Rutgers Has Active Partnership With University That Banned Jewish Students in 2014

[NealPageNJ]

According to Holloway, Rutgers didn’t cave to the encampment demand to partner with Birzeit University in the West Bank. Holloway explains the university has had an active partnership with Birzeit University. The school has banned Jewish students from attending.

 

[Caliknight]

I'm shocked to hear this.


At what point is the Swastika going to be an official emblem of the University?

 

[motorb54]

Holloway got off easy.
The other two were ripped and made more news reports.
And Rutgers dumping Holloway would be putting a band aid over your malignant tumor.
Will the Board of Governors or Trustees do anything about this relationship?

 

[NealPageNJ]

Holloway got off easy.
The other two were ripped and made more news reports.
And Rutgers dumping Holloway would be putting a band aid over your malignant tumor.
Will the Board of Governors or Trustees do anything about this relationship?

I believe it appeared Holloway got off easy because he handled his testimony much better. He didn’t really get confrontational and seem to accept the issues Rutgers has when it comes to antisemitism. The other two, especially Northwestern President were terrible so it made him look better.

 

[NotInRHouse]

According to Holloway, Rutgers didn’t cave to the encampment demand to partner with Birzeit University in the West Bank. Holloway explains the university has had an active partnership with Birzeit University. The school has banned Jewish students from attending.

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They barred Israelis, who are barred by Israeli law from being there anyway.

Because Israel keeps one law for Jews in the West Bank, and another for Arabs.

Aka Apartheid.

It's bad enough you have done nothing but post lies about RU, but you have to be the biggest non-Valet/Landscaper here committed to sharing anti-Semitic rantings.

Do you ever post tweets from Congresspeople who don't support "Jews will not replace us" chants, who don't support dinner with Nick Fuentes, and who are opposed to a unified Reich?

After the anti-Semitic Replacement Theory advocates you simp for got slapped around by President Holloway yesterday, I get your meltdown.

The RU Jewish Community and President Holloway have exposed your lies. It's no wonder the Jewish professors have come out to support him while you grasp at straws.

Knowing you've never been on campus, I still hope you get to be there when President Holloway opens the Arab Center. Maybe you can bring one of your committee members, assuming the building isn't too close to a playground?

 

[NealPageNJ]

They barred Israelis, who are barred by Israeli law from being there anyway.

Because Israel keeps one law for Jews in the West Bank, and another for Arabs.

Aka Apartheid.

It's bad enough you have done nothing but post lies about RU, but you have to be the biggest non-Valet/Landscaper here committed to sharing anti-Semitic rantings.

Do you ever post tweets from Congresspeople who don't support "Jews will not replace us" chants, who don't support dinner with Nick Fuentes, and who are opposed to a unified Reich?

After the anti-Semitic Replacement Theory advocates you simp for got slapped around by President Holloway yesterday, I get your meltdown.

The RU Jewish Community and President Holloway have exposed your lies. It's no wonder the Jewish professors have come out to support him while you grasp at straws.

Knowing you've never been on campus, I still hope you get to be there when President Holloway opens the Arab Center. Maybe you can bring one of your committee members, assuming the building isn't too close to a playground?

They banned Jewish people from campus. Yes this includes Israeli Jews. Israeli Arabs (yes they exist, 20% of Israel population) are not banned. This started in 2014 and has nothing to do with Israeli law.

The rest of your rambling has nothing to do with the topic at hand. The fact that Rutgers has an active partnership with this university and agrees to expanding the partnership to appease the encampment is another bullet point explaining the antisemitism problem Rutgers has within their faculty and student body.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/jews-not-allowed-in-palestinian-university

 

[Scarlet Engineer]

From what I’ve read, the 2014 expulsion of a Jewish journalist from a lecture at Birzeit University was done by two professors and their action was against university policy. The university apologized to the journalist.

 

[knight_ru]

I think Holloway did pretty well overall even with the over the top theatrics from the Republican reps. It was pathetic to watch them ask questions.

The worst was asking about specific students when answering would be a violation of Ferpa. Either the GOP rep was too dumb to know about Ferpa or didn’t care and wanted to score cheap points.

 

[Caliknight]

Holloway was an embarrassing mess.

 

[NealPageNJ]

From what I’ve read, the 2014 expulsion of a Jewish journalist from a lecture at Birzeit University was done by two professors and their action was against university policy. The university apologized to the journalist.

“Furthermore, the letter noted that Birzeit refuses to hire Jewish faculty or enroll Jewish students, thus preventing local Jewish students and faculty from participating in any exchange or programming”

NJ University’s Collaboration With West Bank University Draws Fire - The Jewish Link

A memorandum of understanding (MOU) between William Paterson University of Wayne, New Jersey and Birzeit University in the West Bank has drawn fire and threats of legal action because of the West Bank educational institution’s support of the boycott, divestment and sanctions campaign against...

jewishlink.news

“Birzeit University, a university in the West Bank that openly prohibits Israeli-Jewish students and lecturers from entering its campus. ”

DEBATE: Should EUSA cease to be twinned with Birzeit University?

studentnewspaper.org

“A student group affiliated with the Hamas terror organization was re-elected to power this week at the West Bank’s Birzeit University.”

As Hamas Terror Group Takes Control of West Bank’s Birzeit University, Will European Partner Institutions Respond? | HonestReporting

We call on our subscribers to contact their local student newspapers and help raise awareness of this issue.

honestreporting.com

 

[GSGS]

They banned Jewish people from campus. Yes this includes Israeli Jews. Israeli Arabs (yes they exist, 20% of Israel population) are not banned. This started in 2014 and has nothing to do with Israeli law.

The rest of your rambling has nothing to do with the topic at hand. The fact that Rutgers has an active partnership with this university and agrees to expanding the partnership to appease the encampment is another bullet point explaining the antisemitism problem Rutgers has within their faculty and student body.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/jews-not-allowed-in-palestinian-university

Hahaha, once again, NoJewsInMyHouse's false narrative has been corrected by the facts, adding to his long tradition of posting BS on these boards.

 

[NealPageNJ]

It's bad enough you have done nothing but post lies about RU,
The RU Jewish Community and President Holloway have exposed your lies. It's no wonder the Jewish professors have come out to support him while you grasp at straws.

Over 200 Rutgers faculty so far have signed a letter condemning the antisemitism on campus. The movement to support Jewish students on campus has been organized by JFAS (Jewish Faculty, Administrators and Staff) to address and mitigate the effects of antisemitism on campus. The letter also includes 15 bullet pointed examples of the growing antisemitism within Rutgers student body and faculty.

Link to letter:

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/05/Rutgers-Faculty-Staff-Letter-in-Support-of-Our-Jewish-Students-May-2024.pdf

 

[NotInRHouse]

Over 200 Rutgers faculty so far have signed a letter condemning the antisemitism on campus. The movement to support Jewish students on campus has been organized by JFAS (Jewish Faculty, Administrators and Staff) to address and mitigate the effects of antisemitism on campus. The letter also includes 15 bullet pointed examples of the growing antisemitism within Rutgers student body and faculty.

Link to letter:

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/05/Rutgers-Faculty-Staff-Letter-in-Support-of-Our-Jewish-Students-May-2024.pdf

I guess you "missed" this one?

Rutgers faculty defend the university in advance of Thursday’s GOP-led congressional hearing on antisemitism on campus

The faculty union and a group of Jewish professors support the agreement president Jonathan Holloway reached with pro-Palestinian protesters, though some Jewish students and faculty oppose it.

www.inquirer.com

 

[NotInRHouse]

They banned Jewish people from campus. Yes this includes Israeli Jews. Israeli Arabs (yes they exist, 20% of Israel population) are not banned. This started in 2014 and has nothing to do with Israeli law.

The rest of your rambling has nothing to do with the topic at hand. The fact that Rutgers has an active partnership with this university and agrees to expanding the partnership to appease the encampment is another bullet point explaining the antisemitism problem Rutgers has within their faculty and student body.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/jews-not-allowed-in-palestinian-university

Glad you admit you support antisemitic politicians and their disinformation.

Now that we've gotten you support for those who chant "Jew will not replace us" out of the way, let's sort through the remainder of your Ls:

- The apartheid government of Israel enforces military law on Arabs but not Jews in the West Bank.

Israeli law in the West Bank settlements - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Therefore, even IF Israelis wanted to attend Arab universities in the West Bank, their own government won't allow it.
Now, onto your next L., As was pointed out to you, you're talking about one lecturer.

As is typical for you, you rely on disinformation- honestreporting.com LMAO- even Valet and Landscaper would be sceptical! Even an Israeli newspaper points out Jews aren't banned. My god you're bad at this...

When a Haaretz journalist was asked to leave a Palestinian university

An isolated incident snowballed into a wide debate whether Birzeit students' right to a safe space where Israelis are not allowed should apply to leftists, as well.

www.haaretz.com

But that's not all...of course...Israeli Us are doing it to Arab lecturers too...how democratic of them....is that antisemiitiic too?

Israel Shows Its Contempt for Academic Freedom

The headline is almost a generic one, applicable to dozens of Israeli actions. I’m using it now specifically in connection with Israel denying entrance to my SOAS colleague Dr. Adam Hanieh, w…

opiniojuris.org

I know it's been a tough time. Holloway crushed the antisemites you worship in a hearing. Jewish professors pointed out your lies about there being any antisemitism on campus. And your indicted bigoted criminal (the Israeli one, not the rapist one- you do worship more than one after all) murdered more innocent citizens to the point now where right wingers in Europe even want to sanction him.

Save those tears though. You'll need them for the Arab center opening.

 

[NotInRHouse]

From what I’ve read, the 2014 expulsion of a Jewish journalist from a lecture at Birzeit University was done by two professors and their action was against university policy. The university apologized to the journalist.

Of course it was. The Israeli press says so...but disinfo queen Neal has honestreporting.com and promoters of the antisemitic Great Replacement Theory on his side.

When a Haaretz journalist was asked to leave a Palestinian university

An isolated incident snowballed into a wide debate whether Birzeit students' right to a safe space where Israelis are not allowed should apply to leftists, as well.

www.haaretz.com

Once again antisemites like GSGS get exposed like they were in Charlottesville.

 

[NotInRHouse]

I think Holloway did pretty well overall even with the over the top theatrics from the Republican reps. It was pathetic to watch them ask questions.

The worst was asking about specific students when answering would be a violation of Ferpa. Either the GOP rep was too dumb to know about Ferpa or didn’t care and wanted to score cheap points.

Don't be silly. You really think GOP knows the law? Their leader is two ton Tess Stefarvnick who promotes the idea that Jews are importing immigrants.

 

[GSGS]

Glad you admit you support antisemitic politicians and their disinformation.

Now that we've gotten you support for those who chant "Jew will not replace us" out of the way, let's sort through the remainder of your Ls:

- The apartheid government of Israel enforces military law on Arabs but not Jews in the West Bank.

Israeli law in the West Bank settlements - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The distinction that you cite is not between Jews and Arabs, but rather Israeli citizens and non-citizens (Palestinians). Oops!!!!

 

[DJ Spanky]

Hahaha, once again, NoJewsInMyHouse's false narrative has been corrected by the facts, adding to his long tradition of posting BS on these boards.

Great name!

 

[NealPageNJ]

Glad you admit you support antisemitic politicians and their disinformation.

Now that we've gotten you support for those who chant "Jew will not replace us" out of the way, let's sort through the remainder of your Ls:

- The apartheid government of Israel enforces military law on Arabs but not Jews in the West Bank.

Israeli law in the West Bank settlements - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Therefore, even IF Israelis wanted to attend Arab universities in the West Bank, their own government won't allow it.
Now, onto your next L., As was pointed out to you, you're talking about one lecturer.

As is typical for you, you rely on disinformation- honestreporting.com LMAO- even Valet and Landscaper would be sceptical! Even an Israeli newspaper points out Jews aren't banned. My god you're bad at this...

When a Haaretz journalist was asked to leave a Palestinian university

An isolated incident snowballed into a wide debate whether Birzeit students' right to a safe space where Israelis are not allowed should apply to leftists, as well.

www.haaretz.com

But that's not all...of course...Israeli Us are doing it to Arab lecturers too...how democratic of them....is that antisemiitiic too?

Israel Shows Its Contempt for Academic Freedom

The headline is almost a generic one, applicable to dozens of Israeli actions. I’m using it now specifically in connection with Israel denying entrance to my SOAS colleague Dr. Adam Hanieh, w…

opiniojuris.org

I know it's been a tough time. Holloway crushed the antisemites you worship in a hearing. Jewish professors pointed out your lies about there being any antisemitism on campus. And your indicted bigoted criminal (the Israeli one, not the rapist one- you do worship more than one after all) murdered more innocent citizens to the point now where right wingers in Europe even want to sanction him.

Save those tears though. You'll need them for the Arab center opening.

Birzeit Univeristy has banned Jewish students and faculty from campus. Rutgers has an active partnership with the university. Nothing in any of your responses speak otherwise.

 

[NealPageNJ]

Hahaha, once again, NoJewsInMyHouse's false narrative has been corrected by the facts, adding to his long tradition of posting BS on these boards.

That poster is wrong on about 80-90% of what is included in those posts. Sometimes it is hard to find anything that is accurate because the posts are full of words that have nothing to do with the topic and the university.

 

[Knight177lb]

They barred Israelis, who are barred by Israeli law from being there anyway.

Because Israel keeps one law for Jews in the West Bank, and another for Arabs.

Aka Apartheid.

It's bad enough you have done nothing but post lies about RU, but you have to be the biggest non-Valet/Landscaper here committed to sharing anti-Semitic rantings.

Do you ever post tweets from Congresspeople who don't support "Jews will not replace us" chants, who don't support dinner with Nick Fuentes, and who are opposed to a unified Reich?

After the anti-Semitic Replacement Theory advocates you simp for got slapped around by President Holloway yesterday, I get your meltdown.

The RU Jewish Community and President Holloway have exposed your lies. It's no wonder the Jewish professors have come out to support him while you grasp at straws.

Knowing you've never been on campus, I still hope you get to be there when President Holloway opens the Arab Center. Maybe you can bring one of your committee members, assuming the building isn't too close to a playground?

If it were not for the settlements, there would be zero Jews allowed in the West Bank. In fact, if it weren't for security walls, all Jews would be killed for the crime of being Jewish. Now, if there was no Israeli government at all, Jews in Israel would also be killed. Just because Jews take security measures to keep themselves alive, does not constitute apartheid. It's very misleading to use that term.

 

[NotInRHouse]

If it were not for the settlements, there would be zero Jews allowed in the West Bank. In fact, if it weren't for security walls, all Jews would be killed for the crime of being Jewish. Now, if there was no Israeli government at all, Jews in Israel would also be killed. Just because Jews take security measures to keep themselves alive, does not constitute apartheid. It's very misleading to use that term.

There is a big difference between security measures and saying let's have roads based on faith or ethnicity. I am sure if you asked the apartheid regime or the governors in the 1960s American South, you'd hear that segregation was in fact a security measure as well.

There shouldn't be settlements at all. They're illegal. If Israel moved the 1967 borders as required by law, if they think walls worked they're free to have one. They did not seem to work on 10/7 but they do seem to work at riling up people in a lot of countries.

Right now the Saudis are willing to recognize Israel if they make concrete moves towards a Palestinian state, which, of course, first among them would be let's not have roads based on whether you're Jewish or Arab and let's get to 1967 borders or a fair land swap.

There are a million more examples- Israel uses Israeli law in the settlements, military law otherwise in the West Bank. Arab terrorists get homes demolished without trial, settler terrorists don't and get their behinds kissed. Forgetting even Gaza, Israel has actually killed a number of American citizens in the West Bank who were not a security threat, including a journalist and a grandpa, in the past year. And, even within Israel, Jewish citizens who criticize the government have been detained and they are banning TV stations.

Israel isn't a democracy. If tomorrow France banned TV stations and told Arabs take different roads and said the French Supreme Court is null and void if they tried to stop it, you wouldn't have people in this country saying it was a beacon of enlightenment on the world. The "well we're better than Iran" argument is ridiculous. Imagine if Biden banned Fox News and said, "Well in North Korea you only have state TV!" What would be the reaction?

Israel has the right to exist and Israelis in peace within its borders, absolutely. What it doesn't have is the right to move its borders and slaughter people in response and then demagogue people, including and especially Jews and Israelis who have the temerity to point it out- with the laughable aid of people who cheered Charlottesville as "very fine people" and those wearing "Camp Auschwitz" sweatshirts as "hostages." That we need to take seriously the people who insist they care about Israel when they bash American Jews and simp for the pols who talk "Jewish space lasers" here and "the Arabs are voting in droves" in Israel is one of the greatest moral outrages in a time when there are too many to count. That needs to be the first order of business in any of these discussions.

 

[NotInRHouse]

The distinction that you cite is not between Jews and Arabs, but rather Israeli citizens and non-citizens (Palestinians). Oops!!!!

LOL so you admit you and Neal lied then?

Is your community college degree in illiteracy, bigotry or both?

 

[NotInRHouse]

That poster is wrong on about 80-90% of what is included in those posts. Sometimes it is hard to find anything that is accurate because the posts are full of words that have nothing to do with the topic and the university.

LMAO

I cited an Israeli newspaper.
'
You cited honestreporting.com.

Are you just illiterate?

 

[NotInRHouse]

Birzeit Univeristy has banned Jewish students and faculty from campus. Rutgers has an active partnership with the university. Nothing in any of your responses speak otherwise.

Actually, as the Israeli newspaper pointed out, Jewish students were not banned.

I and other posters, once again, caught you lying.

I have facts from Israel.

You have antisemitic propaganda from your allies who hate Jews.

Maybe your first trip to a college campus can be to the Rutgers Arab Center. Perhaps President Holloway can include a program there for literacy?

Or maybe just to help people like you stop spreading anti-Jewish hate?

 

[Knight177lb]

There is a big difference between security measures and saying let's have roads based on faith or ethnicity. I am sure if you asked the apartheid regime or the governors in the 1960s American South, you'd hear that segregation was in fact a security measure as well.

There shouldn't be settlements at all. They're illegal. If Israel moved the 1967 borders as required by law, if they think walls worked they're free to have one. They did not seem to work on 10/7 but they do seem to work at riling up people in a lot of countries.

Right now the Saudis are willing to recognize Israel if they make concrete moves towards a Palestinian state, which, of course, first among them would be let's not have roads based on whether you're Jewish or Arab and let's get to 1967 borders or a fair land swap.

There are a million more examples- Israel uses Israeli law in the settlements, military law otherwise in the West Bank. Arab terrorists get homes demolished without trial, settler terrorists don't and get their behinds kissed. Forgetting even Gaza, Israel has actually killed a number of American citizens in the West Bank who were not a security threat, including a journalist and a grandpa, in the past year. And, even within Israel, Jewish citizens who criticize the government have been detained and they are banning TV stations.

Israel isn't a democracy. If tomorrow France banned TV stations and told Arabs take different roads and said the French Supreme Court is null and void if they tried to stop it, you wouldn't have people in this country saying it was a beacon of enlightenment on the world. The "well we're better than Iran" argument is ridiculous. Imagine if Biden banned Fox News and said, "Well in North Korea you only have state TV!" What would be the reaction?

Israel has the right to exist and Israelis in peace within its borders, absolutely. What it doesn't have is the right to move its borders and slaughter people in response and then demagogue people, including and especially Jews and Israelis who have the temerity to point it out- with the laughable aid of people who cheered Charlottesville as "very fine people" and those wearing "Camp Auschwitz" sweatshirts as "hostages." That we need to take seriously the people who insist they care about Israel when they bash American Jews and simp for the pols who talk "Jewish space lasers" here and "the Arabs are voting in droves" in Israel is one of the greatest moral outrages in a time when there are too many to count. That needs to be the first order of business in any of these discussions.

Yes, it is all for security. Very minor measures considering the Palestinian leaders are calling for the elimination of Israel. Remember, the elimination of Israel means the death of 8 million Jews living in Israel bringing the population of Jews from 0.2% of the world's population down to 0.1%. This is not a solution.

The only thing that's going to work is for the Arabs to stop killing Jews. I used to think the same thing as you. Let's just have all the Jews abandon their settlements and pull out of the West Bank and give the Palestinians a state. However, after doing a little research, I found out this is impossible. Afterall, look what happened when Jews were forcibly removed from their homes in Gaza and Israel pulled out. It was immediately met with violence. Then I found out that Israel offered to pull out of the West Bank and offered a Palestinian state. Each time the offer was made, it was met with violence - the first and second intifadas where the goal was to kill as many Jews as possible. The goal all along of the Palestinian leaders has been the elimination of Israel. I couldn't believe this, but it's not Israel that doesn't want a two state solution, it's the Palestinians that don't want it. They want everything. They don't want equal rights, they want all Jews to be killed.

The situation is hardly anything near what happened in the 1960's. There were some whites that considered blacks to be inferior and wanted segregation. Israel doesn't feel Arabs are inferior, everything is done just merely to survive. Blacks didn't have goal of killing all whites.

I'm glad you understand that Israel has a right to exist, but Israel has done everything thing it can to meet Palestinian demands. The one demand they cannot meet though is to allow themselves to be slaughtered. I also found out that Arabs have been killing Jews since 1920. This is way before there were any settlements or even an Israel. That's when I realized it doesn't matter what the Jews do. They are hated for being Jewish.

 

[NealPageNJ]

There is a big difference between security measures and saying let's have roads based on faith or ethnicity. I am sure if you asked the apartheid regime or the governors in the 1960s American South, you'd hear that segregation was in fact a security measure as well.

There shouldn't be settlements at all. They're illegal. If Israel moved the 1967 borders as required by law, if they think walls worked they're free to have one. They did not seem to work on 10/7 but they do seem to work at riling up people in a lot of countries.

Right now the Saudis are willing to recognize Israel if they make concrete moves towards a Palestinian state, which, of course, first among them would be let's not have roads based on whether you're Jewish or Arab and let's get to 1967 borders or a fair land swap.

There are a million more examples- Israel uses Israeli law in the settlements, military law otherwise in the West Bank. Arab terrorists get homes demolished without trial, settler terrorists don't and get their behinds kissed. Forgetting even Gaza, Israel has actually killed a number of American citizens in the West Bank who were not a security threat, including a journalist and a grandpa, in the past year. And, even within Israel, Jewish citizens who criticize the government have been detained and they are banning TV stations.

Israel isn't a democracy. If tomorrow France banned TV stations and told Arabs take different roads and said the French Supreme Court is null and void if they tried to stop it, you wouldn't have people in this country saying it was a beacon of enlightenment on the world. The "well we're better than Iran" argument is ridiculous. Imagine if Biden banned Fox News and said, "Well in North Korea you only have state TV!" What would be the reaction?

Israel has the right to exist and Israelis in peace within its borders, absolutely. What it doesn't have is the right to move its borders and slaughter people in response and then demagogue people, including and especially Jews and Israelis who have the temerity to point it out- with the laughable aid of people who cheered Charlottesville as "very fine people" and those wearing "Camp Auschwitz" sweatshirts as "hostages." That we need to take seriously the people who insist they care about Israel when they bash American Jews and simp for the pols who talk "Jewish space lasers" here and "the Arabs are voting in droves" in Israel is one of the greatest moral outrages in a time when there are too many to count. That needs to be the first order of business in any of these discussions.

So much wrong in here. Actually just about all of it is wrong. The Oslo Accords are an agreement between Israel and then the PLO in the 1990’s established three different areas in the West Bank. The agreement specifies who will administrate each area and how. Settlements are not illegal. There are Jewish extremists who have murdered Arabs in the West Bank and/Jerusalem who have received life sentences in jail.

This poster writes as if Israel has just forced its will upon the West Bank with no mutual agreement. It’s just more Jewish scapegoating. The facts are both governments have agreed to these terms in the interest of safety of each other. Yes there are different roads just like there are different permissions for the Al Asqa Mosque and the Temple Mount.

 

[NealPageNJ]

LMAO

I cited an Israeli newspaper.
'
You cited honestreporting.com.

Are you just illiterate?

I’ve been rather polite in correcting a number of incorrect posts you have made. Here, you are referencing and article from 2014 citing an incident prior to that date. The article is behind a pay wall but the following is available to the reader:

“An isolated incident snowballed into a wide debate whether Birzeit students' right to a safe space where Israelis are not allowed should apply to leftists, as well.”

I’ve purposely ignored a number of your insults and demeaning attacks weaved within poorly informed statements. I don’t mind engaging in discussion but I’m not going to entertain the ongoing, uncalled for personal insults. Most especially, referring to me as a “queen”, clearly a homophobic slur you’re using to further attack. I believe you have been removed from other boards for similar behavior. Let’s stick to the topic of the thread and the discussion at hand. If you want to post your claims, be prepared for counter arguments where they exist. But please clean up your schtick.

 

[NotInRHouse]

So much wrong in here. Actually just about all of it is wrong. The Oslo Accords are an agreement between Israel and then the PLO in the 1990’s established three different areas in the West Bank. The agreement specifies who will administrate each area and how. Settlements are not illegal. There are Jewish extremists who have murdered Arabs in the West Bank and/Jerusalem who have received life sentences in jail.

This poster writes as if Israel has just forced its will upon the West Bank with no mutual agreement. It’s just more Jewish scapegoating. The facts are both governments have agreed to these terms in the interest of safety of each other. Yes there are different roads just like there are different permissions for the Al Asqa Mosque and the Temple Mount.

LOL

You're just so, so bad at this

L by L again:

L 1) Military rule for Palestinians, Jewish law for settlers and the many settler terrorists.

You took this L before. Sad.

Israeli law in the West Bank settlements - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

L 2) Settlements aren't illegal? LOL! Landscaper level lie that one. Literally no one outside of some in the Israeli gov recognizes them as legal.

Israeli settlement - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

L2A) Settlers don't face the same punishments because of #1.

Israeli demolition of Palestinian property - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

L3 "Mutual Agreeement" LMAO

Everyone can see you hate Arabs- perhaps even more than the First Amendment- but Palestinians agreed to settlements, having their homes demolished, separate roads, EXACTLY NEVER. It is imposed by the Israeli military.

Even AIPAC wouldn't be so dumb. Where did these talking points come from?

 

[NotInRHouse]

I’ve been rather polite in correcting a number of incorrect posts you have made. Here, you are referencing and article from 2014 citing an incident prior to that date. The article is behind a pay wall but the following is available to the reader:

“An isolated incident snowballed into a wide debate whether Birzeit students' right to a safe space where Israelis are not allowed should apply to leftists, as well.”

I’ve purposely ignored a number of your insults and demeaning attacks weaved within poorly informed statements. I don’t mind engaging in discussion but I’m not going to entertain the ongoing, uncalled for personal insults. Most especially, referring to me as a “queen”, clearly a homophobic slur you’re using to further attack. I believe you have been removed from other boards for similar behavior. Let’s stick to the topic of the thread and the discussion at hand. If you want to post your claims, be prepared for counter arguments where they exist. But please clean up your schtick.

You have not proven one thing I said incorrectly.

In fact, you disproved yourself. L #4.

You said Jews were banned. They weren't...as per your own quote.

Respect is earned. I don't respect people who support felons and antisemities as you do.

What board was I removed from? I see all of your posts showing love for the guy who praises those chanting "Jew will not replace us."

The next post from you that contains a fact and doesn't support Jew hate while attacking Jewish students, Jewish Americans, and the Constitution will be the first.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Yes, it is all for security. Very minor measures considering the Palestinian leaders are calling for the elimination of Israel. Remember, the elimination of Israel means the death of 8 million Jews living in Israel bringing the population of Jews from 0.2% of the world's population down to 0.1%. This is not a solution.

The only thing that's going to work is for the Arabs to stop killing Jews. I used to think the same thing as you. Let's just have all the Jews abandon their settlements and pull out of the West Bank and give the Palestinians a state. However, after doing a little research, I found out this is impossible. Afterall, look what happened when Jews were forcibly removed from their homes in Gaza and Israel pulled out. It was immediately met with violence. Then I found out that Israel offered to pull out of the West Bank and offered a Palestinian state. Each time the offer was made, it was met with violence - the first and second intifadas where the goal was to kill as many Jews as possible. The goal all along of the Palestinian leaders has been the elimination of Israel. I couldn't believe this, but it's not Israel that doesn't want a two state solution, it's the Palestinians that don't want it. They want everything. They don't want equal rights, they want all Jews to be killed.

The situation is hardly anything near what happened in the 1960's. There were some whites that considered blacks to be inferior and wanted segregation. Israel doesn't feel Arabs are inferior, everything is done just merely to survive. Blacks didn't have goal of killing all whites.

I'm glad you understand that Israel has a right to exist, but Israel has done everything thing it can to meet Palestinian demands. The one demand they cannot meet though is to allow themselves to be slaughtered. I also found out that Arabs have been killing Jews since 1920. This is way before there were any settlements or even an Israel. That's when I realized it doesn't matter what the Jews do. They are hated for being Jewish.

So...in a "democracy" one can cite a belief that some are more prone to break laws than others- and get them treated differently? Fascinating stuff. Surely you can name other democratic countries with such conditions?

The leaders in the West Bank nor the rest of the Arab world aside from perhaps Assad are calling to destroy Israel. Saudis are willing to make a peace agreement. Most Jews don't live in Israel in any case.

You have a very one sided narrative. In fact, it was an Israeli who killed a peacemaking Israeli PM that derailed the peace process. The supporter of that terrorist is in the current Israeli cabinet. Not to mention, Israeli murders a ton of innocent Arabs regularly as do settlers in the West Bank.

Do you need quote after quote from Israeli leaders on Arabs or is it easier to start with segregationists herre on security? You pick, whatever you like we can start with.

Israel can easily tell the settlers to leave and subject them to the same punishments it does for Arabs and there would be peace w Arab nations maintaining it. It's literally what they are proposing. That and send their crooked PM to jail where he belongs. It's not too much to ask a country to remain within its borders.

 

[Knight177lb]

So...in a "democracy" one can cite a belief that some are more prone to break laws than others- and get them treated differently? Fascinating stuff. Surely you can name other democratic countries with such conditions?

The leaders in the West Bank nor the rest of the Arab world aside from perhaps Assad are calling to destroy Israel. Saudis are willing to make a peace agreement. Most Jews don't live in Israel in any case.

You have a very one sided narrative. In fact, it was an Israeli who killed a peacemaking Israeli PM that derailed the peace process. The supporter of that terrorist is in the current Israeli cabinet. Not to mention, Israeli murders a ton of innocent Arabs regularly as do settlers in the West Bank.

Do you need quote after quote from Israeli leaders on Arabs or is it easier to start with segregationists herre on security? You pick, whatever you like we can start with.

Israel can easily tell the settlers to leave and subject them to the same punishments it does for Arabs and there would be peace w Arab nations maintaining it. It's literally what they are proposing. That and send their crooked PM to jail where he belongs. It's not too much to ask a country to remain within its borders.

Israel is a democracy. In fact, all Israeli Arabs have a vote and equal rights (including women and gays). In Israel, Arabs have full citizenship and serve in elected positions and even the supreme court. I'm not sure what law you're talking about, but Arabs living in Israel have more freedoms and live better lives than any Arab in any other Middle Eastern country unless of course you're the member of a royal family. In Israel, you can practice any religion you want or not practice at all, it doesn't matter. That's not true in any other Middle Eastern country.

Saudi Arabia was making progress towards normalizing relations, but that has been put on hold thanks to the massacre carried out by Hamas, but even now, MBS has come out against Israel. Go ahead, give me the quotes of all these Muslim leaders that are OK with Israel's existence. Show me how much they would love a two-state solution. I do know the purpose of the BDS movement is the destruction of Israel. I know the stated purpose of Hamas and Hezbollah (which receives support from other Arab nations) is the destruction of Israel.

My narrative isn't one sided, it's the truth that doesn't fit the false Palestinian narrative. Not one inch of land was stolen prior to 1948. When a two-state solution was offered, the Arabs didn't accept it because they would not accept Israel's existence. Their goal was to kill every last Jew in Israel in 1948 as it was in 1967. The first and second intifadas was to kill as many Jews as possible, just like the thousands upon thousands of rockets launched into Israel. Israel never ever, ever, ever attacks unprovoked. Sorry, that's just the truth.

Israel did remove settlers from Gaza and look what they got in return. Would this be any different if done in the West Bank? Israel does not want to be in the West Bank, they would love to leave, but they can't because of security. The settlements there are built on barren wasteland. They don't harm Palestinians at all. Just like I said before, Palestinians killed Jews before the settlements, before there was even an Israel. They kill them because they hate Jews. It doesn't matter what Jews do.

You're very passionate about the subject. I can see you're very upset at what you believe is oppression of Muslims. Let me ask you this. What if there was a country that was a dictatorship and that dictator decided that no Muslim should exist within in its boarders. He then sets up re-education camps for those who disagree. There are 12 million Muslims in the country and two million have disappeared. Would that upset you?

 

[NotInRHouse]

Israel is a democracy. In fact, all Israeli Arabs have a vote and equal rights (including women and gays). In Israel, Arabs have full citizenship and serve in elected positions and even the supreme court. I'm not sure what law you're talking about, but Arabs living in Israel have more freedoms and live better lives than any Arab in any other Middle Eastern country unless of course you're the member of a royal family. In Israel, you can practice any religion you want or not practice at all, it doesn't matter. That's not true in any other Middle Eastern country.

Saudi Arabia was making progress towards normalizing relations, but that has been put on hold thanks to the massacre carried out by Hamas, but even now, MBS has come out against Israel. Go ahead, give me the quotes of all these Muslim leaders that are OK with Israel's existence. Show me how much they would love a two-state solution. I do know the purpose of the BDS movement is the destruction of Israel. I know the stated purpose of Hamas and Hezbollah (which receives support from other Arab nations) is the destruction of Israel.

My narrative isn't one sided, it's the truth that doesn't fit the false Palestinian narrative. Not one inch of land was stolen prior to 1948. When a two-state solution was offered, the Arabs didn't accept it because they would not accept Israel's existence. Their goal was to kill every last Jew in Israel in 1948 as it was in 1967. The first and second intifadas was to kill as many Jews as possible, just like the thousands upon thousands of rockets launched into Israel. Israel never ever, ever, ever attacks unprovoked. Sorry, that's just the truth.

Israel did remove settlers from Gaza and look what they got in return. Would this be any different if done in the West Bank? Israel does not want to be in the West Bank, they would love to leave, but they can't because of security. The settlements there are built on barren wasteland. They don't harm Palestinians at all. Just like I said before, Palestinians killed Jews before the settlements, before there was even an Israel. They kill them because they hate Jews. It doesn't matter what Jews do.

You're very passionate about the subject. I can see you're very upset at what you believe is oppression of Muslims. Let me ask you this. What if there was a country that was a dictatorship and that dictator decided that no Muslim should exist within in its boarders. He then sets up re-education camps for those who disagree. There are 12 million Muslims in the country and two million have disappeared. Would that upset you?

Israel also extends its control to the West Bank. That is where, for example, there are roads based on religion. Even within Israel proper, there isn't the freedom you are claiming- for example, even someone holding themselves out as Jewish must go to Cyprus to get married if rabbis disagree that they're Jewish. Many jobs will require military service even if unrelated to the skills required to eliminate Arab applicants. This is why you're comparing Israel to Iran and not the actual Western democracies with which it proclaims alignment. You don't see Denmark murdering American journalists or Canadian pols claiming French and English speakers need separate delivery rooms, do you?

The dichotomy of "the Arabs" and "the Jews" is problematic. No, all Arabs or Palestinians are not violent or genocidal, nor do all Jews or Israelis believe the insanely bigoted theories that the Israeli gov does. In fact, these days few Arabs and few Jews globally align with the Palestinian or Jewish authorities. Yet they are painted as doing so by the extremes on both sides in a despicable fashion.

Your history is simply incorrect. As we speak, settlers are attacking Palestinian villages. The Israeli gov admits it. It's not in dispute. Again, not all Palestinians hate Jews or anyone else. They hate the occupation. And things change. I am sure there are still people who think "Germans hate Jews" while today Israelis desperately seek German and Polish and other EU citizenships via ancestors that fled pogroms to have an escape route to a real democracy.

There is oppression of Muslims, Jews, Christians and plenty and (frankly, probably mostly) the irreligious globally...I am outraged by Israel murdering Palestinians and several Americans, including a teenager, a grandpa, a journalist wearing a Press vest who was Christian to boot. This has nothing to do with religion. Perhaps you're thinking of China and Burma where Muslims are subject to concentration camps. I condemn them too. But to my knowledge, the US government isn't helping prop up the Burmese regime, nor Xi, nor other genocidal maniacs like Kim or Putin. And there's plenty of outrageous anti-Semitism by the Russian gov as well as consistent attacks on American Jews from the felonious political party as well as those it aided and abetted via stochastic terror. In fact, that's probably my biggest outrage- that myself or a loved one can end up on the other side of the barrel from a lunatic like entered synagogues in Pittsburgh or Poway, or the Capitol on Jan 6 wearing a "Camp Auschwitz" shirt, or the terrorist from Buffalo whose manifesto encouraged an attack on my city because of its Jewish community. So I certainly disagree with those who say Palestine is the only issue, or the biggest- the survival of the US as a pluralistic democracy is the biggest for us as Americans and is for American Jews as well as reflected in polling. That said, I have no issue calling out countries like Israel, Hungary or Venezuela where democracy went out the window that are idolized by those here trying to end ours. If Israel wants to be considered a democracy, it will have to abandon the pretense that "security" allows it to compare itself to Assad and Yemen. If not, it can join those countries in global opinion, and has done so among Americans, including and especially American Jews.

 

[GSGS]

So much wrong in here. Actually just about all of it is wrong. The Oslo Accords are an agreement between Israel and then the PLO in the 1990’s established three different areas in the West Bank. The agreement specifies who will administrate each area and how. Settlements are not illegal. There are Jewish extremists who have murdered Arabs in the West Bank and/Jerusalem who have received life sentences in jail.

This poster writes as if Israel has just forced its will upon the West Bank with no mutual agreement. It’s just more Jewish scapegoating. The facts are both governments have agreed to these terms in the interest of safety of each other. Yes there are different roads just like there are different permissions for the Al Asqa Mosque and the Temple Mount.

Israel is a democracy. In fact, all Israeli Arabs have a vote and equal rights (including women and gays). In Israel, Arabs have full citizenship and serve in elected positions and even the supreme court. I'm not sure what law you're talking about, but Arabs living in Israel have more freedoms and live better lives than any Arab in any other Middle Eastern country unless of course you're the member of a royal family. In Israel, you can practice any religion you want or not practice at all, it doesn't matter. That's not true in any other Middle Eastern country.

Saudi Arabia was making progress towards normalizing relations, but that has been put on hold thanks to the massacre carried out by Hamas, but even now, MBS has come out against Israel. Go ahead, give me the quotes of all these Muslim leaders that are OK with Israel's existence. Show me how much they would love a two-state solution. I do know the purpose of the BDS movement is the destruction of Israel. I know the stated purpose of Hamas and Hezbollah (which receives support from other Arab nations) is the destruction of Israel.

My narrative isn't one sided, it's the truth that doesn't fit the false Palestinian narrative. Not one inch of land was stolen prior to 1948. When a two-state solution was offered, the Arabs didn't accept it because they would not accept Israel's existence. Their goal was to kill every last Jew in Israel in 1948 as it was in 1967. The first and second intifadas was to kill as many Jews as possible, just like the thousands upon thousands of rockets launched into Israel. Israel never ever, ever, ever attacks unprovoked. Sorry, that's just the truth.

Israel did remove settlers from Gaza and look what they got in return. Would this be any different if done in the West Bank? Israel does not want to be in the West Bank, they would love to leave, but they can't because of security. The settlements there are built on barren wasteland. They don't harm Palestinians at all. Just like I said before, Palestinians killed Jews before the settlements, before there was even an Israel. They kill them because they hate Jews. It doesn't matter what Jews do.

You're very passionate about the subject. I can see you're very upset at what you believe is oppression of Muslims. Let me ask you this. What if there was a country that was a dictatorship and that dictator decided that no Muslim should exist within in its boarders. He then sets up re-education camps for those who disagree. There are 12 million Muslims in the country and two million have disappeared. Would that upset you?

You two are wasting your time arguing with NoJewsInMyHouse. He has his own narrative, and no amount of logic will resonate with him.

 

[Knight177lb]

Israel also extends its control to the West Bank. That is where, for example, there are roads based on religion. Even within Israel proper, there isn't the freedom you are claiming- for example, even someone holding themselves out as Jewish must go to Cyprus to get married if rabbis disagree that they're Jewish. Many jobs will require military service even if unrelated to the skills required to eliminate Arab applicants. This is why you're comparing Israel to Iran and not the actual Western democracies with which it proclaims alignment. You don't see Denmark murdering American journalists or Canadian pols claiming French and English speakers need separate delivery rooms, do you?

The dichotomy of "the Arabs" and "the Jews" is problematic. No, all Arabs or Palestinians are not violent or genocidal, nor do all Jews or Israelis believe the insanely bigoted theories that the Israeli gov does. In fact, these days few Arabs and few Jews globally align with the Palestinian or Jewish authorities. Yet they are painted as doing so by the extremes on both sides in a despicable fashion.

Your history is simply incorrect. As we speak, settlers are attacking Palestinian villages. The Israeli gov admits it. It's not in dispute. Again, not all Palestinians hate Jews or anyone else. They hate the occupation. And things change. I am sure there are still people who think "Germans hate Jews" while today Israelis desperately seek German and Polish and other EU citizenships via ancestors that fled pogroms to have an escape route to a real democracy.

There is oppression of Muslims, Jews, Christians and plenty and (frankly, probably mostly) the irreligious globally...I am outraged by Israel murdering Palestinians and several Americans, including a teenager, a grandpa, a journalist wearing a Press vest who was Christian to boot. This has nothing to do with religion. Perhaps you're thinking of China and Burma where Muslims are subject to concentration camps. I condemn them too. But to my knowledge, the US government isn't helping prop up the Burmese regime, nor Xi, nor other genocidal maniacs like Kim or Putin. And there's plenty of outrageous anti-Semitism by the Russian gov as well as consistent attacks on American Jews from the felonious political party as well as those it aided and abetted via stochastic terror. In fact, that's probably my biggest outrage- that myself or a loved one can end up on the other side of the barrel from a lunatic like entered synagogues in Pittsburgh or Poway, or the Capitol on Jan 6 wearing a "Camp Auschwitz" shirt, or the terrorist from Buffalo whose manifesto encouraged an attack on my city because of its Jewish community. So I certainly disagree with those who say Palestine is the only issue, or the biggest- the survival of the US as a pluralistic democracy is the biggest for us as Americans and is for American Jews as well as reflected in polling. That said, I have no issue calling out countries like Israel, Hungary or Venezuela where democracy went out the window that are idolized by those here trying to end ours. If Israel wants to be considered a democracy, it will have to abandon the pretense that "security" allows it to compare itself to Assad and Yemen. If not, it can join those countries in global opinion, and has done so among Americans, including and especially American Jews.

 

[Knight177lb]

While Israel extends its control to the West Bank, they do not want it. They would give it all up in second if it meant they could live side by side in peace. Israel has never ever, ever, ever turned down a land for peace deal, the Palestinians turn it down every time. You're complaining a about a road, and I'm not sure what road you're talking about. Maybe Israel is making a mistake, I don't know, but Israel does provide free water and electricity to Palestinians.

Now, let's say you got what you wanted, and Israel left the West bank? What would happen? I believe the exact same thing that happened in 2005 would happen again, violence. Arabs killing Jews for being Jewish. If the Palestinians laid down their arms, there would be peace today. If Israel lays down its arms, all Jews would be dead in a week.

Almost everything you say is a lie. There are no settlers attacking Palestinians, they just defend themselves when attacked. Stop trying to kill Jews and there will be peace.

I know you hate Israel, but pretending they're not a democracy is ridiculous. You get to spew your hate speech here and nothing happens. You can also criticize Israel either here in America or in Israel because they're both democracies. Try criticizing the government of any middle eastern country while you're inside that country and you'll be put in jail. Israel may not be perfect, but it is a democracy.

The situation I described to you is the genocide of Muslims being committed by Xi in China, but you don't seem to care much. I know you said you did, but you never showed it before or posted about it. It's not even being covered in the news. I wonder why that is? Or right, no Jews, no news.

In your response, you say the US doesn't support China, so there's nothing we can do. Well, we actually do support China quite a bit. We're their biggest trade partner. How about this? Let's have everyone boycott smart phones made in China. Let's start massive protests on colleges across the country where all the students boycott smart phones until China lets its Muslims go. Why don't we do that? Oh right, no Jews involved. Besides, not using a smart phone is way too inconvenient and camping is fun.

 

[NotInRHouse]

While Israel extends its control to the West Bank, they do not want it. They would give it all up in second if it meant they could live side by side in peace. Israel has never ever, ever, ever turned down a land for peace deal, the Palestinians turn it down every time. You're complaining a about a road, and I'm not sure what road you're talking about. Maybe Israel is making a mistake, I don't know, but Israel does provide free water and electricity to Palestinians.

Now, let's say you got what you wanted, and Israel left the West bank? What would happen? I believe the exact same thing that happened in 2005 would happen again, violence. Arabs killing Jews for being Jewish. If the Palestinians laid down their arms, there would be peace today. If Israel lays down its arms, all Jews would be dead in a week.

Almost everything you say is a lie. There are no settlers attacking Palestinians, they just defend themselves when attacked. Stop trying to kill Jews and there will be peace.

I know you hate Israel, but pretending they're not a democracy is ridiculous. You get to spew your hate speech here and nothing happens. You can also criticize Israel either here in America or in Israel because they're both democracies. Try criticizing the government of any middle eastern country while you're inside that country and you'll be put in jail. Israel may not be perfect, but it is a democracy.

The situation I described to you is the genocide of Muslims being committed by Xi in China, but you don't seem to care much. I know you said you did, but you never showed it before or posted about it. It's not even being covered in the news. I wonder why that is? Or right, no Jews, no news.

In your response, you say the US doesn't support China, so there's nothing we can do. Well, we actually do support China quite a bit. We're their biggest trade partner. How about this? Let's have everyone boycott smart phones made in China. Let's start massive protests on colleges across the country where all the students boycott smart phones until China lets its Muslims go. Why don't we do that? Oh right, no Jews involved. Besides, not using a smart phone is way too inconvenient and camping is fun.

The gov of Israel literally allowed, as per its own press, Hamas to be funded to prevent a Palestinian state. This is not even a debatable point.

There a literally settlers MURDERING Palestinians on a consistent basis. It's not even remotely defensive. The violence is on both sides.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/magazine/israel-west-bank-settler-violence-impunity.html

I don't hate Israel, but uh...are you familiar with the First Amendment? There is where the Israel is infallible crowd really goes looney..."you get to spew your hate speech here"....even pretending that were true, you want Israel to be off limits to criticism in this country. How very democratic of you. Yet you want to talk about Iran or whoeever else. We thankfully have the First Amendment, even though the Israel is infallible crowd is typically in favor of the antisemitic felon and his desire to terminate the Constitution.

As Americans, we can hate any country. Personally, I don't, but I defend the rights of anyone who does. For example, most of the Israel is infallible crowd hates basically any country aside from Israel and perhaps Russia and even our own when it's not run by their antisemitic felon party. That is their right. What I do hate is fascist leaders- Putin, Netanyahu, Xi, Kim, Orban, Maduro, Meatball Ron, the adjudicated rapist felon, Erdogan, Abbott...I don't hate the countries or states though. The Venn Diagram of those who say we must boycott Cuba to end communism- that seems to work real well- but say it should be illegal to boycott Israel- is a circle.

Has the topic of China come up before on this board? Only time I can think of is when the Israel is infallible group made your argument and failed- there's been protests on college campuses about the Uighurs, Ukraine and various other human rights issues.

You claim to be concerned about antisemitism- did I miss your posts on the antisemitic attacks on the following:

1. The Jewish President of Ukraine
2. The Jewish President-Elect of Mexico
3. The Jewish Senate Majority Leader
4. The Jewish ex-Presidential candidate and former Kibbutz resident senator from Vermont
5. Michael Cohen
6. Judge Engoron

And then how about the following:

1. Those who say there are "very fine people" on both sides at a rally where "Jew will not replace us" was chanted
2. Those who have dinner with Kayne and Nick Fuentes
3. Those who tell American Jews about "their Prime Minister."
4. Those who say Hezbollah is "very smart."
5. Those who promote the "Great Replacement Theory" that Jews are trying to "replace Americans" with immigrants, as promoted by Elyse Stefanik, Elon Musk and others.

If you or anyone else wishes to boycott China, do it. I am for the First Amendment. Personally, I won't travel there and avoid Chinese goods. What I don't do is cast all Chinese people as responsible for their government as you do with "the Arabs."

 

[NotInRHouse]

You two are wasting your time arguing with NoJewsInMyHouse. He has his own narrative, and no amount of logic will resonate with him.

I thought it was you who made the antisemitic calls trying to doxx Michael Cohen.

It checked the box given you hate Jews and the Constitution.

But then I remembered- mom wouldn't given you phone access.

Shouldn't you be off melting down in the CEsspool and crying that proudly Jewish American prosecutor Joshua Steinglass is locking up your felon rapist god?

 

[Knight177lb]

The gov of Israel literally allowed, as per its own press, Hamas to be funded to prevent a Palestinian state. This is not even a debatable point.

There a literally settlers MURDERING Palestinians on a consistent basis. It's not even remotely defensive. The violence is on both sides.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/magazine/israel-west-bank-settler-violence-impunity.html

I don't hate Israel, but uh...are you familiar with the First Amendment? There is where the Israel is infallible crowd really goes looney..."you get to spew your hate speech here"....even pretending that were true, you want Israel to be off limits to criticism in this country. How very democratic of you. Yet you want to talk about Iran or whoeever else. We thankfully have the First Amendment, even though the Israel is infallible crowd is typically in favor of the antisemitic felon and his desire to terminate the Constitution.

As Americans, we can hate any country. Personally, I don't, but I defend the rights of anyone who does. For example, most of the Israel is infallible crowd hates basically any country aside from Israel and perhaps Russia and even our own when it's not run by their antisemitic felon party. That is their right. What I do hate is fascist leaders- Putin, Netanyahu, Xi, Kim, Orban, Maduro, Meatball Ron, the adjudicated rapist felon, Erdogan, Abbott...I don't hate the countries or states though. The Venn Diagram of those who say we must boycott Cuba to end communism- that seems to work real well- but say it should be illegal to boycott Israel- is a circle.

Has the topic of China come up before on this board? Only time I can think of is when the Israel is infallible group made your argument and failed- there's been protests on college campuses about the Uighurs, Ukraine and various other human rights issues.

You claim to be concerned about antisemitism- did I miss your posts on the antisemitic attacks on the following:

1. The Jewish President of Ukraine
2. The Jewish President-Elect of Mexico
3. The Jewish Senate Majority Leader
4. The Jewish ex-Presidential candidate and former Kibbutz resident senator from Vermont
5. Michael Cohen
6. Judge Engoron

And then how about the following:

1. Those who say there are "very fine people" on both sides at a rally where "Jew will not replace us" was chanted
2. Those who have dinner with Kayne and Nick Fuentes
3. Those who tell American Jews about "their Prime Minister."
4. Those who say Hezbollah is "very smart."
5. Those who promote the "Great Replacement Theory" that Jews are trying to "replace Americans" with immigrants, as promoted by Elyse Stefanik, Elon Musk and others.

If you or anyone else wishes to boycott China, do it. I am for the First Amendment. Personally, I won't travel there and avoid Chinese goods. What I don't do is cast all Chinese people as responsible for their government as you do with "the Arabs."

New York Times - LOL. If Israel blocked funds from reaching Gaza, they would be called murderers. There's literally nothing they can do that satisfy everyone except to stop existing.

Settlers are not allowed to just go around killing people. That is just a flat out lie. If they did and got caught, they would be sent to prison. If a Palestinian murders a Jew, they would be eligible for the Palestinian pension plan. Yes, that's right, the more Jews you kill, the better the pension for your family. If you die while killing Jews, your family gets the most money. This pension system is in effect in both Gaza and the West Bank.

I guess you didn't bother to read my post. I clearly pointed out that you have free speech here because we live in a democracy. You could also travel to Israel and say the exact same things with no repercussions because it is also a democracy. Many citizens in Israel criticize the government and nothing happens to them. If you lived in Gaza and criticized the government, you would be executed without a trial.

I literally said two times in my post that Israel isn't perfect.

OK, you've listed some Jewish people. I guess you're trying to defend your hypocrisy, but does it really do that? When I disagree on something, I comment on it. Now, I don't focus all of my time and energy on one particular conflict just because I hate one of the groups involved while ignoring far greater atrocities at the same time.

You listed a bunch of statements that I don't agree with. I've commented here and there, but none of those quotes has anything to do with countries focused on wiping out an entire race.

I'm glad that you see that Xi is evil and that you won't buy Chinese products. I just wish all the people on college campuses and cities protesting for Hamas would do the same as you. Maybe you're not a hypocrite at all, but the pro-Palestinian protests clearly are hypocritical. They might think about protesting against Saudi Arabia who is responsible for attacks on civilians in Yemen where thousands have died and they put up a blockade. More than 400,000 Yemeni children under 5 years old could die from acute malnutrition before the end of the year. Where's the outrage? Why isn't anyone protesting. We could boycott Saudi oil and watching any Saudi owned sports. I guess that's not as fun as camping.

 

[NealPageNJ]

On the topic of this thread-

I have been informed there was recently a meeting with NJ Jewish leaders, RU Jewish faculty, and RU leadership. Word of mouth information shared with me was the outcome of this meeting was that Rutgers will not expand any part of their relationship with Birzeit University for the foreseeable future. Rutgers is investigating the “no Jewish students and staff” policy of Birzeit university to determine if it will keep the current partnership. I was also informed this partnership, as of now, appears to be more of an “on the books”, “paper agreement” with no real current exchange occurring. From what I have been told it sounds like status quo on this item until more information can be gathered.

Disclaimer for our thread hijacker- none of the info above supports “Jews will not replace us” Charlottesville chants, Nick Fuentes or counters the creation of a peaceful Arab cultural center on RU campus.