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Not sure we need vetting for the very few guys who we should even be talking to. Urban, Schiano and maybe Jones.
If we are seriously going to be offering a job to someone who needs vetting, he will be unknown to most of us, and therefore we shouldn't even be looking at him. We are screwed if the guys we are going after seriously need to be vetted. This is going to lead to Ash Part Two.
I'm kind of wondering about the total cost being right.
I bet you that the trolls we comment with "my tax money is paying for this? derp! Time to defund Rutger!"
Contract is for $88,000 I believe.
Hobbs hopefully had this in motion long ago.
Bingo. And as I was saying before, who in the athletics department is able to execute a hire of this magnitude, where there are millions in salaries, hundreds of millions in future expenses and revenues, donor ties, political ties, big ten conference and tv revenue ties, lawyers, agents, media, boards of directors, potential schools and ADs from which coach or coaches are coming...These are the guys that reach out to a coach’s agent’s intermediary so everyone can deny any interest or contact between Rutgers and a target.
it ain’t that complicated.
You, and sir post a lot, have no idea how things work, or can work, or what experience some have. Some of us do have experiential understanding, and realize clearly to place all of your posts in perspective, as it's clear you both post so authoritatively on areas you clearly have no experience in.
I know, it's a message board and a lot of bravado from some and cutting and pasting drivel from the high volume poster continues to be churned as if it's full of knowledge, but again the saying it's so doesn't make it so. That's not speculation.
Getting the right ceo is of interest to me. Educating the unsophisticated who are not savvy enough to absorb in areas they don't really know about is not something desired, especially with the caustic no nothing but pretend I do, idiocracy like vibe that's becoming ever more prevalent here.
So go ahead and keep up the multiple posting to show that your guessing is how you think things might be. Very astute, and you'll be left to it. Don't expect others to not see the nonsense baseless puffing.
To the posters here who seem to have some knowledge of how dealing with these firms works. Am I correct in believing that
A) these firms are more geared toward being a filter for behind the scenes contacts than they are for vetting. And
B) if Hobbs wants to stick to his timeline of naming a coach at the end of the season we should expect much of the preliminary work should be done within two or three weeks and live interviews or more public information will be available. Or
C) the process will stay relatively quiet and behind closed doors until a decision is finally made?
So why didn’t you do this last December
But really more cya than anything. Like hiring McKinsey or an investment bank in the real world.
Hobbs is again full of crap.
“Among the services and deliverables to be provided by Ventura Partners are leadership identification, market mapping and intelligence, outreach, internal search assistance, reference review, staff development, and industry consulting.”
What a load. We are doomed!
+1Do they have Greg Schiano's phone number?
Actually, yes.+1
Do you really need consultants to call Schiano?
At some point, this just becomes a comprehension issue.So much for no search committee. SMH. How can you trust anybody.
It's odd seeing folks complain that the athletic department is run badly and then when something, anything, happens start pining for the days when the athletic department was run like a failing mom and pop store. And that leads to complaints that the athletic department should consult fan message boards for intelligence on coaching candidates, but only some subjective subset of what's written there, and seek no intelligence on things like the market for contracts on certain types of potential candidates. If only Hobbs would just meet the potential candidates in a diner, like Grunninger, I'm sure it would all work out. It's appropriate that the post crying that the athletic department should take advice from internet message boards is at the same time a post that illustrates why the athletic department should not take advice from internet message boards.so basically we are retaining the services of the fk tards that gave us ashole in the first place... yea... i'm sure nothing can go wrong!!!.. if that stupid prick AD we have would read these boards he could see the coaches the fanbase wants(don't include sheono nut huggers) a lot of good names have been brought up that don't start with an S and end with an O
PURE FKING GENIUS!!!!!! WAY TO GO SETON HALL GUY!!!!!!!!
Who gives a shit? RU blows, will anyone not come to RU if GS tells Hobbs no? That's silly.Actually, yes.
If Schiano isn't interested, you don't want Hobbs reaching out to him directly. You potentially end up in the situation that Grunninger had when he hired Bannon, and 4 coaches turned him down directly and the public story was no one wants to coach at Rutgers and Grunninger had to settle on his 5th choice.
Who gives a shit? RU blows, will anyone not come to RU if GS tells Hobbs no? That's silly.
PISCATAWAY, N.J. (October 14, 2019) –Rutgers University Director of Athletics Pat Hobbs announced today the retention of Ventura Partners, a leading executive search and talent management agency with a diverse range of consulting and intelligence services.
"We are excited to be working with Ventura Partners,” said Hobbs. “They provide a unique range of services, including talent acquisition and development. We will begin working together immediately to ensure excellent leadership for our football program. They will also be working with us throughout the engagement on strengthening our human resources and providing market data and intelligence.”
Among the services and deliverables to be provided by Ventura Partners are leadership identification, market mapping and intelligence, outreach, internal search assistance, reference review, staff development, and industry consulting.
“Ventura Partners, a national executive search and talent management firm with a specialty practice in intercollegiate athletics, has been retained by Rutgers University to assist in the search,” said Chad Chatlos, Partner, Sports and Entertainment at Ventura. “We will work closely with Pat Hobbs, the Director of Athletics, and his leadership team on the appointment.”
Hobbs covering his ass.....waste of time and money!
Eric - "Hello Pat, nice to meet you"Who does not want this guy helping Hobbs search for a coach?
http://ventura-partners.com/our-team-2-3-3/eric-hyman/
Known as a man with high integrity, a passion for placing the student-athlete first, and building first class facilities, Eric Hyman has been involved in intercollegiate athletics for over 40 years. A five-time Director of Athletics at the highest levels of competition, Hyman has built a solid reputation for being an elite leader at the eight universities and conferences where he has served.
Highlights:
- Hired and mentored elite coaches including national coaches of the year Gary Patterson (TCU), Dawn Staley (South Carolina), Tracy Smith (ASU), and Jim Schlossnagle (TCU.)
- Elevated the athletic programs at TCU, South Carolina, Texas A&M, Miami and VMI with record fund-raising and facilities upgrades.
Involved in the $485 million redevelopment of Texas A&M’s football stadium, Kyle Field. The project was the largest stadium redevelopment in college football history.- Named Athletics Director of the Year in 2003/2004 and Regional Athletics Director of the year twice in 2010/2011 by NACDA.
- He has been a featured speaker at numerous conventions, including the NCAA Champions Forum, to speak on diversity issues in athletics; and the American Football Coaches’ Association, to guide aspiring assistant coaches on how to become a head coach.
- Has had several Heisman Trophy finalists including the winner in 2012 while at Texas A&M.
- Academic success by student-athletes has increased through APR/GPA everywhere Eric has served.
- Has developed comprehensive, long-term Strategic Plans for his departments to achieve defined, attainable goals aligning fund-raising and all external efforts with the universities.
THE HYMAN FILE
Athletics Work History
2016: Auburn University, (COO, Interim)
2012-2016: Texas A&M University (AD)
2005-12: University of South Carolina (AD)
1998-05: TCU (AD)
1995-98: Miami University (AD)
1990-95: North Carolina State University (Executive Associate AD)
1984-90: Virginia Military Institute (AD)
1982-84: Furman University (Associate AD)
1975-82: Furman University (Assistant Football Coach)
1973-75: Furman University (Graduate Assistant Football Coach)
Education:
University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, NC – Bachelor’s Degree in Education 1973
Furman University, Greenville, SC – Master’s Degree in Education Administration 1975[/vc_column_text]
There is a certain segment of idiots.The idiocy of this fan base... it's really discouraging.
For those who wish the best available with what Rutgers probably ( not outstanding but fairly competitive for 2nd their candidates) offers is hired, partnering up with a search firm is reassuring. If Rutgers offers top dollar Ventura will weed out the pretenders a lot better than Hobbs probably would be able to doThere is a certain segment of idiots.
There is also a segment that is so angry at Hobbs, they are looking for any reason to bash him.
And there is a segment that believes that Schiano wants the job and that Schiano is the only choice, so Hobbs should just reach out to Schiano and offer him whatever he wants to take the job. To that segment, retention of a search firm means their wish may not happen.
Also must consider , after the search firm looks into every possibility, Schiano might not be n their list of candidate Rutgers needs to talk to because he didn't make the cut.
Hobbs is incompetent, but his gang doesn’t want to let go of the golden goose, so this Ventura thing is just more sunglasses and BS.The idiocy of this fan base... it's really discouraging.