Rutgers New Brunswick students release a 'terrorist-like' message to their school, demanding that the school cut ties with Israel.

[ashokan]

Columbia University anti-Israel group says they're 'fighting for the total eradication of Western civilization'​

An anti-Israel group at Columbia University said they're fighting to "eradicate" Western civilization.​

Columbia University anti-Israel group says they're 'fighting for the total eradication of Western civilization'

An anti-Israel group at Columbia University said they're fighting to "eradicate" Western civilization.

www.campusreform.org

 

[Knight177lb]

A tweet that doesn't mention any Jewish people at all is now anti-semitic, brought to you by the guy who said "sources" told him RU was ending their deal with the protesters LOL

The tweet is extremely racist. First, it falsely accuses Israel of genocide and rape. That's what Hamas is doing. Then they're upset about a Hamas leader being killed. The primary goal of Hamas is to kill all Jews.

 

[bac2therac]

so great...the pro Hamas pro terrorist Rutgers professor is being considered as Jill Steins VP....make this happen

 

[NotInRHouse]

The tweet is extremely racist. First, it falsely accuses Israel of genocide and rape. That's what Hamas is doing. Then they're upset about a Hamas leader being killed. The primary goal of Hamas is to kill all Jews.

If someone says that American troops wrongly killed Iraqis or Vietnamese, does that make them anti-American or a critic of American policy?

 

[Knight177lb]

If someone says that American troops wrongly killed Iraqis or Vietnamese, does that make them anti-American or a critic of American policy?

So it's OK to accuse a country of rape and genocide when it isn't true?

That's a bad comparison. It was never America's intention to kill all Vietnamese because of their race.

 

[NotInRHouse]

So it's OK to accuse a country of rape and genocide when it isn't true?

That's a bad comparison. It was never America's intention to kill all Vietnamese because of their race.

The First Amendment protects the rights of people to speak on issues of public concern. I see you complaining a ton about people accusing Israel of genocide. People accused President Biden and probably every President in my lifetime of genocide. The felon was accused with COVID. Bushes in Iraq. Clinton in Serbia etc. Would you have jailed those people? Does the accusation make them anti American?

Actually, many people said and continue to say that Mai Lai and Abu Gharaib (among other instances) occurred in large part because our mostly white military didn't value their lives. Now, I am not saying that is accurate or inaccurate, but I do think discussion about it is protected by the 1A.

In the case of Israel, their "leaders" have said things like "the Arabs are voting in droves" and that hospitals should be segregated based on religion. Another had a picture of a terrorist who massacred Palestinians praying in a mosque hanging on his wall. To say that any questioning of these people's intent is antisemitic is an absurdity.

Do I think it's a genocide? No. Do I think the Israeli gov places minimal value on the lives of Palestinians and is engaging the way it is, overruling generals and bombing aid workers because its far right leaders that praise segregation and terrorists face certain defeat at the ballot box when the war ends? 110%. That is backed up by Netanyahu funding Hamas to perpetuate his own political survival and prevent his own criminal trial from taking place.

Since Netanyahu also bombs aid workers and has killed his own citizens, I think he'd kill basically anyone to not lose power and avoid jail. Much like the Hamas terrorists murdered Thai farm workers and Arabs living in Israel. It's brutality and murder by people whose goals are strictly self perpetuation at any cost. Lives don't matter, race and religion aside. It's terrorism, not genocide.

Of course, most Israelis and most Jews globally, and most people generally don't support this behavior. So the idea that any questioning of it is antisemitic defies logic.

You are essentially just saying any criticism of Israel's conduct is antisemtitic, which would basically make most Israelis antisemitic. Not logical.

 

[Knight177lb]

The First Amendment protects the rights of people to speak on issues of public concern. I see you complaining a ton about people accusing Israel of genocide. People accused President Biden and probably every President in my lifetime of genocide. The felon was accused with COVID. Bushes in Iraq. Clinton in Serbia etc. Would you have jailed those people? Does the accusation make them anti American?

Actually, many people said and continue to say that Mai Lai and Abu Gharaib (among other instances) occurred in large part because our mostly white military didn't value their lives. Now, I am not saying that is accurate or inaccurate, but I do think discussion about it is protected by the 1A.

In the case of Israel, their "leaders" have said things like "the Arabs are voting in droves" and that hospitals should be segregated based on religion. Another had a picture of a terrorist who massacred Palestinians praying in a mosque hanging on his wall. To say that any questioning of these people's intent is antisemitic is an absurdity.

Do I think it's a genocide? No. Do I think the Israeli gov places minimal value on the lives of Palestinians and is engaging the way it is, overruling generals and bombing aid workers because its far right leaders that praise segregation and terrorists face certain defeat at the ballot box when the war ends? 110%. That is backed up by Netanyahu funding Hamas to perpetuate his own political survival and prevent his own criminal trial from taking place.

Since Netanyahu also bombs aid workers and has killed his own citizens, I think he'd kill basically anyone to not lose power and avoid jail. Much like the Hamas terrorists murdered Thai farm workers and Arabs living in Israel. It's brutality and murder by people whose goals are strictly self perpetuation at any cost. Lives don't matter, race and religion aside. It's terrorism, not genocide.

Of course, most Israelis and most Jews globally, and most people generally don't support this behavior. So the idea that any questioning of it is antisemitic defies logic.

You are essentially just saying any criticism of Israel's conduct is antisemtitic, which would basically make most Israelis antisemitic. Not logical.

You're putting words in my mouth again. To criticize Israel is not anti-semitic, to be on the side of Hamas is.

I can't believe that you would fall for this conspiracy theory that Netanyahu wanted Hamas to attack. You might as well listen to Info Wars.

Many mistakes have been made by Israel in this war, but they are truly mistakes. On the other hand, Hamas can't make any mistakes since all death is good to them, both Jewish and Arab. They use women and children as shields, so they can get the death count higher and gain your sympathy.

Exactly what did you want Israel to do after October 7th? Nothing? Do you want them to reward Hamas for slaughtering Jews?

 

[NotInRHouse]

You're putting words in my mouth again. To criticize Israel is not anti-semitic, to be on the side of Hamas is.

I can't believe that you would fall for this conspiracy theory that Netanyahu wanted Hamas to attack. You might as well listen to Info Wars.

Many mistakes have been made by Israel in this war, but they are truly mistakes. On the other hand, Hamas can't make any mistakes since all death is good to them, both Jewish and Arab. They use women and children as shields, so they can get the death count higher and gain your sympathy.

Exactly what did you want Israel to do after October 7th? Nothing? Do you want them to reward Hamas for slaughtering Jews?

OK...so if someone says Israel is committing genocide, how is that siding with Hamas?

I didn't say he wanted Hamas to attack. I stated the fact, as reported by Israeli media, that he allowed them to be funded to help stave off the creation of a Palestinian state.

At what point is the repetition of the same mistakes a constant? Here in the US, when a police dept consistently harasses if not kills the citizenry, they get a consent decree. What is Israel's plan to make up for their problem?

I hope Hamas is wiped off the face of the Earth. But I also want the Israeli gov to face the full force of justice. Which is the belief held by most normal people.

Israel could have and should have gone after the Hamas leadership as it's doing now with Haniyeh and others. Bombing churches in the alleged pursuit of Islamic fundamentalists is farcical.

 

[Knight177lb]

OK...so if someone says Israel is committing genocide, how is that siding with Hamas?

I didn't say he wanted Hamas to attack. I stated the fact, as reported by Israeli media, that he allowed them to be funded to help stave off the creation of a Palestinian state.

At what point is the repetition of the same mistakes a constant? Here in the US, when a police dept consistently harasses if not kills the citizenry, they get a consent decree. What is Israel's plan to make up for their problem?

I hope Hamas is wiped off the face of the Earth. But I also want the Israeli gov to face the full force of justice. Which is the belief held by most normal people.

Israel could have and should have gone after the Hamas leadership as it's doing now with Haniyeh and others. Bombing churches in the alleged pursuit of Islamic fundamentalists is farcical.

Israel is not committing genocide. That is an outright lie created by Hamas. Anyone who repeats that lie is siding with Hamas.

The death toll reported by Hamas is a lie. It's all made up. It was proven statistically impossible early on in the war, but nobody listened. How do people find it so easy to believe Hams? Oh right, racism.

Killing two members of Hamas is not going to stop Hamas.

You cannot appease evil. It's been proven throughout history again and again.
Hitler = evil
Putin = evil
Hamas = evil
Why is it so hard to get this concept?

You're going to have to explain your whole conspiracy theory here because I don't listen to Info Wars or wherever you got it from. Does it go something like this? Netanyahu was sitting around thinking wouldn't it be great if I could get a whole ton of my people killed and in the process, turn the whole world against me. I know, I'll fund Hamas. Brilliant!

 

[NotInRHouse]

Israel is not committing genocide. That is an outright lie created by Hamas. Anyone who repeats that lie is siding with Hamas.

The death toll reported by Hamas is a lie. It's all made up. It was proven statistically impossible early on in the war, but nobody listened. How do people find it so easy to believe Hams? Oh right, racism.

Killing two members of Hamas is not going to stop Hamas.

You cannot appease evil. It's been proven throughout history again and again.
Hitler = evil
Putin = evil
Hamas = evil
Why is it so hard to get this concept?

You're going to have to explain your whole conspiracy theory here because I don't listen to Info Wars or wherever you got it from. Does it go something like this? Netanyahu was sitting around thinking wouldn't it be great if I could get a whole ton of my people killed and in the process, turn the whole world against me. I know, I'll fund Hamas. Brilliant!

So...the ICC that indicted Hamas...is siding with them?

You are now so deep into conspiracy theories you're comparing the media in Israel (a country you hold in equal, if not greater esteem than the US) to Infowars?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

I am providing proof of my assertions. You are just comparing everyone to Hamas and providing no proof of anything. Instead of comparing the Times of Israel to antisemitic theories, why can't you provide links disputing its contents?

Though I agree with one point...we can't appease evil.

Netanyahu = evil
AIPAC promoting antisemitic conspiracy theories like Great Replacement = evil

For someone who insists he loves democracy, you take a lot of umbrage with the First Amendment. If saying Israel is committing genocide is "siding with Hamas"...how about people who say "Genocide Joe"- are they Hamas supporters? Are Americans who criticized GWB part of Al Qaeda? Are those who criticized Jimmy Carter supporters of Iran? Do you take any of your proclamations of their logical conclusion, or is it just that Israel isn't subject to our 1A?

 

[Knight177lb]

So...the ICC that indicted Hamas...is siding with them?

You are now so deep into conspiracy theories you're comparing the media in Israel (a country you hold in equal, if not greater esteem than the US) to Infowars?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

I am providing proof of my assertions. You are just comparing everyone to Hamas and providing no proof of anything. Instead of comparing the Times of Israel to antisemitic theories, why can't you provide links disputing its contents?

Though I agree with one point...we can't appease evil.

Netanyahu = evil
AIPAC promoting antisemitic conspiracy theories like Great Replacement = evil

For someone who insists he loves democracy, you take a lot of umbrage with the First Amendment. If saying Israel is committing genocide is "siding with Hamas"...how about people who say "Genocide Joe"- are they Hamas supporters? Are Americans who criticized GWB part of Al Qaeda? Are those who criticized Jimmy Carter supporters of Iran? Do you take any of your proclamations of their logical conclusion, or is it just that Israel isn't subject to our 1A?

I know you're obsessed with Netanyahu, but he is not the problem. The problem is Israel is surrounded by people that want to kill them because they are Jewish. There is nothing they can do to satisfy them unless they let themselves be killed. The Jews are simply not willing to meet that demand. I feel that demand is unreasonable as well.

I read the article and it's just as I thought. Israel issued work permits which let Gazans earn money. The whole world is calling Gaza an open air prison which is totally not true. Can you imagine the outrage from the rest of the world if there were no work permits issued? As far as the money from Quatar, I seriously doubt Israel has the power to stop all cash from entering Gaza. They don't even have the power to stop weapons from entering. Even if they could stop money going in, can you imagine the outrage? It's a crazy conspiracy theory, but believe it if you want to. Just know this. Arabs have killed Jews under every single prime minister Israel has ever had. It doesn't matter who's PM. Arabs started the killing of Jews in 1921, way before there was even an Israel.

 

[NotInRHouse]

I know you're obsessed with Netanyahu, but he is not the problem. The problem is Israel is surrounded by people that want to kill them because they are Jewish. There is nothing they can do to satisfy them unless they let themselves be killed. The Jews are simply not willing to meet that demand. I feel that demand is unreasonable as well.

I read the article and it's just as I thought. Israel issued work permits which let Gazans earn money. The whole world is calling Gaza an open air prison which is totally not true. Can you imagine the outrage from the rest of the world if there were no work permits issued? As far as the money from Quatar, I seriously doubt Israel has the power to stop all cash from entering Gaza. They don't even have the power to stop weapons from entering. Even if they could stop money going in, can you imagine the outrage? It's a crazy conspiracy theory, but believe it if you want to. Just know this. Arabs have killed Jews under every single prime minister Israel has ever had. It doesn't matter who's PM. Arabs started the killing of Jews in 1921, way before there was even an Israel.

I am obsessed with defeating Hamas. That requires defeating its funders. And I'm also obsessed with law and order. I don't like felons.

The article clearly provides proof that Netanyahu is allowing the funding and his rationale is to weaken the PA so there never can be peace.

And chef's kiss for your posts:

1) Ignore the facts and call them conspiratorial
2) Ignore everything Israel does
3) Accuse all Arabs

Flip Jews and Arabs in your sentence, would you still say it? Oh and it'd be true that the GOVERNMENT of Israel killed many Arabs that whole time too.

 

[Knight177lb]

I am obsessed with defeating Hamas. That requires defeating its funders. And I'm also obsessed with law and order. I don't like felons.

The article clearly provides proof that Netanyahu is allowing the funding and his rationale is to weaken the PA so there never can be peace.

And chef's kiss for your posts:

1) Ignore the facts and call them conspiratorial
2) Ignore everything Israel does
3) Accuse all Arabs

Flip Jews and Arabs in your sentence, would you still say it? Oh and it'd be true that the GOVERNMENT of Israel killed many Arabs that whole time too.

Well that's a change for you. I've been trying for a while to get you to turn your rage against Hamas.

You still didn't answer my questions though. Gazans have always come into Israel to work. They earned money and it helped the Gazans out. Was Netanyahu supposed to put an end to that? What would the world say?

Israel doesn't have the power to stop all money from coming into Gaza, but for the sake of argument, let's pretend they could. What would the world say if Israel cut off all money going into Gaza?

 

[NotInRHouse]

Well that's a change for you. I've been trying for a while to get you to turn your rage against Hamas.

You still didn't answer my questions though. Gazans have always come into Israel to work. They earned money and it helped the Gazans out. Was Netanyahu supposed to put an end to that? What would the world say?

Israel doesn't have the power to stop all money from coming into Gaza, but for the sake of argument, let's pretend they could. What would the world say if Israel cut off all money going into Gaza?

My rage is against anyone that needlessly kills civilians. That would include Hamas, Israel, Russia, North Korea, China, even the US in its history in Iraq and Vietnam. But yet, people only get really angry about one of those being criticized. If someone says "Kim Jong Un is a murderous thug" no one would seriously suggest that the person meant all Koreans everywhere. But if I say "Netanyahu is a murderous thug" when the opinion is held by plenty of Israelis, it's a problem?

The article is specifically referencing the money from Qatar. Not remittances. Qatar and outside govs keep Hamas going, not construction workers.

If you read the article, you will see that Israel could in fact prevent Qatar from funding Hamas. And Israel could help the PA take control- not that they are great but they are better than Hamas. The issue is that Netanyahu wanted to weaken the PA and play them against Hamas in order to prevent there being a two state solution. So here we are. Yes, Hamas is a murderous terrorist group that doesn't want peace. But the current Israeli gov- not all Israeli govs, not all Israelis, not all Jews- much like not all Palestinians support Hamas- does not. See that, we can criticize governments without indicting millions of people and condemn needless civilian deaths quite easily.

 

[Knight177lb]

My rage is against anyone that needlessly kills civilians. That would include Hamas, Israel, Russia, North Korea, China, even the US in its history in Iraq and Vietnam. But yet, people only get really angry about one of those being criticized. If someone says "Kim Jong Un is a murderous thug" no one would seriously suggest that the person meant all Koreans everywhere. But if I say "Netanyahu is a murderous thug" when the opinion is held by plenty of Israelis, it's a problem?

The article is specifically referencing the money from Qatar. Not remittances. Qatar and outside govs keep Hamas going, not construction workers.

If you read the article, you will see that Israel could in fact prevent Qatar from funding Hamas. And Israel could help the PA take control- not that they are great but they are better than Hamas. The issue is that Netanyahu wanted to weaken the PA and play them against Hamas in order to prevent there being a two state solution. So here we are. Yes, Hamas is a murderous terrorist group that doesn't want peace. But the current Israeli gov- not all Israeli govs, not all Israelis, not all Jews- much like not all Palestinians support Hamas- does not. See that, we can criticize governments without indicting millions of people and condemn needless civilian deaths quite easily.

You still didn't answer my question. Theoretically, if Israel had the ability to stop all money from going into Gaza, what would the world say? They would say he's committing genocide. There's nothing Netanyahu can do that would please the rest of the world.

The article states that Netanyahu is not on record of saying any of these things, so it is just a theory.

Israel does not needlessly kill civillians. They just want to live in Peace. It's Israel that has offered peace time and time again. It's always been rejected. Hamas is the one that will not accept a Jewish state. Hamas is the one that attacked. Hamas is the one to blame for all the deaths.

 

[NotInRHouse]

You still didn't answer my question. Theoretically, if Israel had the ability to stop all money from going into Gaza, what would the world say? They would say he's committing genocide. There's nothing Netanyahu can do that would please the rest of the world.

The article states that Netanyahu is not on record of saying any of these things, so it is just a theory.

Israel does not needlessly kill civillians. They just want to live in Peace. It's Israel that has offered peace time and time again. It's always been rejected. Hamas is the one that will not accept a Jewish state. Hamas is the one that attacked. Hamas is the one to blame for all the deaths.

They say he's committing genocide because he bombs civilians and killed hostages and aid workers.

LOL. So one needs to be "on record" saying something to be guilty? OJ never went "on record" saying he killed his ex, so he is therefore innocent?

How did killing aid workers and its own hostages advance the cause of peace?

Israeli cabinet members saying to destroy Gaza and segregate delivery rooms are advancing peace and accepting a Palestinian state?

 

[Knight177lb]

They say he's committing genocide because he bombs civilians and killed hostages and aid workers.

LOL. So one needs to be "on record" saying something to be guilty? OJ never went "on record" saying he killed his ex, so he is therefore innocent?

How did killing aid workers and its own hostages advance the cause of peace?

Israeli cabinet members saying to destroy Gaza and segregate delivery rooms are advancing peace and accepting a Palestinian state?

Yeah, go ahead, keep spreading that hate. Keep repeating those lies. Inspire more Jihadism.

Israel is not committing genocide. They are not targeting civilians. Israel is defending itself by trying to eliminate Hamas. You are aware that Hamas uses civilians as human shields, aren't you? You do know that Hamas wants more of its own civilians to die? Hamas is lying about the number of civilian deaths. I'm being total serious. Are you aware of these facts?

 

[NealPageNJ]

Another message from the terrorists. “Rutgers we are not done. The intifada has just begun.” Glad the school has suspended the organization but it’s probably time to start suspending the students making these threats.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Yeah, go ahead, keep spreading that hate. Keep repeating those lies. Inspire more Jihadism.

Israel is not committing genocide. They are not targeting civilians. Israel is defending itself by trying to eliminate Hamas. You are aware that Hamas uses civilians as human shields, aren't you? You do know that Hamas wants more of its own civilians to die? Hamas is lying about the number of civilian deaths. I'm being total serious. Are you aware of these facts?

Yep, nothing says jihad like an atheist sharing posts from Israeli media LOL.

Are the Israelis staging mass protests and calling national strikes antisemitic? They are raising the same concerns that people here are.

Israelis are protesting saying their gov isn't doing anything to release hostages or keep them safe.

Now let's see...why should I believe you over them? Have you ever even been to Israel? It seems like your proof is a just a steady right wing media diet- Ayan Hirsi Ali, all Muslims bad, Israel is perfect, their government is above criticism, Israel should only be compared to Islamic countries and not democratic ones, etc. You haven't presented any facts. You have called everyone and their mother- including and especially Jews- antisemitic. You're calling me jihadist for providing links to Israeli media.

Are you aware of the INDISPUTABLE FACT that Netanyahu:

- Funded Hamas
- Allows Settlers to go on murderous rampages without consequence
- Is wanted by 72%+ of his people to resign
- Is literally presiding over a national strike because of his conduct in this war, with the main argument being he's not protecting Israelis and the protesters faulting him with hostage deaths?

Are you aware of these facts, and can you answer it without saying Hamas or attempting to impugn all Arabs and Muslims, calling Jews antisemitic or accusing them of supporting jihadism?

 

[NotInRHouse]

Another message from the terrorists. “Rutgers we are not done. The intifada has just begun.” Glad the school has suspended the organization but it’s probably time to start suspending the students making these threats.

View embedded media

Intifada means struggle.

Here's an example.

"NealPageNJ's intifada to prove the rapist felon antisemite he worships is winning in November by sharing Trafalgar polls has really hit the skids on the Weird board."

 

[Knight177lb]

Yep, nothing says jihad like an atheist sharing posts from Israeli media LOL.

Are the Israelis staging mass protests and calling national strikes antisemitic? They are raising the same concerns that people here are.

Israelis are protesting saying their gov isn't doing anything to release hostages or keep them safe.

Now let's see...why should I believe you over them? Have you ever even been to Israel? It seems like your proof is a just a steady right wing media diet- Ayan Hirsi Ali, all Muslims bad, Israel is perfect, their government is above criticism, Israel should only be compared to Islamic countries and not democratic ones, etc. You haven't presented any facts. You have called everyone and their mother- including and especially Jews- antisemitic. You're calling me jihadist for providing links to Israeli media.

Are you aware of the INDISPUTABLE FACT that Netanyahu:

- Funded Hamas
- Allows Settlers to go on murderous rampages without consequence
- Is wanted by 72%+ of his people to resign
- Is literally presiding over a national strike because of his conduct in this war, with the main argument being he's not protecting Israelis and the protesters faulting him with hostage deaths?

Are you aware of these facts, and can you answer it without saying Hamas or attempting to impugn all Arabs and Muslims, calling Jews antisemitic or accusing them of supporting jihadism?

The Israelis staging massive protests isn't antisemitic, it's just what happens when you live in a democratic country and you're free to express your opinion.

I don't know why you hate Hirsi Ali so much. She's simply telling her story. I've never heard her say that all Muslims are bad. I'm not just repeating right wing media. I've posted links to all sorts of sources including Bill Maher who definitely isn't right wing.

I've said many times that Israel isn't perfect, just like the US isn't perfect, but still a democracy. I've never called you a jihadist, I'm saying the college protests are encouraging jihadists.

If Netanyahu doesn't let Hamas get money, he's committing genocide. If he does, then he caused Hamas to attack. Nothing he does will satisfy you. Netanyahu may be unpopular and he'll get voted out of office because Israel is a democracy. You're greatly over exaggerating settler violence. If a settler so much as puts up a tent, it's counted as violence. If an Israeli is kidnapped and they try and get him back, it's counted as violence.

 

[NotInRHouse]

The Israelis staging massive protests isn't antisemitic, it's just what happens when you live in a democratic country and you're free to express your opinion.

I don't know why you hate Hirsi Ali so much. She's simply telling her story. I've never heard her say that all Muslims are bad. I'm not just repeating right wing media. I've posted links to all sorts of sources including Bill Maher who definitely isn't right wing.

I've said many times that Israel isn't perfect, just like the US isn't perfect, but still a democracy. I've never called you a jihadist, I'm saying the college protests are encouraging jihadists.

If Netanyahu doesn't let Hamas get money, he's committing genocide. If he does, then he caused Hamas to attack. Nothing he does will satisfy you. Netanyahu may be unpopular and he'll get voted out of office because Israel is a democracy. You're greatly over exaggerating settler violence. If a settler so much as puts up a tent, it's counted as violence. If an Israeli is kidnapped and they try and get him back, it's counted as violence.

Israeli protesters are saying the same thing the college kids are. Why is one OK and one a problem?

I don't like people who abuse the asylum process and make it harder for everyone else while scapegoating 1 billion people. Seems like terrible behavior.

Actually, Netanyahu can satisfy the world including 72% of Israelis by stepping down after his behavior set the conditions for 10/7 and by facing justice like a man. He is criminally indicted and doesn't belong near the levers of power. As Israeli media reported, his focus on staying out of jail and remaining in power led to funding Hamas and a hyperfocus on protecting maniacal settlers instead of the kibbutzim, Bedouins and festival goers near the Gaza border.

Settlers are actively murdering people. You're not seeing it because it's not reported in Islamophobic sources, who, ironically, ignore the violence against Christian Palestinians and Jewish Americans by their fellow travelers.

Here it is from Israeli media;

Jewish settlers descend on West Bank village; Palestinian killed, one critically wounded

***

www.haaretz.com

You had a group of people crossing a border into a town and shooting, setting ablaze and murdering...gee that sounds awfully familiar.

 

[Knight177lb]

Israeli protesters are saying the same thing the college kids are. Why is one OK and one a problem?

I don't like people who abuse the asylum process and make it harder for everyone else while scapegoating 1 billion people. Seems like terrible behavior.

Actually, Netanyahu can satisfy the world including 72% of Israelis by stepping down after his behavior set the conditions for 10/7 and by facing justice like a man. He is criminally indicted and doesn't belong near the levers of power. As Israeli media reported, his focus on staying out of jail and remaining in power led to funding Hamas and a hyperfocus on protecting maniacal settlers instead of the kibbutzim, Bedouins and festival goers near the Gaza border.

Settlers are actively murdering people. You're not seeing it because it's not reported in Islamophobic sources, who, ironically, ignore the violence against Christian Palestinians and Jewish Americans by their fellow travelers.

Here it is from Israeli media;

Jewish settlers descend on West Bank village; Palestinian killed, one critically wounded

***

www.haaretz.com

You had a group of people crossing a border into a town and shooting, setting ablaze and murdering...gee that sounds awfully familiar.

The two protests are very different. The Israeli protest wants Netanyahu to bring home the hostages alive. The college protests are calling for an intifada and destroying Israel. This means death to all the Jews in Israel.

She was running for her life. Would you prefer it for her to stay in Somali and live under such horrible conditions? She was legitimately seeking asylum. She was about to be killed. She is calling the thread of Islam that she was brought up under evil. Don't you agree?

Netanyahu can step down and be replaced. It won't make a bit of a difference. The Arabs will continue to kill Jews and Jews will try and defend themselves and the world will hate them for it.

I'm not reading Islamophobic sources, but you are getting all your news from Al Jazeera. They hate Jews and always leave out the part where the violence started with Jews being killed.

 

[NotInRHouse]

The two protests are very different. The Israeli protest wants Netanyahu to bring home the hostages alive. The college protests are calling for an intifada and destroying Israel. This means death to all the Jews in Israel.

She was running for her life. Would you prefer it for her to stay in Somali and live under such horrible conditions? She was legitimately seeking asylum. She was about to be killed. She is calling the thread of Islam that she was brought up under evil. Don't you agree?

Netanyahu can step down and be replaced. It won't make a bit of a difference. The Arabs will continue to kill Jews and Jews will try and defend themselves and the world will hate them for it.

I'm not reading Islamophobic sources, but you are getting all your news from Al Jazeera. They hate Jews and always leave out the part where the violence started with Jews being killed.

So all college protests are calling for that? That would be news to the huge amounts of Jewish students protesting.

I guess Jewish American protesters are like Jewish Israeli journalists- they oppose Netanyahu and AIPAC and their ludicrous lies and narratives, so they must be antisemitic?

For someone so concerned with those "running for their lives" where's your advocacy for refugees in this country? How about Gazans running for their lives? Realistically I know you don't care. But how about Venezuelans or others here? You're awful quiet on them. They manage to be honest. Why can't she?

"The Arabs will continue to kill Jews" shows your outrageous bigotry. There are millions of Arabs, and you hold them collectively responsible. You do exactly what you falsely accuse protesters of doing- demonizing an entire group on the basis of their origin.

I cited only American and Israeli media. If you can't cite one time I used Al Jazeera - and to be sure, you can't - it's just another L of yours in a long line of lies, losses and outrageous hatred. We get it- you hate Arabs so you engage in collective hate. You hate proudly Jewish Americans and Israelis who oppose killing aid workers and protesters and need to pretend like my stout defense for Judaism is a conspiracy. It's sad.

 

[Knight177lb]

So all college protests are calling for that? That would be news to the huge amounts of Jewish students protesting.

I guess Jewish American protesters are like Jewish Israeli journalists- they oppose Netanyahu and AIPAC and their ludicrous lies and narratives, so they must be antisemitic?

For someone so concerned with those "running for their lives" where's your advocacy for refugees in this country? How about Gazans running for their lives? Realistically I know you don't care. But how about Venezuelans or others here? You're awful quiet on them. They manage to be honest. Why can't she?

"The Arabs will continue to kill Jews" shows your outrageous bigotry. There are millions of Arabs, and you hold them collectively responsible. You do exactly what you falsely accuse protesters of doing- demonizing an entire group on the basis of their origin.

I cited only American and Israeli media. If you can't cite one time I used Al Jazeera - and to be sure, you can't - it's just another L of yours in a long line of lies, losses and outrageous hatred. We get it- you hate Arabs so you engage in collective hate. You hate proudly Jewish Americans and Israelis who oppose killing aid workers and protesters and need to pretend like my stout defense for Judaism is a conspiracy. It's sad.

I hear "There is only one solution (like Jews are a problem and not a people much like Hitler saw them) intifada revolution" at nearly every protest I've seen on the news. I haven't been to every protest, so no, I don't know that it's been said at all of them. However, none of the protests are against Hamas, the evil that has caused this whole war. Actually, it's attempted genocide of the Jews, but everyone is calling it a war.

Yes, there are some Jews that oppose Netanyahu. They can freely say that without fear both in the US and Israel.

I don't know why you would point to Venezuela? They have it pretty bad because they live under a dictator, but they don't live under Sharia law. People are fleeing because of economic conditions caused by Maduro. I feel bad for them, but I didn't mention them because it's a different topic. You never mention Sudan. Does that mean you don't care? Of course not. I know you do. But do you ever ask yourself why Israel is receiving so much media attention when the humanitarian crisis is far worse in other countries. The number of people who need humanitarian assistance in Syria is 32.5 million, Congo 27 million, Sudan 28,1 million, Afghanistan 30.6 million, Ethiopia 20 million, Yemen 18.2 million, Ukraine 16.8 million, and South Sudan 13.6 million. Other than Ukraine, you never hear about any of these crises.

 

[NotInRHouse]

I hear "There is only one solution (like Jews are a problem and not a people much like Hitler saw them) intifada revolution" at nearly every protest I've seen on the news. I haven't been to every protest, so no, I don't know that it's been said at all of them. However, none of the protests are against Hamas, the evil that has caused this whole war. Actually, it's attempted genocide of the Jews, but everyone is calling it a war.

Yes, there are some Jews that oppose Netanyahu. They can freely say that without fear both in the US and Israel.

I don't know why you would point to Venezuela? They have it pretty bad because they live under a dictator, but they don't live under Sharia law. People are fleeing because of economic conditions caused by Maduro. I feel bad for them, but I didn't mention them because it's a different topic. You never mention Sudan. Does that mean you don't care? Of course not. I know you do. But do you ever ask yourself why Israel is receiving so much media attention when the humanitarian crisis is far worse in other countries. The number of people who need humanitarian assistance in Syria is 32.5 million, Congo 27 million, Sudan 28,1 million, Afghanistan 30.6 million, Ethiopia 20 million, Yemen 18.2 million, Ukraine 16.8 million, and South Sudan 13.6 million. Other than Ukraine, you never hear about any of these crises.

You accuse others of watching and hearing what they want to, and then go on to say you typecast all protesters based on what you see on the news. Do you not see a problem there? Are you saying Jewish protesters are pro Hamas?

Protesters have been arrested in Israel and blackballed here.

We've been over your lies on the "what about X country". People protest those all the time. You need proof? Maybe you're watching the wrong news.

I was mentioning refugees, not protesters. You feel sorry for Hirsi Ali, but not the Venzuelans crossing the border?

 

[Knight177lb]

You accuse others of watching and hearing what they want to, and then go on to say you typecast all protesters based on what you see on the news. Do you not see a problem there? Are you saying Jewish protesters are pro Hamas?

Protesters have been arrested in Israel and blackballed here.

We've been over your lies on the "what about X country". People protest those all the time. You need proof? Maybe you're watching the wrong news.

I was mentioning refugees, not protesters. You feel sorry for Hirsi Ali, but not the Venzuelans crossing the border?

I think there are many protesters, non-Jewish and Jewish that don't know the truth. That's the problem I see.

Nobody in Israel is being arrested simply for protesting. You are allowed to say whatever you want in Israel. Arrests of protesters is very rare in Israel. Given that there have been up to 30,000 protesters at times, very few are arrested and the ones who are arrested did something else like blocking traffic. Those who are arrested are processed and released. Please don't exaggerate things like this to paint Israel in a bad light.

Maybe I missed a story somewhere, but when I turn on my computer, I see the Microsoft news feed on my home page. I have not seen any reporting there on any of the countries I mentioned with the exception of Ukraine over the past year. I usually watch the CBS Evening News with Norah O'Donnell. I have not seen any reporting there either. Like I said, maybe I missed it, but I don't think you can honestly say that the humanitarian crisis taking place in those countries is receiving the proper amount of attention. I see multiple stories on Israel every day.

I do feel sorry for the people in Venezuela. Do you really think I don't care?

 

[NotInRHouse]

I think there are many protesters, non-Jewish and Jewish that don't know the truth. That's the problem I see.

Nobody in Israel is being arrested simply for protesting. You are allowed to say whatever you want in Israel. Arrests of protesters is very rare in Israel. Given that there have been up to 30,000 protesters at times, very few are arrested and the ones who are arrested did something else like blocking traffic. Those who are arrested are processed and released. Please don't exaggerate things like this to paint Israel in a bad light.

Maybe I missed a story somewhere, but when I turn on my computer, I see the Microsoft news feed on my home page. I have not seen any reporting there on any of the countries I mentioned with the exception of Ukraine over the past year. I usually watch the CBS Evening News with Norah O'Donnell. I have not seen any reporting there either. Like I said, maybe I missed it, but I don't think you can honestly say that the humanitarian crisis taking place in those countries is receiving the proper amount of attention. I see multiple stories on Israel every day.

I do feel sorry for the people in Venezuela. Do you really think I don't care?

If a Jewish American protester says it's a problem that a Turkish American protester was killed by the IDF this week, what is he or she uninformed about?

When is it acceptable to arrest hostage family members, who btw, didn't block traffic?

There are *multiple* stories in the NYT everyday on China and Venezuela's authoritarian behavior. What other countries are you interested in? Of course, a country like Israel (and Ukraine) get high levels of attention because 1) we fund them and 2) Republicans insist the former is above approach and the latter (and its proudly Jewish president) are somehow problematic. Most Americans tend to be suspicious of China, but it's in our news because we all buy so much crap from there. A country like Sudan or Yemen (unfairly) gets less play because their communities are small here in the US and we don't have much history with them. BUT people do protest, for example, about Darfur or the Saudi bombardment in Yemen. You just have to look for it, which is more of a function of the media. If you walked around a college campus before making the statement you'd see the difference.

 

[Knight177lb]

If a Jewish American protester says it's a problem that a Turkish American protester was killed by the IDF this week, what is he or she uninformed about?

When is it acceptable to arrest hostage family members, who btw, didn't block traffic?

There are *multiple* stories in the NYT everyday on China and Venezuela's authoritarian behavior. What other countries are you interested in? Of course, a country like Israel (and Ukraine) get high levels of attention because 1) we fund them and 2) Republicans insist the former is above approach and the latter (and its proudly Jewish president) are somehow problematic. Most Americans tend to be suspicious of China, but it's in our news because we all buy so much crap from there. A country like Sudan or Yemen (unfairly) gets less play because their communities are small here in the US and we don't have much history with them. BUT people do protest, for example, about Darfur or the Saudi bombardment in Yemen. You just have to look for it, which is more of a function of the media. If you walked around a college campus before making the statement you'd see the difference.

I think you're correct in your assessment, but just because we have a smaller community here in the US, doesn't mean that a life is worth less. It's a function of the media, but they can do a lot better.

Keep in mind that the protests in Israel were up to 30,000 people at a time. I don't know what percentage were arrested, but I'm sure it's pretty low. Thankfully, they are in a democracy and you don't have to worry about their safety and they'll get a fair trial.

 

[NotInRHouse]

I think you're correct in your assessment, but just because we have a smaller community here in the US, doesn't mean that a life is worth less. It's a function of the media, but they can do a lot better.

Keep in mind that the protests in Israel were up to 30,000 people at a time. I don't know what percentage were arrested, but I'm sure it's pretty low. Thankfully, they are in a democracy and you don't have to worry about their safety and they'll get a fair trial.

If people are on trial for protesting- or other things like free speech "violations"- it's not a democracy.

The media has a big role to play "on both sides" in this, our media often whitewahes Israel's behavior and does not value Arab or Muslim lives even when they are American. Middle Eastern media, there not being real opening like you could have here or in Europe, covers for Hamas and Arab govs, and more recently their patrons like Russia and China.

 

[Knight177lb]

Some of the protests were 30,000. Add all the protests together and you're into the hundreds of thousands of protesters. What percentage were arrested? When I say fair trial, I mean they will be treated fairly. It's a democracy.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Some of the protests were 30,000. Add all the protests together and you're into the hundreds of thousands of protesters. What percentage were arrested? When I say fair trial, I mean they will be treated fairly. It's a democracy.

I would argue even arresting one is undemocratic. It was here when the police arrested those covering Ferguson and beat an Australian reporter outside of when a felon held an upside down bible. It is also why some consider the US a democracy in decline.

 

[DJ Spanky]

So you don't think it's right to arrest protestors who are causing violence, property damage, etc?

 

[NotInRHouse]

So you don't think it's right to arrest protestors who are causing violence, property damage, etc?

I must have missed where hostage families are doing this. Did you confuse them with the police beaters or wall crappers...or what your party calls "hostages"?

BTW how did the fake scandal in the OP pan out in the USNWR rankings? LOL. No one cares about this crap, it is totally nonsensical.

 

[Knight177lb]

I would argue even arresting one is undemocratic. It was here when the police arrested those covering Ferguson and beat an Australian reporter outside of when a felon held an upside down bible. It is also why some consider the US a democracy in decline.

I don't think that's really a good argument. Like you said, arrests have been made here in America. I don't think we're a democracy in decline, but that's my personal opinion. A mistake is bound to be made somewhere when you have a thousand protests. Also, we don't know the details of every single arrest. Feel free to protest and say whatever you want, but don't do any damage to property or physically assault anyone. This includes preventing kids from going to class.

 

[NotInRHouse]

I don't think that's really a good argument. Like you said, arrests have been made here in America. I don't think we're a democracy in decline, but that's my personal opinion. A mistake is bound to be made somewhere when you have a thousand protests. Also, we don't know the details of every single arrest. Feel free to protest and say whatever you want, but don't do any damage to property or physically assault anyone. This includes preventing kids from going to class.

We have entire states that are not democratic. Florida bans books and sends police to people's homes for signing petitions.

Multiple hostage families (forgetting everyone else) had members arrested. Where is the proof they assaulted or damaged property?

Israel is definitely a democracy in decline, and much of the US is beyond the decline, sadly. It happens because of these suggestions that we saw here in Uvalde or now in Israel that a parent who just wants their child to live is somehow a criminal. And then it spreads to people who question the arrest of parents, and so on, until you have a Hungary or Turkey, then you have a Venezuela and eventually a Russia or China if not a North Korea.

 

[ashokan]

Koffi Annan once said the UN was so openly anti-Semetic that it was embarrassing
UN recently voted to have Israel self-destruct because of its "occupation" of a country that never actually existed.

This weekend the UN voted to move from an advisory body to an enforcement body. They've assumed a right to interfere directly in ALL countries affairs - "health"..cyber...climate charade etc - its all coming as US is pushed over a cliff Of course the loonatics (sic) in DC love this. No accidental timing with US election

Press Release | United Nations adopts ground-breaking Pact for the Future to transform global governance - United Nations Sustainable Development

United Nations Sustainable Development Goals - Time for Global Action for People and Planet

www.un.org

UN General Assembly demands Israel ends occupation of Palestinian territories

Israel denounces the Palestinian-drafted, non-binding resolution as "diplomatic terrorism".

www.bbc.com

 

[NotInRHouse]

Interesting how criticizing Israel is antisemitic, but criticizing the Jewish President of Ukraine with horribly antisemitic tropes is accepted.

Such a mystery...

 

[NealPageNJ]

Interesting how criticizing Israel is antisemitic, but criticizing the Jewish President of Ukraine with horribly antisemitic tropes is accepted.

Such a mystery...

Criticizing Israel is not antisemtic. Targeting Jews, Zionists, or Israelis because of Israel is. Lying and/or exaggerating facts to justify the targeting is. Stereotyping Jews, Zionists, or Israelis is. Intimidating Jews, Zionists or Israelis because of a conflict Israel is involved in is antisemitism. Pretending we are only seeing a critique of Israel and not open antisemitism is.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Criticizing Israel is not antisemtic. Targeting Jews, Zionists, or Israelis because of Israel is. Lying and/or exaggerating facts to justify the targeting is. Stereotyping Jews, Zionists, or Israelis is. Intimidating Jews, Zionists or Israelis because of a conflict Israel is involved in is antisemitism. Pretending we are only seeing a critique of Israel and not open antisemitism is.

I agree,

Posts from you supporting someone who says Jews will be to blame when he loses the election are anti semitic.

Posts from you supporting someone who said there were "very fine people" at a protest where "Jews will not replace us" was chanted are antisemitic.

Posts from you supporting someone who dined with Nick Fuentes and Kanye are enti semitic.

Posts from you supporting someone who said he wants "guys in yarmulkes" counting his money are antisemitic.

Posts from you supporting someone who said Hezbollah is "very smart" are antisemitic,

Posts from you supporting someone who told a group of Jewish Americans about "your Prime Minister" are antisemitic.

Posts from you supporting someone who called the Second Gentleman "a crappy Jew" are antisemitic.

Pretending that you and the rest of the far right aren't supporting and enabling antisemitism at every turn, with Trafalgar polls and Laura Loomer tweets is also antisemitic.

in other words:

There is ZERO evidence of any antisemitism at RU protests.

There is overwhelming evidence of antisemitism on the Weird board and the campaign it simps for.

Oh, and of course, being Zionist doesn't mean one is Jewish, so being antisemitic has zero to do with being anti Zionist.

Now, shouldn't you be off showing what a giant hypocrite you are by joining the circle jerk saying things about Haitians that you'd never accept being said about Jews or anyone white?