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Rutgers at Cal Poly

Gross losing like this is a bit disappointing.... Was hoping he could be an X factor before the season began.
 
Correnti won 8-7 despite over 2 minutes of riding time against him. He was up 8-4 at one point and struggled in the third period.
 
I got distracted w neighbors stopping in my yard while I was doing leaves in the morning. They just left at 5pm after a case of beer and small bottle of Krupnik, Lithuanian liquor.

I guess I missed all the afternoon action, lol. I tried following on my phone, but I was getting up for refills every 5 minutes. They brought their huge dogs to boot. Poop patrol.

Looking forward to the Princeton and Cornell matches big time !
 
125
Sean McCabe (Rutgers) over Isaac Blackburn (Cal Poly) (MD 10-1)
133
Tyson Dippery (Rutgers) over Yoshi Funakoshi (Cal Poly) (TF 16-0 2:33)
141
Anthony Ashnault (Rutgers) over Connor Pollock (Cal Poly) (Fall 6:16)
149
Kenny Theobald (Rutgers) over Joshua Cortez (Cal Poly) (Fall 6:42)
157
John Van Brill (Rutgers) over Colt Shorts (Cal Poly) (Dec 7-2)
165
Willy Scott (Rutgers) over Blake Kastl (Cal Poly) (MD 11-3)
174
Phil Bakuckas (Rutgers) over Mathew Wilhelm (Cal Poly) (Dec 7-3)
184
Nicholas Gravina (Rutgers) over Thomas Lane (Cal Poly) (MD 8-0)
197
Matt Correnti (Rutgers) over JT Goodwin (Cal Poly) (Dec 8-7)
285
Spencer Empey (Cal Poly) over Razohnn Gross (Rutgers) (MD 8-0)

Team Score: RU 38 - CPY 4
 
125
Sean McCabe (Rutgers) over Isaac Blackburn (Cal Poly) (MD 10-1)
133
Tyson Dippery (Rutgers) over Yoshi Funakoshi (Cal Poly) (TF 16-0 2:33)
141
Anthony Ashnault (Rutgers) over Connor Pollock (Cal Poly) (Fall 6:16)
149
Kenny Theobald (Rutgers) over Joshua Cortez (Cal Poly) (Fall 6:42)
157
John Van Brill (Rutgers) over Colt Shorts (Cal Poly) (Dec 7-2)
165
Willy Scott (Rutgers) over Blake Kastl (Cal Poly) (MD 11-3)
174
Phil Bakuckas (Rutgers) over Mathew Wilhelm (Cal Poly) (Dec 7-3)
184
Nicholas Gravina (Rutgers) over Thomas Lane (Cal Poly) (MD 8-0)
197
Matt Correnti (Rutgers) over JT Goodwin (Cal Poly) (Dec 8-7)
285
Spencer Empey (Cal Poly) over Razohnn Gross (Rutgers) (MD 8-0)

Team Score: RU 38 - CPY 4

I really like what this Rutgers team has at

133 Dippery
141 Ashnault
149 Theobold
157 Lewis
174 Bakuckas
184 Gravina

Hopefully, that will be enough to beat Princeton on
Saturday morning at 11am.

The future also looks bright at

125 Paetzell
165 Donner, Grello, Scott or Van Brill
197 Mulligan

285 could be a weakness for a while.
 
Disappointing? Really? Just what were u expecting? Gross hasn't wrestled in 4 years...And he hasn't been a HWT either...
He just got majored by UR cal poly wrestler... so we're going to be weaker at hwt then I originally thought thats all. Gross did beat out Normandia and Mcdonald for the starter spot so is it wrong to be hopeful he may turn out to be a unexpected surprise?
 
And up at Penn St true freshman , NJ's 4x state champ Nick Suriano, beat 4th ranked Conner Schram of Stanford , 3-0.

I can see his career being similiars to Anthony Ashnaults.
 
He just got majored by UR cal poly wrestler... so we're going to be weaker at hwt then I originally thought thats all. Gross did beat out Normandia and Mcdonald for the starter spot so is it wrong to be hopeful he may turn out to be a unexpected surprise?

The wrestling season is 9 days old....let's let the kid wrestle some more matches before calling him "disappointing" ....
 
And up at Penn St true freshman , NJ's 4x state champ Nick Suriano, beat 4th ranked Conner Schram of Stanford , 3-0.

I can see his career being similiars to Anthony Ashnaults.

Down the road, I could see Paetzell and Suriano in some great matches at 125.
 
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The wrestling season is 9 days old....let's let the kid wrestle some more matches before calling him "disappointing" ....
Your making it sound like I called him a disappointment when I said was disappointed in the way he lost. Theres a big difference.
 
And up at Penn St true freshman , NJ's 4x state champ Nick Suriano, beat 4th ranked Conner Schram of Stanford , 3-0.

I can see his career being similiars to Anthony Ashnaults.

got that text earlier today.. Suriano is for sure on another level. A top 3 finish this year isn't out of question . We cant stress enough how important it is to have elite guys scattered throughout your weights - it can really raise the level for the weights above and below that wrestler.

We are slowly building that depth and injecting our lineup with kickass guys. Great to see.
 
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I shouldn't admit this, but I can't get Creedo's dancing Panda comment out of my head.
Thats because it's the truth.Lets' be frank here..huh? Most of the guys that get their coolyans in a bunch,are the wannabe's who are involved in this program,some of the staff that are dillusional,and RU fans who either never wrestled,and if they did,they are living vicariously through these kids.Truth be told,Correnti looks defeated out there and I will put money on it he won't last.I saw the same"put his head down when he talks,unsure of himself" demeanor that Camp had.Believe me,I don't want this kid too quit or leave.I was comparing him too a better version of DJ Russo.The kid is either sucking weight,or content with that state title.I know that feeling all too well.Gross is lucky if he goes 500 this year.He looks like he is swimming through a restaurant to get too the all you can eat buffet at Golden Coral.All he is doing is pushing and pulling and not attacking.I'm sick of the "he's rusty" comments.the kid is 20 years old.He is in the prime of his life and has been doing this drill for his whole athletic career.He should be attacking and be in shape.Stop making excuses! Excuses are like a-holes..everyones got one.
 
got that text earlier today.. Suriano is for sure on another level. A top 3 finish this year isn't out of question . We cant stress enough how important it is to have elite guys scattered throughout your weights - it can really raise the level for the weights above and below that wrestler.

We are slowly building that depth and injecting our lineup with kickass guys. Great to see.

Yes. And Stephan Glasgow will eventually be joining the fold.
 
Thats because it's the truth.Lets' be frank here..huh? Most of the guys that get their coolyans in a bunch,are the wannabe's who are involved in this program,some of the staff that are dillusional,and RU fans who either never wrestled,and if they did,they are living vicariously through these kids.Truth be told,Correnti looks defeated out there and I will put money on it he won't last.I saw the same"put his head down when he talks,unsure of himself" demeanor that Camp had.Believe me,I don't want this kid too quit or leave.I was comparing him too a better version of DJ Russo.The kid is either sucking weight,or content with that state title.I know that feeling all too well.Gross is lucky if he goes 500 this year.He looks like he is swimming through a restaurant to get too the all you can eat buffet at Golden Coral.All he is doing is pushing and pulling and not attacking.I'm sick of the "he's rusty" comments.the kid is 20 years old.He is in the prime of his life and has been doing this drill for his whole athletic career.He should be attacking and be in shape.Stop making excuses! Excuses are like a-holes..everyones got one.

Since there is no 220lb weight class in D1 college wrestling,
Campo and Correnti both had two choices:

Bulk Up to wrestle 285 and get their butts kicked
or
Drop Weight to wrestle 197 and try to continue having fun on the mat

Campo gave up.
Correnti is trying and he deserves credit for doing so.
It isn't easy to go from a relatively lean 6'3 215 to 6'3 195 during your true freshman year in college, while wrestling against older, more experienced 197lbers at the D1 level.
It will be a very difficult year for Correnti this year and he deserves all the credit and respect there is for trying.
 
Are coolyans like cojones ? LOL !

Correnti should do like his older bro Mauro and eat like there's no tomorrow and be a 284 pound heavyweight, and enjoy life.
 
I'm also curious why Brandon Paetzell would travel to Cali , but not wrestle any of the 3 matches, when he could have stayed behind and wrestled in Binghamton and gotten some good tourny experience ? Or didn't he travel to Cali ?
 
Also. Why wrestle Correnti if he is cutting so much weight? Why not redshirt him let get used to the weight and wrestle open tournaments. Mulligan has a easier time making it and looks great to start the season. Honestly the key for this team is to limit bonus points up top. I hope we are up by at least 10 going into 197 next week or we are in trouble.
 
Creedo
I think we have been spoiled for 4 years in dual meets with Billy Smith closing out the matches at 285. Gross is a nice kid, trying hard but is no Billy Smith. He works hard in practice and hopefully improves during the year. If not that is what we have. The same with Correnti. He is cutting weight, most likely for the first time so let's see how he adjusts. We will struggle up top so let's hope we are far enough ahead to counter. If not, so be it.
 
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Are coolyans like cojones ? LOL !

Correnti should do like his older bro Mauro and eat like there's no tomorrow and be a 284 pound heavyweight, and enjoy life.

Mauro has always been a much bigger wide body than Matt.
Matt is more athletic than Mauro though.
 
Also. Why wrestle Correnti if he is cutting so much weight? Why not redshirt him let get used to the weight and wrestle open tournaments. Mulligan has a easier time making it and looks great to start the season. Honestly the key for this team is to limit bonus points up top. I hope we are up by at least 10 going into 197 next week or we are in trouble.

It would be nice if Rutgers could get a 13 point lead going into 197 against Princeton.
 
I'm also curious why Brandon Paetzell would travel to Cali , but not wrestle any of the 3 matches, when he could have stayed behind and wrestled in Binghamton and gotten some good tourny experience ? Or didn't he travel to Cali ?

Could there have been a concern that McCabe might not make weight at 125 at one point ?
 
Big question - What's the match cut off before needing to make a decision on a redshirt? In football it's by the 4th game.
 
Big question - What's the match cut off before needing to make a decision on a redshirt? In football it's by the 4th game.

The 4th game is not the cutoff for redshirting, once you play one snap you have burned your redshirt. You are thinking about a Medical Hardship(medical redshirt). Once you step on the mat in an RU singlet in one dual meet or one tournament(if you are not registered unattached), you burn your year.
 
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The 4th game is not the cutoff for redshirting, once you play one snap you have burned your redshirt. You are thinking about a Medical Hardship(medical redshirt). Once you step on the mat in an RU singlet in one dual meet or one tournament(if you are not registered unattached), you burn your year.

Thanks for the good info ! Does Wrestling NOT have a Medical Hardship then like football ?
In football a hangnail pretty much gets you the hardship.
 
Thats because it's the truth.Lets' be frank here..huh? Most of the guys that get their coolyans in a bunch,are the wannabe's who are involved in this program,some of the staff that are dillusional,and RU fans who either never wrestled,and if they did,they are living vicariously through these kids.Truth be told,Correnti looks defeated out there and I will put money on it he won't last.I saw the same"put his head down when he talks,unsure of himself" demeanor that Camp had.Believe me,I don't want this kid too quit or leave.I was comparing him too a better version of DJ Russo.The kid is either sucking weight,or content with that state title.I know that feeling all too well.Gross is lucky if he goes 500 this year.He looks like he is swimming through a restaurant to get too the all you can eat buffet at Golden Coral.All he is doing is pushing and pulling and not attacking.I'm sick of the "he's rusty" comments.the kid is 20 years old.He is in the prime of his life and has been doing this drill for his whole athletic career.He should be attacking and be in shape.Stop making excuses! Excuses are like a-holes..everyones got one.

The fact that Gross hasn't wrestled in 4 years, and hasn't been a Hwt...isn't an excuse... And comparing a true frosh cutting serious weight for the first time to an at the time 23yr old jr. Is plain idiotic...
 
Creedo
I think we have been spoiled for 4 years in dual meets with Billy Smith closing out the matches at 285. Gross is a nice kid, trying hard but is no Billy Smith. He works hard in practice and hopefully improves during the year. If not that is what we have. The same with Correnti. He is cutting weight, most likely for the first time so let's see how he adjusts. We will struggle up top so let's hope we are far enough ahead to counter. If not, so be it.
Bill..certainly agree with you on Gross' work ethic.I wouldn't say Billy Smith set the world on fire his last year either.He is a heck of a nice kid,but choked very badly in key matches and at the NCAA's.Gross on the other hand( and I maybe contradicting myself) does go after his opponents,but his technique seems so limited.Gravina's got his slide by,Dip's got his tilts,Ash and Theo cradles,Gross looks like a 3rd place district place winner with his skills,instead of a dominant 2 time state champ. Ok,maybe we can give the benefit of the doubt with him.4 years is quite a layoff,and it's not like we are wrestling Centenary,Kean and Montclair State every weekend.In fact, Gross got tossed into a meat grinder.I would think that he should slim out a little and be a lighter more athletic heavyweight given his short stature.i would of thought he could wrestle 197 and Mulligan jump up to heavy given his long physique.I guess Goodale and company know alot more than me,with what they are doing,given the success we have. Correnti,I am still kind of worried about.I know people are keeping away from rebuttling too me,because they feel like I am baiting them,but truth be told,I think someone needs too sit down with Correnti and figure out whats going on..The kid was such a force out there in hs,and although college is a different story,he looks like he's giving up.I get it,he's a freshman,under alot of pressure,very tired and weak from the drastic weight cut ( been there done that for RU),but maybe he should be redshirted.I know the plan is redshirt Mulligan,Correnti wrestles 197,Gross stays at heavy,Mulligan wrestles next year,Correnti reshirts,and Gross finishes up his last year setting up 3 years of those two.By the way,my intent is not ill will towards these young men.In fact,It makes me upset too see a kid like Correnti so slimmed out struggling for a spot on the team making it work.In that regards,he is true team player.I still don;t know what the heck is going on with Giraldo.Totally not into this..serioulsy.This is the kid who beat Earl Hall,and basically took down NCAA champ Cody Brewer at will.Looks totally disinterested.
 
Bill..certainly agree with you on Gross' work ethic.I wouldn't say Billy Smith set the world on fire his last year either.He is a heck of a nice kid,but choked very badly in key matches and at the NCAA's.Gross on the other hand( and I maybe contradicting myself) does go after his opponents,but his technique seems so limited.Gravina's got his slide by,Dip's got his tilts,Ash and Theo cradles,Gross looks like a 3rd place district place winner with his skills,instead of a dominant 2 time state champ. Ok,maybe we can give the benefit of the doubt with him.4 years is quite a layoff,and it's not like we are wrestling Centenary,Kean and Montclair State every weekend.In fact, Gross got tossed into a meat grinder.I would think that he should slim out a little and be a lighter more athletic heavyweight given his short stature.i would of thought he could wrestle 197 and Mulligan jump up to heavy given his long physique.I guess Goodale and company know alot more than me,with what they are doing,given the success we have. Correnti,I am still kind of worried about.I know people are keeping away from rebuttling too me,because they feel like I am baiting them,but truth be told,I think someone needs too sit down with Correnti and figure out whats going on..The kid was such a force out there in hs,and although college is a different story,he looks like he's giving up.I get it,he's a freshman,under alot of pressure,very tired and weak from the drastic weight cut ( been there done that for RU),but maybe he should be redshirted.I know the plan is redshirt Mulligan,Correnti wrestles 197,Gross stays at heavy,Mulligan wrestles next year,Correnti reshirts,and Gross finishes up his last year setting up 3 years of those two.By the way,my intent is not ill will towards these young men.In fact,It makes me upset too see a kid like Correnti so slimmed out struggling for a spot on the team making it work.In that regards,he is true team player.I still don;t know what the heck is going on with Giraldo.Totally not into this..serioulsy.This is the kid who beat Earl Hall,and basically took down NCAA champ Cody Brewer at will.Looks totally disinterested.
RU Creedo,
I'll take the bait and reply but let me first say that I appreciate that your tone has become more positive. I hate the idea of people on forums taking jabs at a student athlete's heart or drive to succeed. Having been a multi-year season ticket holder, Big Ten Plus buyer and having seen every match this year either live at the ESU Open, on Periscope (thanks Johnny Filmmaker) or on the Cal Poly YouTube Channel I will give this a shot:

Last year Giraldo was cutting so much weight that he was gassing within a few minutes. This year he is being overpowered by the above average 149ers. I don't think the reason for his record has to do with the fact that he is quitting. His best weight is probably 141.

Correnti has cut so much weight and so much muscle, that he is fatiguing quick. Hopefully, his body will hold more muscle as his weight plateaus at around 200 pounds.

I stood next to Razhonn at the ESU Open. I would estimate him to be about 5 feet 9 inches, 235 pounds. Based on his height, he should be much lighter, but he is weighed down by a few years of college football built bulky muscles. He looks like he is as strong as most of his opponents but he appears rusty as he is improving his technique with his new body type.

As always, I say, let's refrain from the name calling. All might not be rosy, but there is no reason not to be positive with this great group of student athletes. There are 2 more guys who signed NLI's for next year and so far there are a few more high level Verbals for 2018.
 
Creedo
I know you mean no ill will toward any of these kids or the program. I would like to see Giraldo get a lot of bouts at 149 so he can see what he will do at that weight. Confidence is key because he certainly has the talent. Agree about the Brerwer match.
 
Paetzell may not be close to Suriano now, but, he is a very hard worker that just needs to stay healthy and keep learning. I think Paetzell has a lot of potential.

I'm hoping Paetzell redshirts. McCabe looks solid at 125lb, and we Patrick who can back him up. Is Lewis redshirting? Gotta give it to Dippery! Wow, what a team player and a motivated wrestler he is!

Btw, what is going on with Giraldo? Does not look good...
 
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