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Rutgers-Illinois game thread

With six players I expected this and Hill is very good for Illinois.
 
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we heard you the first 1000 times. you like Daniels & resent Williams for getting positive attention here for doing things other than shooting. sorry the prevailing wisdom disagrees with you

We heard you the first 1000 times. Williams can do no wrong. You resent Daniels, try to make him a scapegoat per the prevailing wisdom.
 
Really, where does the program go from here? ADPH has his work cut out, that's for sure. Staff, roster, facilities all need a complete overhaul.
 
We heard you the first 1000 times. Williams can do no wrong. You resent Daniels, try to make him a scapegoat per the prevailing wisdom.

haha ok. I've chimed in a few times because your act is post-tiresome at this point.

Among the posters on this board, my seat neighbors at the rac, and my group of friends that are fairly basketball savvy & follow RU hoops, you are the ONLY one that chooses to ignore Bishop's turnover tendencies, questionable shot selection & below-average on-ball defense.

he can certainly be a playmaker at times, and he seems like a great kid. but you focus only on his positives & ignore the liabilities, and get mad when others discuss them & lash out at williams in retaliation. why would a true fan lash out like that?

like many I am very disappointed in mike's shooting, but your ignorance of his plus floor game is silly
 
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Mike Williams has tons of heart. If only he had the talent he'd be a very special player.
 
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Your act is pretty tiresome as well. I too sit at the RAC
haha ok. I've chimed in a few times because your act is post-tiresome at this point.

Among the posters on this board, my seat neighbors at the rac, and my group of friends that are fairly basketball savvy & follow RU hoops, you are the ONLY one that chooses to ignore Bishop's turnover tendencies, questionable shot selection & below-average on-ball defense.

he can certainly be a playmaker at times, and he seems like a great kid. but you focus only on his positives & ignore the liabilities, and get mad when others discuss them & lash out at williams in retaliation. why would a true fan lash out like that?

like many I am very disappointed in mike's shooting, but your ignorance of his plus floor game is silly

Ha! You're the one who is tiresome and owe an apoloogy. Only reponding to the Daniels attacks on this board which again unjustifiably started again (Just go back to the beginning of the thread... all there for all fans to see) What kind of RUf an would not defend him? Among the posters on this board, my long time seat neighbors at The RAC and my group of friends who are very basketball savvy, all think Daniels has been getting a raw deal by this board. Amazing how these alleged loyal RU fans lash out at Daniels. I like Williams' hustle, effort and desire and but do question his shooting. Don't make him into some kind of semi-God and continually criticize Daniels and make him the scape goat. Again what RU fans do that?

Oh and by the way, Daniels had an amazing game tonight if your savviness did not notice. Pretty quiet. Good Night and Go RU!
 
Mike Williams hurt us with his shot selection. We took too many shots with 15 seconds on the shot clock we could have had with 5 on the clock. I am starting to sour on Williams asI think he is getting selfish on the offensive end.

Everytime Laurent touched the ball we scored yet there were toomany possessions he didn't get a touch.

Grier should penetrate ONLY to kick it to the perimeter.
 
Just two weeks ago, people were throwing a parade for a triple OT loss, tonight it seems we will be attending a wake
A 20 year season ticket holder and I didn't realize there was a game. How sad is this. The program is imploding.
 
final tempo number was 72.....WHY!!!!

We were down 18-16 with 10 minutes left in 1st half and you could just see offensive possessions starting to go bad. Finally a timeout, but shot selection stayed poor during the 26-7 run.

You know the plan was to slow it down, but the team just couldn't execute.

1 positive is our zone looked OK.
 
Your act is pretty tiresome as well. I too sit at the RAC


Ha! You're the one who is tiresome and owe an apoloogy. Only reponding to the Daniels attacks on this board which again unjustifiably started again (Just go back to the beginning of the thread... all there for all fans to see) What kind of RUf an would not defend him? Among the posters on this board, my long time seat neighbors at The RAC and my group of friends who are very basketball savvy, all think Daniels has been getting a raw deal by this board. Amazing how these alleged loyal RU fans lash out at Daniels. I like Williams' hustle, effort and desire and but do question his shooting. Don't make him into some kind of semi-God and continually criticize Daniels and make him the scape goat. Again what RU fans do that?

Oh and by the way, Daniels had an amazing game tonight if your savviness did not notice. Pretty quiet. Good Night and Go RU!

You're pretty amusing. You insinuate that I only post to attack Daniels? that is ludicrous & incorrect. and nice revision of your assessment of williams, whom you constantly attack for his shooting woes.

I missed the game due to business travel. Is that ok with you?
 
Another problem is our one big picked up a silly foul and went to the bench with fouls and he can't commit any silly fouls because we need him on floor.
 
Grier should penetrate ONLY to kick it to the perimeter.
kick it to who ? lol

there was many decent defensive possessions, agree with that, I can think of few top of head where D/ rotation was very good and they still made a shot under five secs
 
You're pretty amusing. You insinuate that I only post to attack Daniels? that is ludicrous & incorrect. and nice revision of your assessment of williams, whom you constantly attack for his shooting woes.

I missed the game due to business travel. Is that ok with you?

This board including fans like you constantly attacks Daniels. Poorly missed shots just like turnovers. Practice what you preach... when you actually watch the game.
 
Just for comparison on a per-40-min basis:

Daniels: 13.3 pts, 5.9 rbs, 4.1 ast, 3.7 TO, 1.1 a/t ratio
Sanders: 19.3 pts, 3.8 rbs, 4.9 ast, 3.5 TO, 1.4 a/t ratio

Sanders actually turns the ball over almost as much as Daniels, though he has a little better assist/turnover ratio. It's largely forgiven, though, because of the point disparity and his being a freshman.
 
^ can't use a/t ratio when one guy handles the ball 10x as much as the other
 
This board including fans like you constantly attacks Daniels. Poorly missed shots just like turnovers. Practice what you preach... when you actually watch the game.

I've had enough of this back & forth that goes nowhere. one guy shoots 38% and the other shoots 40%. you say "fans like me" based on a few objective posts I made about a player's performance that were in the context of already existing threads. i support Daniels and do not ignore his positives, unlike you who ignore his negatices.

I donate generously to the program & am as loudly supportive of each player as anyone within shouting distance at the rac, but you can give me a hard time because I didn't watch one game while traveling.
 
He also co.pared him to Magic Johnson at a cc meeting
The big buildup might be a precursor to Sanders possibly leaving at the end of the season.One step forward and at least two steps backward is the way the mens basketball program has functioned.
 
Really, where does the program go from here? ADPH has his work cut out, that's for sure. Staff, roster, facilities all need a complete overhaul.
Where is the money and the will to actually make the needed changes?Kicking the can down the road always has been the preferred plan of action.
 
As a team I find the Assist to TO ratio an extremely important statistic.

It shows the ball is being shared and players are passing up open shots to find guys with better shots.

That's winning basketball.
 
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