Rutgers New Brunswick students release a 'terrorist-like' message to their school, demanding that the school cut ties with Israel.

[Knight177lb]

Do you not see a problem with pinning Hamas on all Gazans, or the views of some protesters on all?

You don't state facts. Facts would be for example, Netanyahu helped fund Hamas, he's under investigation for:

1. Altering phone records as to when he was informed of the 11/7 attacks
2. Releasing classified documents that endangered the hostages
3. The Israeli Supreme Court has found his actions could literally starve Gaza

Etc. That is off the top of my head. You don't accept the reality. These are findings by Israelis. What is the issue with them?

The past when? I am a millennial. When in my lifetime were there more synagogue attacks in the US than since 2016?

Yes, I am more concerned with America. Soccer hooligans mocking the death of kids in Gaza, ripping down flags, and then attacking a cab then being attacked themselves is all terrible but won't jeopardize my life like a synagogue shooting would, nor do posters in Rochester, nor the lives of Jewish Americans.

I would say in your case- you admit you are not Jewish or Israeli but are hyper focused on organizations, that, by your own admission, have never launched an attack on US soil, while saying "the Arabs" this and that...yeah...sounds extremely Islamophobic. I'm someone that is a dual citizen, and yet, living here in the US, I am most frightened by, in my view what should be unsurprising- deadly attacks on the US. Of course, I condemn deadly violence wherever it is, but I am most concerned about this country. Why should any American not lead off with that? And it's not like Pittsburgh was exactly a one off, it it was part of a pattern of deadly terrorism brought by believers in the anti-Semitic Great Replacement Theory. Being unconcerned and dismissive of that while trying to lump millions of people, including Jewish Americans, in with terrorist groups on the other side of the world is at best odd. And, you would be quite unhappy if the entire right was lumped in with the Pittsburgh attacker or Jan 6 attackers wearing "Camp Auschwitz" gear, I am quite sure.

Every time I point out racist attacks against Jews, I need to mention Pittsburgh. Got it.

Everyone of your posts keeps bringing up Pittsburgh. I am aware of it, and I have said several times how evil the perpetrator is as well as anyone who sympathizes with him. Somehow, I can't also call racist attacks against Jews in Rochester or Amsterdam (and now Berlin) evil because I didn't say the word Pittsburgh. Racist attacks are evil against any race anywhere.

I have been pretty clear about my criticisms of Hamas and their followers. I have never said that Arabs are evil. That would be racist. Hamas is evil. That is the truth and it's not racist. Stop making things up.

Just because someone came up with a conspiracy theory and wrote it in an article you read, doesn't make it true. I wonder why I've never seen it in the news. In any case, please explain how the whole thing goes. Why did Netanyahu carry out the Oct. 7th attacks to kill 1200 of his own people and turn the whole world against him? How does that work?

When I say the past, I'm talking about the 1920's when the KKK was infested all over the country.

While Hamas has never directly attacked the US, they inspire people everywhere including Rochester which is in the US and there have been other attacks here as well. It's not just a Europe thing. All these protests waving Hamas flags and chanting "We will honor all of our martyrs" are just spreading lies and encouraging violence. I would think that you would be against that.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Every time I point out racist attacks against Jews, I need to mention Pittsburgh. Got it.

Everyone of your posts keeps bringing up Pittsburgh. I am aware of it, and I have said several times how evil the perpetrator is as well as anyone who sympathizes with him. Somehow, I can't also call racist attacks against Jews in Rochester or Amsterdam (and now Berlin) evil because I didn't say the word Pittsburgh. Racist attacks are evil against any race anywhere.

I have been pretty clear about my criticisms of Hamas and their followers. I have never said that Arabs are evil. That would be racist. Hamas is evil. That is the truth and it's not racist. Stop making things up.

Just because someone came up with a conspiracy theory and wrote it in an article you read, doesn't make it true. I wonder why I've never seen it in the news. In any case, please explain how the whole thing goes. Why did Netanyahu carry out the Oct. 7th attacks to kill 1200 of his own people and turn the whole world against him? How does that work?

When I say the past, I'm talking about the 1920's when the KKK was infested all over the country.

While Hamas has never directly attacked the US, they inspire people everywhere including Rochester which is in the US and there have been other attacks here as well. It's not just a Europe thing. All these protests waving Hamas flags and chanting "We will honor all of our martyrs" are just spreading lies and encouraging violence. I would think that you would be against that.

Do you not think it's odd for an American to ignore incidents of violence in this country, but be hyperfocused on places to which they have no connection? I'm a citizen of an EU country. I'm more worried about Pittsburgh than soccer hooligans.

You have used language like "the Arabs" many times. Do I need to quote the posts?

Are you saying that mainstream Israeli newspapers are engaged in an anti-Israel conspiracy? Should I post the links again? As you have admitted, you read mostly right wing sources. Not all Israeli media is right wing. Either explain how Israeli media is working for Hamas and part of a conspiracy theory, or just admit you're making it up.

Netanyahu's Chief of Staff suspected of altering PM's call logs from morning of Oct. 7

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www.haaretz.com

https://www.timesofisrael.com/pms-aides-said-suspected-of-blackmailing-idf-officer-to-alter-records-from-oct-7/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-netanyahu-advisor-urich-questioned-for-second-time-in-document-leak-case/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

OK. How about 2018? Is that too long ago?

Hamas is inspiring people? OK. Where is the protest at Rochester waving Hamas flags?

Inspiration seems more like...the Pittsburgh shooter promoting the Great Replacement and politicians doing it. You know...the same polticians you refuse to condemn?

 

[Knight177lb]

Do you not think it's odd for an American to ignore incidents of violence in this country, but be hyperfocused on places to which they have no connection? I'm a citizen of an EU country. I'm more worried about Pittsburgh than soccer hooligans.

You have used language like "the Arabs" many times. Do I need to quote the posts?

Are you saying that mainstream Israeli newspapers are engaged in an anti-Israel conspiracy? Should I post the links again? As you have admitted, you read mostly right wing sources. Not all Israeli media is right wing. Either explain how Israeli media is working for Hamas and part of a conspiracy theory, or just admit you're making it up.

Netanyahu's Chief of Staff suspected of altering PM's call logs from morning of Oct. 7

***

www.haaretz.com

https://www.timesofisrael.com/pms-aides-said-suspected-of-blackmailing-idf-officer-to-alter-records-from-oct-7/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-netanyahu-advisor-urich-questioned-for-second-time-in-document-leak-case/

http://ped-up-hamas-nowhttps://www....ars-netanyahu-prop-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

OK. How about 2018? Is that too long ago?

Hamas is inspiring people? OK. Where is the protest at Rochester waving Hamas flags?

Inspiration seems more like...the Pittsburgh shooter promoting the Great Replacement and politicians doing it. You know...the same polticians you refuse to condemn?

Who's ignoring Pittsburgh? It was an evil act. Hamas is still evil. Your whataboutism logic doesn't work. Just because Pittsburgh happened, doesn't mean that Hamas should be allowed to carry out their goal of killing every Jew in Israel which is about 8 million people.

Whites owned slaves. Does that mean all whites owned slaves? No. Am I racist for saying that? I think I've been very clear that the real enemy is Hamas. I know the left's strategy is to call anyone defending Israel racist, but your logic doesn't work again. I'm not racist for calling Hamas evil.

I'm just saying that Hamas was going to attack no matter who's PM. Doesn't matter who it is or what they do, but let's say you were the PM of Israel prior to 10/7 and you had the ability to cut off all funds going to Gaza (which is Hamas since they control everything). Would you cut off all funds?

For a moment, imagine if everything going on in Rochester and Amsterdam were targeting another race like Asians or Blacks just on the basis of their race? Would you care?

Spreading lies or repeating the false narrative breeds hate and hate breeds violence.

I believe that any politician promoting the Great Replacement theory is evil. I never refused to condemn anyone who believes in that horse shit.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Who's ignoring Pittsburgh? It was an evil act. Hamas is still evil. Your whataboutism logic doesn't work. Just because Pittsburgh happened, doesn't mean that Hamas should be allowed to carry out their goal of killing every Jew in Israel which is about 8 million people.

Whites owned slaves. Does that mean all whites owned slaves? No. Am I racist for saying that? I think I've been very clear that the real enemy is Hamas. I know the left's strategy is to call anyone defending Israel racist, but your logic doesn't work again. I'm not racist for calling Hamas evil.

I'm just saying that Hamas was going to attack no matter who's PM. Doesn't matter who it is or what they do, but let's say you were the PM of Israel prior to 10/7 and you had the ability to cut off all funds going to Gaza (which is Hamas since they control everything). Would you cut off all funds?

For a moment, imagine if everything going on in Rochester and Amsterdam were targeting another race like Asians or Blacks just on the basis of their race? Would you care?

Spreading lies or repeating the false narrative breeds hate and hate breeds violence.

I believe that any politician promoting the Great Replacement theory is evil. I never refused to condemn anyone who believes in that horse shit.

Who is saying Hamas is allowed anything? Condemning erasing 10/7 phone records or bombing aid convoys somehow exculpates Hamas? No, it's just you want Israel to be above criticism. Just say that.

I didn't say you were racist. Islam isn't a race. Arab isn't a race.

You like arguing with yourself, because wrestling with the facts, as provided by Israeli media, voids the "Israel is above criticism" narrative. Netanyahu's aide was just indicted for releasing classified documents endangering the hostages. Any comment on that? You can't blame Hamas or the media. This is Israeli Jews indicting Israeli Jews for something you claim isn't happening.

I would not have funded Hamas to make the PA look bad, no. And every other non-current Israeli PM agrees.

Amsterdam and Rochester. But not Columbus, huh? Swastikas marching through the streets last week. No comment. But soccer hooligans- oh that's a comment. And then you wonder why anyone can draw a bigoted narrative from your commentary?

Could it because what is happening in Columbus jives with your political narrative...but the facts in Amsterdam deal with a bunch of idiotic soccer fans and idiot cab drivers being spun into something you prefer?

Hate to break it to you as to Rochester, but given your goal and the goal of those folks aligned a few weeks ago, college protests on this issue are probably done. So it will need to be a new narrative. One with distance from Columbus. Good luck! Not to mention, the Israeli media and Israeli judiciary are much less cowed in the face of fascism than ours, which is bad news for those that want to hold the Israeli gov above criticism. The indictments will keep rolling over there and they will be covered.

 

[Knight177lb]

Who is saying Hamas is allowed anything? Condemning erasing 10/7 phone records or bombing aid convoys somehow exculpates Hamas? No, it's just you want Israel to be above criticism. Just say that.

I didn't say you were racist. Islam isn't a race. Arab isn't a race.

You like arguing with yourself, because wrestling with the facts, as provided by Israeli media, voids the "Israel is above criticism" narrative. Netanyahu's aide was just indicted for releasing classified documents endangering the hostages. Any comment on that? You can't blame Hamas or the media. This is Israeli Jews indicting Israeli Jews for something you claim isn't happening.

I would not have funded Hamas to make the PA look bad, no. And every other non-current Israeli PM agrees.

Amsterdam and Rochester. But not Columbus, huh? Swastikas marching through the streets last week. No comment. But soccer hooligans- oh that's a comment. And then you wonder why anyone can draw a bigoted narrative from your commentary?

Could it because what is happening in Columbus jives with your political narrative...but the facts in Amsterdam deal with a bunch of idiotic soccer fans and idiot cab drivers being spun into something you prefer?

Hate to break it to you as to Rochester, but given your goal and the goal of those folks aligned a few weeks ago, college protests on this issue are probably done. So it will need to be a new narrative. One with distance from Columbus. Good luck! Not to mention, the Israeli media and Israeli judiciary are much less cowed in the face of fascism than ours, which is bad news for those that want to hold the Israeli gov above criticism. The indictments will keep rolling over there and they will be covered.

Noe-Nazis marching in Columbus is evil. I hadn't heard about it yet when I replied. Yes, there is racism all over and it's all evil. By the way, the neo-Nazis hate Jews as well. They view Jews not only lower than all other races, but as not even human at all. Did you think I was a fan just because I didn't comment on them? Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran also share the same opinion as Neo-Nazi's. This goes all the way back to the leader of the Arabs, Muhammad Hajj Amin Husseini, who collaborated with Hitler in the early 40's to murder all the Jews in Israel on an industrial scale like the Nazis were doing.

So you wouldn't have funded Hamas if you were PM of Israel? This would mean cutting off all funding going into Gaza. How would they eat? How would they live? Now you're accused of genocide. What's your next move?

I don't have a political narrative. I just think racism is evil. All of it. I never blew off what's happening in Columbus. You on the other hand, are going to great lengths to try and convince everyone that Amsterdam is just some silly soccer fans. This is how it all starts, by spreading lies about Jews. All these protests are spreading the lie that Jews are committing genocide. People start using violence against Jews and everyone looks away because after all, they have all the money and probably deserve it anyway.

College protests are far from being over. They'll keep going on spreading lies.

Netanyahu is not above criticism and I never said he's perfect. He has many critics in Israel. You're trying to make the point that Israel doesn't have democracy because they have democracy. It doesn't make any sense.

Hamas is trying to kill all Jews. They make that very clear. Israel just simply wants to exist. Hamas demands that Israel immediately stop fighting and let them kill everyone. Do you expect Israel to meet their demands?

 

[NotInRHouse]

Noe-Nazis marching in Columbus is evil. I hadn't heard about it yet when I replied. Yes, there is racism all over and it's all evil. By the way, the neo-Nazis hate Jews as well. They view Jews not only lower than all other races, but as not even human at all. Did you think I was a fan just because I didn't comment on them? Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran also share the same opinion as Neo-Nazi's. This goes all the way back to the leader of the Arabs, Muhammad Hajj Amin Husseini, who collaborated with Hitler in the early 40's to murder all the Jews in Israel on an industrial scale like the Nazis were doing.

So you wouldn't have funded Hamas if you were PM of Israel? This would mean cutting off all funding going into Gaza. How would they eat? How would they live? Now you're accused of genocide. What's your next move?

I don't have a political narrative. I just think racism is evil. All of it. I never blew off what's happening in Columbus. You on the other hand, are going to great lengths to try and convince everyone that Amsterdam is just some silly soccer fans. This is how it all starts, by spreading lies about Jews. All these protests are spreading the lie that Jews are committing genocide. People start using violence against Jews and everyone looks away because after all, they have all the money and probably deserve it anyway.

College protests are far from being over. They'll keep going on spreading lies.

Netanyahu is not above criticism and I never said he's perfect. He has many critics in Israel. You're trying to make the point that Israel doesn't have democracy because they have democracy. It doesn't make any sense.

Hamas is trying to kill all Jews. They make that very clear. Israel just simply wants to exist. Hamas demands that Israel immediately stop fighting and let them kill everyone. Do you expect Israel to meet their demands?

You didn't hear about it because as you mentioned you follow biased news sources. Let's think: why don't they want you to know about Columbus- I have some ideas!

If I was PM of Israel, I would tell the settlers to get out and work with Arab nations to provide security to Gaza and West Bank and let them go in peace. So it wouldn't be an issue. There'd be a peace deal where Israel and KSA recognize one another and they can administer the WB and Gaza, or Jordan, or some conglomeration of other Arab nations.

How are Jewish protesters accusing all Jews of committing genocide? That fact is always absent from your analysis.

Where are these college protests still happening?

BTW, you know now Netanyahu is trying to shut down Israeli newspapers like Haaretz for reporting on his crimes....where have we seen that?

Israel has negotiated with Hamas over the decades. So I do expect there, whether via negotiation or other tactic, to be more than cursory effort to release the hostages. Releasing classified information to advance political narratives and hurt the hostages deserves condemnation. Surely if it was here people would be furious.

 

[Knight177lb]

You didn't hear about it because as you mentioned you follow biased news sources. Let's think: why don't they want you to know about Columbus- I have some ideas!

If I was PM of Israel, I would tell the settlers to get out and work with Arab nations to provide security to Gaza and West Bank and let them go in peace. So it wouldn't be an issue. There'd be a peace deal where Israel and KSA recognize one another and they can administer the WB and Gaza, or Jordan, or some conglomeration of other Arab nations.

How are Jewish protesters accusing all Jews of committing genocide? That fact is always absent from your analysis.

Where are these college protests still happening?

BTW, you know now Netanyahu is trying to shut down Israeli newspapers like Haaretz for reporting on his crimes....where have we seen that?

Israel has negotiated with Hamas over the decades. So I do expect there, whether via negotiation or other tactic, to be more than cursory effort to release the hostages. Releasing classified information to advance political narratives and hurt the hostages deserves condemnation. Surely if it was here people would be furious.

When did I ever tell you about a biased news sources that I listen to you? I told you before that I have the news feed in my MSN browser home page and I watch the CBS Evening News with Nora O'Donnel. Are these news sources biased?

First of all, there are no settlers in Gaza. Second, the leaders of every Arab nation wants the same thing that Hamas does, the death of all Jews in Israel. That would be impossible to work with. What's your next move?

I've told you before, there are Jews here in America, saying there is genocide because they don't know the truth. I was someone who also didn't know the truth until I did some research on my own.

There were just hundreds of protests on October 7th to celebrate the death of Jews and protests continue. There are too many links to post all of them.
https://www.wmar2news.com/local/jud...mpus-during-oct-7-anniversary#google_vignette

https://www.claremontindependent.co...n-one-year-anniversary-of-october-7th-attacks

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/11/10/pro-hamas-protesters-college-campuses/

Releasing the prisoners would be a great start towards peace. I'll believe it when I see it, but Hamas could have done this a long time ago. They also could have never attacked in the first place. The problem is that they don't want peace and would like more Palestinians to get killed.

 

[NotInRHouse]

When did I ever tell you about a biased news sources that I listen to you? I told you before that I have the news feed in my MSN browser home page and I watch the CBS Evening News with Nora O'Donnel. Are these news sources biased?

First of all, there are no settlers in Gaza. Second, the leaders of every Arab nation wants the same thing that Hamas does, the death of all Jews in Israel. That would be impossible to work with. What's your next move?

I've told you before, there are Jews here in America, saying there is genocide because they don't know the truth. I was someone who also didn't know the truth until I did some research on my own.

There were just hundreds of protests on October 7th to celebrate the death of Jews and protests continue. There are too many links to post all of them.
https://www.wmar2news.com/local/jud...mpus-during-oct-7-anniversary#google_vignette

https://www.claremontindependent.co...n-one-year-anniversary-of-october-7th-attacks

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/11/10/pro-hamas-protesters-college-campuses/

Releasing the prisoners would be a great start towards peace. I'll believe it when I see it, but Hamas could have done this a long time ago. They also could have never attacked in the first place. The problem is that they don't want peace and would like more Palestinians to get killed.

A news aggregator like MSN feeds what you click- that is what it designed for.

Every Arab leader wants Israel ruined...but yet several signed peace eals?

So you know better than Jewish Americans about their existence?

You realize Netanyahu (as per Israeli media and courts) jeopardized the hostage release?

 

[NealPageNJ]

If I was PM of Israel, I would tell the settlers to get out and work with Arab nations to provide security to Gaza and West Bank and let them go in peace. So it wouldn't be an issue. There'd be a peace deal where Israel and KSA recognize one another and they can administer the WB and Gaza, or Jordan, or some conglomeration of other Arab nations.

Westerner (Tik tok) dream here. Just because a group of people have the same skin color doesn’t mean they will get along. Long standing tribal fueds continue except when the opportunity to kill Jews arrives. Jordan has already kicked out the modern day Palestinians. If Jordan were to take the West Bank they would immediately rid the area of Palestinians. “Remove the settlers.” Yes that happened in Gaza in 2005 and here we are. Saudi’s Arabia wants nothing to do with this issue. They along with Egypt have no interest intervening or taking in the people of the region. The modern day Palestinian is the orphan of the Arab nations. The former day Palestinians, before Arafat, are long gone. Some forced out to other countries. Many sold their land (made lots of money) and relocated to places like UAE, KSA, USA, Canada and are living rather comfortable lives generations in. The modern day Palestinians ultimately chooses to stay and fight Israel and kill Jews. Choose may be an incorrect term as decades of terrorism has caused the modern day Palestinians to become rather unwelcomed in surrounding nations, this also orphaning them where they are.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Westerner (Tik tok) dream here. Just because a group of people have the same skin color doesn’t mean they will get along. Long standing tribal fueds continue except when the opportunity to kill Jews arrives. Jordan has already kicked out the modern day Palestinians. If Jordan were to take the West Bank they would immediately rid the area of Palestinians. “Remove the settlers.” Yes that happened in Gaza in 2005 and here we are. Saudi’s Arabia wants nothing to do with this issue. They along with Egypt have no interest intervening or taking in the people of the region. The modern day Palestinian is the orphan of the Arab nations. The former day Palestinians, before Arafat, are long gone. Some forced out to other countries. Many sold their land (made lots of money) and relocated to places like UAE, KSA, USA, Canada and are living rather comfortable lives generations in. The modern day Palestinians ultimately chooses to stay and fight Israel and kill Jews. Choose may be an incorrect term as decades of terrorism has caused the modern day Palestinians to become rather unwelcomed in surrounding nations, this also orphaning them where they are.

Again, you accuse "the modern day Palestinian people" of murder and bigotry. You just can't help yourself. If someone accused "modern day Jewish people" of anything you would be justifiably outraged, unless of course, it was accusing them of causing an election loss, which is totally fine! Or falsely accusing "liberal Jews" of organizing violence, in which case you get an ambassadorship.

There is a big difference in what you have stated, that the Palestinian people should just be kicked out and sent to other countries (again, which you inveigh against when it's suggested Israeli people leave, which I agree they shouldn't as much as they are increasingly packing up given their horrific government on their own) versus an Arab country governing their territory. The Saudis are very eager to show they are abandoning their bonesaw and stoning past, even if it isn't 100% true, and have said they are willing to recognize Israel in exchange for a security agreement with the US, which both parties here have expressed interest in. That could include the Saudis guaranteeing Palestinian security, and would be a win for everyone.

Glad you finally realized "here we are" after the settlements- as the report commissioned by the hostage families indicates, the far right lunatic Israeli gov's focus on the settlements and protecting settlers, who by the way, 15% alone have American citizenship, led to the tragedy of 10/7, among Netanyahu's funding, illegal leaks to hurt the hostages, altered phone records and other assorted crimes to speak only of the domestic ones.

Hopefully the Israelis get to have a free and fair election and get a real leader not beholden to settler terrorists who will sit down and negotiate with the Saudis and Western parties in good faith and get it done.

 

[NealPageNJ]

Again, you accuse "the modern day Palestinian people" of murder and bigotry. You just can't help yourself. If someone accused "modern day Jewish people" of anything you would be justifiably outraged, unless of course, it was accusing them of causing an election loss, which is totally fine! Or falsely accusing "liberal Jews" of organizing violence, in which case you get an ambassadorship.

There is a big difference in what you have stated, that the Palestinian people should just be kicked out and sent to other countries (again, which you inveigh against when it's suggested Israeli people leave, which I agree they shouldn't as much as they are increasingly packing up given their horrific government on their own) versus an Arab country governing their territory. The Saudis are very eager to show they are abandoning their bonesaw and stoning past, even if it isn't 100% true, and have said they are willing to recognize Israel in exchange for a security agreement with the US, which both parties here have expressed interest in. That could include the Saudis guaranteeing Palestinian security, and would be a win for everyone.

Glad you finally realized "here we are" after the settlements- as the report commissioned by the hostage families indicates, the far right lunatic Israeli gov's focus on the settlements and protecting settlers, who by the way, 15% alone have American citizenship, led to the tragedy of 10/7, among Netanyahu's funding, illegal leaks to hurt the hostages, altered phone records and other assorted crimes to speak only of the domestic ones.

Hopefully the Israelis get to have a free and fair election and get a real leader not beholden to settler terrorists who will sit down and negotiate with the Saudis and Western parties in good faith and get it done.

Lots of false assumptions and gibberish here. As usual plenty short on facts.

Can we go back to this plan you have proposed. Which Arab nations are waiting patiently to administer Gaza and the West Bank? Who are the Arab nations who can’t wait to be a part of this conglomerate? Then I’d love to know which of the Arab tribal factions throughout Gaza, Lebanon, and West Bank are looking forward to being administered upon by these foreign nations……..and all in a peaceful manner.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Lots of false assumptions and gibberish here. As usual plenty short on facts.

Can we go back to this plan you have proposed. Which Arab nations are waiting patiently to administer Gaza and the West Bank? Who are the Arab nations who can’t wait to be a part of this conglomerate? Then I’d love to know which of the Arab tribal factions throughout Gaza, Lebanon, and West Bank are looking forward to being administered upon by these foreign nations……..and all in a peaceful manner.

Let's start with why it's OK to call "the modern day Palestinian people" responsible for "killing Jews". What would be your reaction to flipping Palestinians and Jews in that sentence? You'd be screaming. Of course, both would be horrible, but you're only mad at one showing what a hypocrite you are.

You realize Saudis already agreed in principle to what I have outlined, subject to a security agreement with the US and Israeli agreement, right? Both parties in the US are on board with it, so of course you know who has refused...ah yes, the indictee, and can't even blame the one that lives in a country club on this one...

 

[NealPageNJ]

Let's start with why it's OK to call "the modern day Palestinian people" responsible for "killing Jews". What would be your reaction to flipping Palestinians and Jews in that sentence? You'd be screaming. Of course, both would be horrible, but you're only mad at one showing what a hypocrite you are.

You realize Saudis already agreed in principle to what I have outlined, subject to a security agreement with the US and Israeli agreement, right? Both parties in the US are on board with it, so of course you know who has refused...ah yes, the indictee, and can't even blame the one that lives in a country club on this one...

Please go on with this plan to bring peace that you have and nobody else in history has solved. Saudi Arabia has already agreed to administer Gaza? The West Bank? Both? Or have they agreed to lead the Arab conglomerate you speak of? And which group in these areas agreed? Hamas? Islamic Jihaad? Hezbollah? Palestinian Authority’s? All of them? Tell us a little more please.

 

[Knight177lb]

A news aggregator like MSN feeds what you click- that is what it designed for.

Every Arab leader wants Israel ruined...but yet several signed peace eals?

So you know better than Jewish Americans about their existence?

You realize Netanyahu (as per Israeli media and courts) jeopardized the hostage release?

My MSN feeds me everything, both left and right. I guess I'm reading both sides of the story.

What Arab leader signed a peace deal? I think Yasser Arafat might have, but never really meant it and started having Jews slaughtered anyway.

I know that anyone supporting anti-Israel protests doesn't know the whole truth. Doesn't matter what race they are.

Getting the hostages released is very difficult. There's going to be lots of disagreement on what the best way to do it is. Dealing with a terrorist group whose loftiest goal is to kill all Jews isn't easy.

 

[NotInRHouse]

My MSN feeds me everything, both left and right. I guess I'm reading both sides of the story.

What Arab leader signed a peace deal? I think Yasser Arafat might have, but never really meant it and started having Jews slaughtered anyway.

I know that anyone supporting anti-Israel protests doesn't know the whole truth. Doesn't matter what race they are.

Getting the hostages released is very difficult. There's going to be lots of disagreement on what the best way to do it is. Dealing with a terrorist group whose loftiest goal is to kill all Jews isn't easy.

It is neglecting Israeli media apparently.

Leaders of Jordan and EGypt. UAE, Morocco and Bahrain established relations. I have been to Egypt and Morocco, and Jewish history features prominently at tourist sites in both.

Again, the question is, are Jewish Americans calling for their own destruction by simply protesting Israel? How about Jewish Americans who support the 1A?

Does the Israeli court system misunderstand the hostage situation?

 

[NotInRHouse]

Please go on with this plan to bring peace that you have and nobody else in history has solved. Saudi Arabia has already agreed to administer Gaza? The West Bank? Both? Or have they agreed to lead the Arab conglomerate you speak of? And which group in these areas agreed? Hamas? Islamic Jihaad? Hezbollah? Palestinian Authority’s? All of them? Tell us a little more please.

Sure. I have the link to the article.

I'll share it as soon as you can explain how "the modern day Palestinian people" are collectively responsible for "killing Jews."

And then explain how it would be acceptable to flip Jews and Palestinians in your remark and not be bigoted.

 

[Knight177lb]

It is neglecting Israeli media apparently.

Leaders of Jordan and EGypt. UAE, Morocco and Bahrain established relations. I have been to Egypt and Morocco, and Jewish history features prominently at tourist sites in both.

Again, the question is, are Jewish Americans calling for their own destruction by simply protesting Israel? How about Jewish Americans who support the 1A?

Does the Israeli court system misunderstand the hostage situation?

No, I see Israel media. Some of it is critical of Netanyahu and some of it isn't. Once again, you're saying that Israel doesn't have democracy because they have democracy. It makes no sense.

Egypt has had a peace treaty with Israel since 1979. Egypt doesn't attack Israel and Israel doesn't attack Egypt. It works great and peace can be achieved, but Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran don't want that. They wany all Jews dead.

There are many Jews protesting against Israel that don't know the whole truth. Many are like Bernie Sanders. They believe that Israel has a right to exist, but they are unaware that the goal of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran is to kill every last Jew. They are unaware that a two-state solution has been offered five times and turned down by the Palestinian leadership each time. They are unaware that Hamas will not stop killing Jews until there are none left. There are many Palestinians that have escaped Hamas and are hiding out in America telling the truth about Hamas. You should listen to them. I know the official stance of the left is to hate Israel, but you don't have to go along with their playbook. You don't have to try and freeze the kicker. Use logic instead and win the game. You can still be a good liberal, but do some research and find out the whole truth.

 

[NotInRHouse]

No, I see Israel media. Some of it is critical of Netanyahu and some of it isn't. Once again, you're saying that Israel doesn't have democracy because they have democracy. It makes no sense.

Egypt has had a peace treaty with Israel since 1979. Egypt doesn't attack Israel and Israel doesn't attack Egypt. It works great and peace can be achieved, but Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran don't want that. They wany all Jews dead.

There are many Jews protesting against Israel that don't know the whole truth. Many are like Bernie Sanders. They believe that Israel has a right to exist, but they are unaware that the goal of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran is to kill every last Jew. They are unaware that a two-state solution has been offered five times and turned down by the Palestinian leadership each time. They are unaware that Hamas will not stop killing Jews until there are none left. There are many Palestinians that have escaped Hamas and are hiding out in America telling the truth about Hamas. You should listen to them. I know the official stance of the left is to hate Israel, but you don't have to go along with their playbook. You don't have to try and freeze the kicker. Use logic instead and win the game. You can still be a good liberal, but do some research and find out the whole truth.

Having a critical media doesn't mean the country is a democracy. Even Russia has some critical media.

There is nothing "liberal" or "the left" about respecting the judgment of Israelis or American Jews. You want to replace the judgment of yourself, a non-Jewish American, for that of someone like Bernie, a Jewish American who lived in Israel. I would say that is absurd. It used to be conservatism meant sticking up for the First Amendment and respecting the judgment of others. What happened?

 

[Knight177lb]

Putin does not have critical media within Russia. Anyone who spoke out against him and remained in Russia is dead. he even killed some outside of Russia.

How about respecting the judgement of Muslims like Hassan Yousef or Raheem Kassan or one of the many others who have escaped Sharia Law and exposed Hamas for what it really is, an organization that will not stop killing Jews until there are none left?

I think Bernie and you might be delusional. You think that Israel is allowed to defend itself, but only gently. That's not going to work though. Hamas is very clear about their ambitions to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews. Yahya Sinwar said "Palestinian deaths are a necessary sacrifice". Can you imagine what the world would say if Netanyahu said that? I just think you and Bernie aren't listening to Hamas and don't realize they're using innocent children as shields.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Putin does not have critical media within Russia. Anyone who spoke out against him and remained in Russia is dead. he even killed some outside of Russia.

How about respecting the judgement of Muslims like Hassan Yousef or Raheem Kassan or one of the many others who have escaped Sharia Law and exposed Hamas for what it really is, an organization that will not stop killing Jews until there are none left?

I think Bernie and you might be delusional. You think that Israel is allowed to defend itself, but only gently. That's not going to work though. Hamas is very clear about their ambitions to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews. Yahya Sinwar said "Palestinian deaths are a necessary sacrifice". Can you imagine what the world would say if Netanyahu said that? I just think you and Bernie aren't listening to Hamas and don't realize they're using innocent children as shields.

There actually is critical media, it's just very small. There is critical media in most countries other than North Korea.

What you see though is gov effort to clamp down- just like Israel is doing with Haaretz.

Haaretz petitions Israel's High Court to reverse Netanyahu government's boycott of paper

***

www.haaretz.com

And he's on trial for trying to bribe media sources.

LOL. Raheem Kassam. Oh this is TOO GOOD.

1) He escaped "Sharia Law"....he was born in London. All the women I saw in mini skirts in bars there...were they unaware of Sharia Law?
2) From his Wikipedia page:

Kassam was born in the Hammersmith Hospital in White City, West London. His parents were Tanzanian Muslim immigrants of Indian origin from Hillingdon.[1] He was raised an Ismaili Shia Muslim but wrote in 2016 that he had not been a practising Muslim for over a decade. Kassam was formerly an atheist,[citation needed] stating that Christopher Hitchens' rejection of religious faith ("religions are versions of the same untruth") inspired him.[9] Kassam was educated at Bishopshalt School, a state comprehensive school in Uxbridge and the independent[10] St Helen's College, Hillingdon, and then studied politics at the University of Westminster.[11]

Kassam briefly worked for the defunct American financial services firm Lehman Brothers before it went bankrupt in 2008.[12]

So...he has never lived in any country but the UK or US. His parents and their ancestors never lived in Palestine, or even a majority Muslim country at all. And he was never a practising Muslim.

Now, you're probably thinking....what kind of an idiot names a non-Palestinian, non-Muslim who never lived in any kind of a Muslim country to advance an argument that he can substitute his non-Jewish views for those of Jews because of (supposed) Muslim views?

But it gets SO much worse for you.

3) Kassam's activity on social media has attracted negative attention. In June 2016 he posted a tweet (later deleted) suggesting First Minister of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon should have her "mouth taped shut. And her legs, so she can't reproduce".

Just so I understand this, it's only "the left" and Muslims not upholding the rights of women?

Kassam's activity on social media has attracted negative attention. In June 2016 he posted a tweet (later deleted) suggesting First Minister of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon should have her "mouth taped shut. And her legs, so she can't reproduce".

Being delusional is perhaps the one topic you can speak to.

You're not Jewish, you've never set a toe in the Middle East, Israel or otherwise- but think your judgment is superior to that of a Jewish American who lived on a kibbutz.

Which is the definition of anti-Semitism.

But to top it off, you think your judgment is superior when you cited the judgment of a "Muslim who escaped Hamas" being a right wing pundit who:

- Isn't Muslim
- Never lived in Palestine
- Never lived in a non-Western country

LOL.

Congrats. I have seen some incredible examples of far right brainwashing (light rinsing, really) on this site, but the claim that a non-Muslim, British-born of Indian and Tanzanian heritage, racist, misogynist, right wing pundit of zero Palestinian heritage "escaped Sharia Law and exposed Hamas" is...*chef's kiss*. Top 5 example, and have bookmarked this so you forever get the credit.

And this was in the same post claiming why your judgment on Israel is better than a Jewish American who lived there ROFLMAO!!!!

 

[Knight177lb]

There actually is critical media, it's just very small. There is critical media in most countries other than North Korea.

What you see though is gov effort to clamp down- just like Israel is doing with Haaretz.

Haaretz petitions Israel's High Court to reverse Netanyahu government's boycott of paper

***

www.haaretz.com

And he's on trial for trying to bribe media sources.

LOL. Raheem Kassam. Oh this is TOO GOOD.

1) He escaped "Sharia Law"....he was born in London. All the women I saw in mini skirts in bars there...were they unaware of Sharia Law?
2) From his Wikipedia page:

Kassam was born in the Hammersmith Hospital in White City, West London. His parents were Tanzanian Muslim immigrants of Indian origin from Hillingdon.[1] He was raised an Ismaili Shia Muslim but wrote in 2016 that he had not been a practising Muslim for over a decade. Kassam was formerly an atheist,[citation needed] stating that Christopher Hitchens' rejection of religious faith ("religions are versions of the same untruth") inspired him.[9] Kassam was educated at Bishopshalt School, a state comprehensive school in Uxbridge and the independent[10] St Helen's College, Hillingdon, and then studied politics at the University of Westminster.[11]

Kassam briefly worked for the defunct American financial services firm Lehman Brothers before it went bankrupt in 2008.[12]

So...he has never lived in any country but the UK or US. His parents and their ancestors never lived in Palestine, or even a majority Muslim country at all. And he was never a practising Muslim.

Now, you're probably thinking....what kind of an idiot names a non-Palestinian, non-Muslim who never lived in any kind of a Muslim country to advance an argument that he can substitute his non-Jewish views for those of Jews because of (supposed) Muslim views?

But it gets SO much worse for you.

3) Kassam's activity on social media has attracted negative attention. In June 2016 he posted a tweet (later deleted) suggesting First Minister of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon should have her "mouth taped shut. And her legs, so she can't reproduce".

Just so I understand this, it's only "the left" and Muslims not upholding the rights of women?

Kassam's activity on social media has attracted negative attention. In June 2016 he posted a tweet (later deleted) suggesting First Minister of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon should have her "mouth taped shut. And her legs, so she can't reproduce".

Being delusional is perhaps the one topic you can speak to.

You're not Jewish, you've never set a toe in the Middle East, Israel or otherwise- but think your judgment is superior to that of a Jewish American who lived on a kibbutz.

Which is the definition of anti-Semitism.

But to top it off, you think your judgment is superior when you cited the judgment of a "Muslim who escaped Hamas" being a right wing pundit who:

- Isn't Muslim
- Never lived in Palestine
- Never lived in a non-Western country

LOL.

Congrats. I have seen some incredible examples of far right brainwashing (light rinsing, really) on this site, but the claim that a non-Muslim, British-born of Indian and Tanzanian heritage, racist, misogynist, right wing pundit of zero Palestinian heritage "escaped Sharia Law and exposed Hamas" is...*chef's kiss*. Top 5 example, and have bookmarked this so you forever get the credit.

And this was in the same post claiming why your judgment on Israel is better than a Jewish American who lived there ROFLMAO!!!!

Here we go again, just ignore the facts. Your argument is so beautifully crafted. I'm going to sum up everything you've posted so far and how you came to your conclusion.

1. Netanyahu is corrupt.
2. A racist killed Jews in Pittsburg.
3. There's someone somewhere in Russia that is somehow still alive after criticizing Putin.
4. Bernie Sanders is Jewish
5. Out of hundreds of protesters in Israel, they arrested two that were blocking traffic.
6. Xi is a good guy, he provides water to the last remaining Muslims that haven't disappeared yet.

Therefore, it's OK that Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran attempt to kill all the Jews in Israel and the Jews should do nothing and let Hama kill them. It makes perfect sense. So logical.

I have better judgement than you and Bernie on this particular topic. You get all your news from the left and you follow the left's playbook which is to ignore the fact that Israel has done everything they can to offer peace and they've been met with violence every time.

You spent a great deal of energy on researching Kassam, but I notice you didn't say anything about Hassan Yusef. Why not?

 

[NotInRHouse]

Here we go again, just ignore the facts. Your argument is so beautifully crafted. I'm going to sum up everything you've posted so far and how you came to your conclusion.

1. Netanyahu is corrupt.
2. A racist killed Jews in Pittsburg.
3. There's someone somewhere in Russia that is somehow still alive after criticizing Putin.
4. Bernie Sanders is Jewish
5. Out of hundreds of protesters in Israel, they arrested two that were blocking traffic.
6. Xi is a good guy, he provides water to the last remaining Muslims that haven't disappeared yet.

Therefore, it's OK that Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran attempt to kill all the Jews in Israel and the Jews should do nothing and let Hama kill them. It makes perfect sense. So logical.

I have better judgement than you and Bernie on this particular topic. You get all your news from the left and you follow the left's playbook which is to ignore the fact that Israel has done everything they can to offer peace and they've been met with violence every time.

You spent a great deal of energy on researching Kassam, but I notice you didn't say anything about Hassan Yusef. Why not?

Are you just going to ignore the fact that you claimed a British propagandist who isn't Muslim nor Palestinian "fled and exposed Hamas"?

And instead rehash things I never said (praising Xi, did you confuse me with you favorite felon?). Nor said "do nothing" about Hamas.

Your contempt for facts is only overcome by your contempt for Jews.

We get it- you don't like Bernie because he's Jewish, and your MSN homepage laden with propaganda won't be disobeyed.

You get all your news from the far right and you follow the far right's playbook which is to ignore the fact that Israel's government has done everything they can to prevent peace which caused October 7th.

Here's the far right playbook, page by page:

1. Cite a propagandist and claim they proved something they didn't- eg claim a British born person escaped Sharia
2. Blame Jews- "I have better judgment than Jewish Americans who lived in Israel, despite never setting foot there or in any Middle Eastern or Muslim country." And if you ever left North America it'd be a surprise.
3. Claim everything Israel does it above scrutiny because it's keeping them safe, when it obviously doesn't- eg, the indisputable fact Netanyahu helped fund Hamas, released classified info that hurt hostages, killed his own citizens and aid workers, etc


Oh don't worry- I have the material on Yusef. I'm going to share it when you explain how a Tanzanian-British non-Muslim "escaped Sharia law and exposed Hamas".

And speaking of energy- like most of your posts it comes between 12-2AM, and often on the weekend.

Tell everyone what gives you better judgment than Bernie. As you've admitted you're not Jewish and have never been to the Middle East. You obviously have no military or foreign policy background. Do you have a degree from RU, or anywhere, that gives you such license? Seems improbable, and just like everyone on the far right, another victim of the echo chamber that provides a vehicle for hate.

Is late night when the Joe Rogan comes on and you can type what he thinks here?

 

[Knight177lb]

Are you just going to ignore the fact that you claimed a British propagandist who isn't Muslim nor Palestinian "fled and exposed Hamas"?

And instead rehash things I never said (praising Xi, did you confuse me with you favorite felon?). Nor said "do nothing" about Hamas.

Your contempt for facts is only overcome by your contempt for Jews.

We get it- you don't like Bernie because he's Jewish, and your MSN homepage laden with propaganda won't be disobeyed.

You get all your news from the far right and you follow the far right's playbook which is to ignore the fact that Israel's government has done everything they can to prevent peace which caused October 7th.

Here's the far right playbook, page by page:

1. Cite a propagandist and claim they proved something they didn't- eg claim a British born person escaped Sharia
2. Blame Jews- "I have better judgment than Jewish Americans who lived in Israel, despite never setting foot there or in any Middle Eastern or Muslim country." And if you ever left North America it'd be a surprise.
3. Claim everything Israel does it above scrutiny because it's keeping them safe, when it obviously doesn't- eg, the indisputable fact Netanyahu helped fund Hamas, released classified info that hurt hostages, killed his own citizens and aid workers, etc


Oh don't worry- I have the material on Yusef. I'm going to share it when you explain how a Tanzanian-British non-Muslim "escaped Sharia law and exposed Hamas".

And speaking of energy- like most of your posts it comes between 12-2AM, and often on the weekend.

Tell everyone what gives you better judgment than Bernie. As you've admitted you're not Jewish and have never been to the Middle East. You obviously have no military or foreign policy background. Do you have a degree from RU, or anywhere, that gives you such license? Seems improbable, and just like everyone on the far right, another victim of the echo chamber that provides a vehicle for hate.

Is late night when the Joe Rogan comes on and you can type what he thinks here?

You often go through my posts without fully reading them, so I want to make a few things clear.

I believe the person I cited was born into a Muslim family. It seems that he doesn't share your political views as you've called him a propogandist, so does it really matter what his background is? He's pro-Israel, so he's automatically your enemy. Hirsi Ali is a woman who lived under the brutality of Shari law and escaped. Now she exposes how evil Sharia law is and you get all mad and start in with your "whatabaoutism" logic and point out that she had to tell a lie in order to escape. Therefore, since she's not perfect, it was wrong for her to escape Sharia law and you can't believe anything she says.

I never actually said that I don't like Bernie. I just disagree with him on the topic of Israel. He may have lived in Israel, but for a long time, he's been getting his information from the left and he's been given orders to be pro-Palestinian and he's not going to listen to the Israeli point of view. During the last interview I saw, he said that he believed Israel has a right to exist and that Oct. 7th was a terrible tragedy and that it wasn't justified. So, we agree on this point, but disagree on how Israel is defending itself.

I don't follow the far-right play book. I'm an independent free thinker. I can't ignore the fact Israel has offered peace to the Palestinians five times and it has been rejected each time. That is a fact. Each time they offer peace, the response has been to slaughter as many Jews as possible. That's a fact, but many on the left aren't aware of this. October 7th was not justified. Killing babies and raping women has nothing to do with "struggle".

There are tons of Jewish Americans who are pro-Israel. Jewish Americans are traditionally Democrats, but there are many who have been voting Republican because of the left's stand on being anti-Israel. In this past presidential election, there were many Jews who voted for Harris because she said she supports Israel's right to defend itself. Still, Harris lost some Jewish votes because if Israel. What's really crazy is that Harris lost Palestinian votes because they felt she didn't support them and they voted for Trump. I don't get that at all.

I don't think Israel is above criticism. That's about the 6th or 7th time I've said that. I don't criticize them for defending their very own lives. They have a right to exist. This in direct conflict with the beliefs of Hamas.

Please elaborate on Yusef. Was he less than honest when escaping Hamas and trying not to get assassinated for leaving Islam?

I'm up late at night. These boards are recreation for me. I don't have time to read or post during the day when I'm working or after work when I'm doing things with my family.

Now, as far as my race or religion, I've never told you what I am. Why do you think I'm not Jewish? Go ahead and read every post in this thread. I've never said that I wasn't Jewish. I never said what I was because I think race or ethnicity isn't important, but since it's so important to you, I'll tell you. My mother is 100% Ashkenazi which makes me 50% Ashkenazi. The other half is a mix of Polish, German, and English. As far as religion, I don't follow any.

I do have a degree from Rutgers. I have a bachelors and a masters.

I have never heard a Joe Rogan podcast.