recruiting Tyree Sutton out of Iowa Central. Keansburg state champ. Beat Correnti in the state final. @wngarbarini any insight?

Sutton also just smashed the former #1 JUCO guy. He's looking solid out there in Iowa.

 

[wngarbarini]

I would think we have to resolve Mulligan’s status first before determining recruiting priorities.

 

[rufeelinit]

I would think we have to resolve Mulligan’s status first before determining recruiting priorities.

Any insight you can share on his status? Is it safe to say he is contemplating giving up the sport? Certainly would understand if you cannot share anything. Sounds like this happened once earlier that I was not aware of. Tough sport if not totally committed. Sutton would seem to be an excellent alternative if we need a replacement. Win win since his path to a position would seem relatively clear.

 

[IroniaHorse]

Who knows if RU is actively recruiting Tyree Sutton out of Iowa Central. Keansburg state champ. Beat Correnti in the state final. @wngarbarini any insight?

Not sure if RU is on him(you would hope so...), but ill betcha The Hawks are

 

[belushijo]

Not sure if RU is on him(you would hope so...), but ill betcha The Hawks are

Not that I would know, but I wouldn't be so sure on that front....Iowa has Wilcke who is only a Soph (#8 according to FLO) and beat Sutton in the beginning of the season 10-4.

 

[Kenwood1]

That's exactly what I thought. I wasn't paying close enough attention on the first one, but on the second one, as long as Gravinas leg didn't pop up over Nickal''s head, it's not 2.

The thing that baffles me is why the ref took so long to call the first one. I didn't see anything change when it was live.

True ...that ref was really bad

 

[Kenwood1]

I would think we have to resolve Mulligan’s status first before determining recruiting priorities.

What’s to resolve ..he quit again .....

 

[IroniaHorse]

Not that I would know, but I wouldn't be so sure on that front....Iowa has Wilcke who is only a Soph (#8 according to FLO) and beat Sutton in the beginning of the season 10-4.

Sutton is at least 2 yrs away(if at all) from wrestling,1 more yr of Juco(18-19),rs yr(19-20) putting him on the mat in the 20-21 season. Wilke be gone by then. All speculation of course, BUT the kid is the real deal, will only get better, Some of the most crazy natural balance and strength you'll ever see. Hope he finds his way to D1...

 

[belushijo]

Sutton is at least 2 yrs away(if at all) from wrestling,1 more yr of Juco(18-19),rs yr(19-20) putting him on the mat in the 20-21 season. Wilke be gone by then. All speculation of course, BUT the kid is the real deal, will only get better, Some of the most crazy natural balance and strength you'll ever see. Hope he finds his way to D1...

Good points.

 

[rufeelinit]

Sutton is at least 2 yrs away(if at all) from wrestling,1 more yr of Juco(18-19),rs yr(19-20) putting him on the mat in the 20-21 season. Wilke be gone by then. All speculation of course, BUT the kid is the real deal, will only get better, Some of the most crazy natural balance and strength you'll ever see. Hope he finds his way to D1...

I thought he was a possibility for next year. Our need is more immediate unless Nick is moving up.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

Sutton is at least 2 yrs away(if at all) from wrestling,1 more yr of Juco(18-19),rs yr(19-20) putting him on the mat in the 20-21 season. Wilke be gone by then. All speculation of course, BUT the kid is the real deal, will only get better, Some of the most crazy natural balance and strength you'll ever see. Hope he finds his way to D1...

Why would he need to RS 19-20?

If he can make it to D1, he can come with 3 to wrestle 2.

 

[RU93]

Why would he need to RS 19-20?

If he can make it to D1, he can come with 3 to wrestle 2.

Is Sutton the wrestler who wanted to come to RU but didn't have the grades out of highschool? I remember reading about someone couple years back, who won the state championship... Hope we sign him up!

 

[c_husk]

What’s to resolve ..he quit again .....

When was the first time?

 

[koleszar]

Is Sutton the wrestler who wanted to come to RU but didn't have the grades out of highschool? I remember reading about someone couple years back, who won the state championship... Hope we sign him up!

Yes that's the kid. He did hold Rutgers in very high regard coming out of high school. He didn't qualify and needed to go JUCO route. The original plan was for him to go to Nassau CC wrestle one, sit one and have 3 yrs. left. Not sure how he wound up at Iowa Central CC. He was training here a lot. He also has a son, so coming back to NJ would seem to be high on his list. I'd say if the money's there he'll come.

 

[IroniaHorse]

Why would he need to RS 19-20?

If he can make it to D1, he can come with 3 to wrestle 2.

he might need the time for academics/AA degree? the question was 'why would he go to Iowa with Wilke there already,this would be 1 way to do it and not have overlap w/Wilke...thats all

 

[RU93]

Yes that's the kid. He did hold Rutgers in very high regard coming out of high school. He didn't qualify and needed to go JUCO route. The original plan was for him to go to Nassau CC wrestle one, sit one and have 3 yrs. left. Not sure how he wound up at Iowa Central CC. He was training here a lot. He also has a son, so coming back to NJ would seem to be high on his list. I'd say if the money's there he'll come.

I'm sure Mulligan came to RU with money, and with him quitting the team, the money should be available (at least in state money) to Sutton, who is also instater. Hope we get him here.

 

[obrats]

Sutton is at least 2 yrs away(if at all) from wrestling,1 more yr of Juco(18-19),rs yr(19-20) putting him on the mat in the 20-21 season. Wilke be gone by then. All speculation of course, BUT the kid is the real deal, will only get better, Some of the most crazy natural balance and strength you'll ever see. Hope he finds his way to D1...

Yeah but they also have Warner redshirting this year and will most likely take over 197 next year with Wilcke dropping to 184.

 

[koleszar]

Sutton is at least 2 yrs away(if at all) from wrestling,1 more yr of Juco(18-19),rs yr(19-20) putting him on the mat in the 20-21 season. Wilke be gone by then. All speculation of course, BUT the kid is the real deal, will only get better, Some of the most crazy natural balance and strength you'll ever see. Hope he finds his way to D1...

Tyree Sutton graduated a year before Correnti. Did he sit out a year before attending Iowa Central? Did he also stick to his original plan of sitting out a year of wrestling while attending Community College than wrestle a year and have 3 yrs. left when he attends a Div. 1 school?

I tried looking up the details, but to no success. A redshirt would be unnecessary at this point and for all we know he could be eligible next year.

 

[ScarletGrapfan]

Tyree Sutton graduated a year before Correnti. Did he sit out a year before attending Iowa Central? Did he also stick to his original plan of sitting out a year of wrestling while attending Community College than wrestle a year and have 3 yrs. left when he attends a Div. 1 school?

I tried looking up the details, but to no success. A redshirt would be unnecessary at this point and for all we know he could be eligible next year.

Koleszar, as far as I could tell, he did sit out a year of school before attending Iowa Central. So he will need to be at Iowa Central another year. If he is on track to to qualify for D-1, he could redshirt next season at Iowa Central and then have 3 years left. But I am almost certain that he will have to be at Junior college next season, so it will not help 197 next year.

 

[koleszar]

Koleszar, as far as I could tell, he did sit out a year of school before attending Iowa Central. So he will need to be at Iowa Central another year. If he is on track to to qualify for D-1, he could redshirt next season at Iowa Central and then have 3 years left. But I am almost certain that he will have to be at Junior college next season, so it will not help 197 next year.

He graduate a year before Correnti, when he beat him in the 2014-15 state finals. So if he sat out just one year this would be his second year at Community College. Are you sure this is his 1st year there? Because if not then he had to sit out two years before entering college or start school somewhere else 1st.

I'm not trying to bust your balls, just trying to figure out if we do in fact have a legitimate option with this kid for next year(if he gets his Associate's degre of course) if Mulligan doesn't work out. All my research has come to a dead end. Friggin Iowa Central doesn't list eligibility and couldn't find any articles on him for the years 2015-16, 2016-17.

 

[RU93]

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe he sat out 2 years? Or maybe he went to another juco before iowa central?

Sutton's better than Mulligan, and he enjoys wrestling more than him, so it'd be good if we can get him to RU.

 

[obrats]

I believe he sat out 2 years.

 

[IroniaHorse]

I believe he sat out 2 years.

alot of things have to happen to get him to any D1 program RU included. This is his 1st yr of college.Might take 5 semesters to get an AA degree(not uncommon)