Rutgers Athletics Radio Show Featuring Pat Hobbs / January 11 7:30-8:30 @ Quaker Steak-Edison
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I believe he's doing all he can to make as positive a situation for RU fans pissed about playing at Yankee Stadium, set up by Julie.
Wonder if Connie fans are being snowflake fans about playing BC at Fenway...giving up one of their home games.
This is exactly my journey.
Throw in a few kids and wife who, although has gotten much better at FB appreciation, still enjoys the tailgate/atmosphere more, you feel my full pain.
some of us season ticket holders travel 2 hours to get to RU football and Bball games-being a fan shouldn't be influenced by 1.5 hour drives--other fans of major college teams would laugh
its not just the drive...if it were a football stadium, I guarantee people would accept it eventually, if it was Met Life people wouldnt care. Its the sightlines which are terrible, its a freakin baseball stadium
Yes, I remember going to Nebraska and there were all these banners for the Cornhusker Club of Denver , Kansas City, St Louis, Dallas - Fort Worth etc.,. Because that's were they were coming from. The fan base is much broader than Greater Omaha.
At Arkansas I was suprised how many people came in from Texas. As they said, I'm from Arkansas and love it but to get a decent job I needed to go somewhere else.
We take for granted being in the middle of an exceedingly dense region with lots of opportunity.
It is sort of sad when our fan base treats RU as a Middlesex County focused activity.
The fact they put the Yankee game as mandatory in the season ticket packet, they know no one would buy them.
I guess the same can be said for any non-marque game, but that is not the point. Its not a GAME ON CAMPUS.
I just don't see what Delany sees in Yankee Stadium. Is it some kind of push to get NYC kids to know Rutgers is "their" team? Get Poly Prep recrutis to stop going everywhere else in the country? SMH
I guess the same can be said for any non-marque game, but that is not the point. Its not a GAME ON CAMPUS.
I just don't see what Delany sees in Yankee Stadium. Is it some kind of push to get NYC kids to know Rutgers is "their" team? Get Poly Prep recrutis to stop going everywhere else in the country? SMH
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FWIW, it is possible to tailgate at Yankee Stadium. Probably not as large as some of us are used to at Rutgers, but I've seen some decent tailgate parties at Yankee games.
There are members of my tailgate group who travel 2 hours to get to Rutgers Stadium, and I have a friend who travels from Massachusetts to attend every game. But they signed up for that when they bought season tickets. They have their routine, which includes staying overnight before or after the game, depending on kickoff time. A big part of the routine, and a significant factor in their having season tickets, is the tailgate. They have prep, set up, tailgating, and clean up, down to a science.
And yet they hate the idea of the game at Yankee Stadium. And it is not the extra hour drive (or even an hour closer for my Massachusetts friend). It is a total disruption of their gameday experience including the elimination of tailgating and inferior seating/sightlines.
At this point, Rutgers can't do anything about the physical attributes of Yankee Stadium. But they can do things to minimize the other impacts to fans:
- Run buses to Yankee Stadium. Rutgers can charge $10 per person, which offsets the $20-$50 per carload that fans save by not buying parking at Rutgers Stadium. To minimize travel time impact to fans, they can run buses from multiple locations, e.g., Piscataway, Freehold, Morristown, etc.
- Provide pre-paid parking at Yankee Stadium, so fans who want to drive at least know where they are going to park in advance.
- Provide some sort of tailgating alternative. Prior to our first Pinstripe Bowl, Rutgers ran a tailgate at the Yankee Tavern with lots of food and drink. That was a lot of fun. Prior to our second Pinstripe Bowl, I just went to some bars in the area. Drink prices were pretty high (except for Coors Light specials) and there was no food as far as I could tell. I ended up going to McDonalds to get something to eat. That was pretty sucky. So maybe Rutgers can set up rent out the Yankee Tavern (and some other bars if the Yankee Tavern sells out) to have reasonably-priced tailgate alternatives. Or Rutgers can use the group hospitality areas and clubs inside the Stadium to provide a tailgate alternative between the wrestling match and football game.
Not by this move for sure. But anybody that thinks less money is the way to get the program they want is more than a little off.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand that. When exactly has Rutgers been in front ? 1976 ?
RU fans have put up with about as much over the years as any school's fans. Give them a break please.
Pretty sure that laughter started after somebody said, "they're playing a HOME conference game where?" - uncontrollable laughter begins.
Maybe because that's where the Stadium, the RAC and everything else related to Rutgers is actually in Middlesex County.
Is there such thing a triple face palm .gif out out there? WOW.
Look I think it is a bad idea to play in Yankee Stadium and I don't like it personally but I'm not gong to get petulant about it and threaten to stay home.
For way too long the athletic department was run with a vision that stretched from Bridgewater to Highland Park.
We are a State University in the largest media market in the country in one of the premier sports leagues in the land, including the pros. We as a fan base need to develop a touch of resilience.
I hope we stop doing these things but even if it was just to be able to say we keep our commitments I get it, even if I'm not crazy about it.
For way too long the athletic department was run with a vision that stretched from Bridgewater to Highland Park.
We are a State University in the largest media market in the country in one of the premier sports leagues in the land, including the pros. We as a fan base need to develop a touch of resilience.
I hope we stop doing these things but even if it was just to be able to say we keep our commitments I get it, even if I'm not crazy about it.
Re: positive exposure. Two teams played in the White Sox stadium this year. Without googling, you tell me who they were & I'll buy you a $14 pretzel at the Maryland game.
That resilience you speak of can start by not having our program barnstorming across the area.
As for that vision thing...we're in the B1G now lets open our eyes and act like it and try not do stuff like this again.
Away game there....yes.
OOC marquee type game...sure why not. If they Yankees want to pay of course. Same thing with the Giants/Jets with regard to something at MetLife.
HOME conference game...and some of you wonder why term "same ole Rutgers" is still used.
Not only can't I tell you which teams that played at that stadium, I can even tell you the name of the stadium where the White Sox play.
The White Sox have a stadium?
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OK. I guess wrong. Thought maybe NW v. Illinois.
It was two MAC teams, so who cares?
We R B1G, and Yankee Stadium is one of the cathedrals of professional athletics, so there will be slightly more people interested in the venue and the the teams playing.
The cathedral you speak of no longer exists.
The hallowed ground where the legends played (in FB and baseball) is now just a park across the street.
Where you born yesterday?
Yankee Stadium
"The House That Ruth Built"
"The Big Ballpark in the Bronx"
"The Cathedral of Baseball"
"The Stadium"
Eh, I am not going to quibble with a FDNY guy, and yes, I know the old one was torn down. But, still, Yankee Stadium II, or The New Yankee Stadium is an iconic sports venue, even though it is not THE CATHEDRAL OF BASEBALL, it is still considered one of the top sports venues in the world or as the definition of cathedral says: ".▸ noun: any large and important church."
Note that I did not call it "The Cathedral of Baseball". I said it was one of the cathredrals of sports.
This thread is starting to feel like the Trump and the Russians debate. One side swears he is owned by the Russians, the other side thinks it is fake news. Those that hate the idea of playing the game at Yankee Stadium are playing hardball, and are going to kick and scream and teach Hobbs a lesson.
Where you born yesterday?
Yankee Stadium
"The House That Ruth Built"
"The Big Ballpark in the Bronx"
"The Cathedral of Baseball"
"The Stadium"
That's the old stadium
Where you born yesterday?
Yankee Stadium
"The House That Ruth Built"
"The Big Ballpark in the Bronx"
"The Cathedral of Baseball"
"The Stadium"
Maybe you fellas missed it . That stadium doesn't exist anymore. It was demolished to build a luxury box revenue generator across the street in 2009. Some cathedral!
the complaint about Yankee stadium is
1. loss of home field advantage. Yankee Stadium is NOT our home
2. playing football in a baseball stadium that has proven to have horrid sightlines and even worse playing field for the players
3. the inconvenience of driving to the Bronx which really is a pain
4. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that we lose money by going there and I can't imagine it's not the truth. no revenue for parking or food.
interesting tidbit I was told this week by Rutgers: the wrestling match is NOT part of the home game season ticket package for wrestling. When I asked about a back up plan for inclement weather ( at the Battle of the Birthplace match with Princeton the RAC was the back up plan) I was told "I'll have to get back to you"
1. loss of home field advantage. Yankee Stadium is NOT our home
2. playing football in a baseball stadium that has proven to have horrid sightlines and even worse playing field for the players
3. the inconvenience of driving to the Bronx which really is a pain
4. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that we lose money by going there and I can't imagine it's not the truth. no revenue for parking or food.
interesting tidbit I was told this week by Rutgers: the wrestling match is NOT part of the home game season ticket package for wrestling. When I asked about a back up plan for inclement weather ( at the Battle of the Birthplace match with Princeton the RAC was the back up plan) I was told "I'll have to get back to you"
well that was an obvious to me, but yes, you are correct.
we did tailgate at the Pinstripe bowl vs ND...on the roof of a garage. we went as a group in a limo bus so we brought coolers and didn't cook but others around us brought grills. It is possible but very painful
Possible, but limited. Would you be able to set up the same type of tailgate you have at Rutgers Stadium? Is there room for everyone (or even 50%) who tailgates at Rutgers to tailgate at Yankee Stadium with tailgates of similar size and scope?
Also, I'm not sure that the problem of no tailgating is obvious to Pat Hobbs. In the radio show he called the wrestling match "our tailgate in the stadium". Unless he is actually planning to have tailgate-like events in the hospitality areas of the stadium (as I suggested earlier in this thread), a wrestling match is nothing like a tailgate.
Even worse, if there is a 2-hour gap between the wrestling match and the football game, the people who attend the wrestling match are stuck in the stadium for 2 hours of dead time, without the ability to leave to even hang out at a local bar.
my tailgate would not be the same anything in the Bronx. Frankly, depending on the time of it all I'd rather head over to Arthur Ave and do some food shopping than to tailgate on a garage roof again.
my understanding is that the time gap is supposed to be 90 minutes...which is the smallest window of time they can get the mats off the field and the players warming up
given that Hobbs has been to every tailgate lot at least once and seen what we at Rutgers do for tailgating I can't imagine how he does not understand what we will be missing out on. I was supposed to attend the radio show the other night but had to bail at the last minute so I didn't get to question him on it all.
I also couldn't imagine that Pat did not understand how and why Rutgers fans tailgate. But calling the wrestling match "our tailgate in the stadium" are his words.
There is a lot of room between tragedy and poor gameday experience
thats odd that the wrestling match wasnt part of the home season ticket package. I would think those are the people that really want to go...I guess they are forcing those people to go by purchasing tix to the whole shebang if they dont already overlap as football seaosn ticket holders.
Ive been to a few wrestling matches, its enjoyable enough but personally for me I have no interest in sitting with bad sitelines to watch wrestling for a couple hours, then waiting 90 min to 2 hours for the football game to start...thats not what I consider a tailgate.
Ive been to a few wrestling matches, its enjoyable enough but personally for me I have no interest in sitting with bad sitelines to watch wrestling for a couple hours, then waiting 90 min to 2 hours for the football game to start...thats not what I consider a tailgate.
As he always does on here I thought @Upstream did a great job of explaining of what the thoughts and concerns are for some of the fan base. His one example of using the tailgate setup/situation was IMO simple and straight forward.
But to put in in even simpler terms is this....we as season ticket holders are being basically asked to pay for an away game. To me that's what it comes down to. Basketball is not and now we have found it neither are the Wrestling season ticket holders.
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