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Rutgers vs Illinois/ Game Thread

Very sad u r losing the vision 7 games into a complete rebuild..

All indications are the recruits realize this and the play on field this season is pretty meaningless. But let's hope they have faith.
I haven't said it's totally lost but this is becoming embarassing at this point. All I can ask for and I'm sure the same for our commits is effort. I know this year would be difficult but this is downright ugly and for this game IMO inexcusable.
 
My bold prediction...... next week we leave Minny with a win if we have a new starting QB.
 
Below average coaching. Horrible talent. Why is this so hard to understand. Both will get better. Ash stays but we need better coordinators all around.
By all accounts, most on this board LOVED these young fresh relatable assistant coaches with minimal experience...I don't know where all those posters are now...or they've changed their mind after 7 games
 
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My bold prediction...... next week we leave Minny with a win if we have a new starting QB.

Offensive line still sucks and we run our backs twice into a brick wall for 3rd and long.

It's going to be worse next week
 
I haven't said it's totally lost but this is becoming embarassing at this point. All I can ask for and I'm sure the same for our commits is effort. I know this year would be difficult but this is downright ugly and for this game IMO inexcusable.

Becoming embarrassing? We've been an embarrassing program a few years now.

It sucks we lost..and im not happy. But I still have faith. That's why the recruits are coming..they have faith in the program.
 
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I haven't said it's totally lost but this is becoming embarassing at this point. All I can ask for and I'm sure the same for our commits is effort. I know this year would be difficult but this is downright ugly and for this game IMO inexcusable.

Why should you be embarrassed? First year, rookie coach and OC, team coming off a series of losses including a close loss, a blowout, and a mega-blowout. They've shown some potential today, but were undone by some missteps. Two years from now, mid-season, we're winning 6 or seven games. Until then, just cheer them on. And rest easy.
 
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Our WRs suck. No effort. On those deep routes, WRs aren't even trying to go all out on their routes.

i don't disagree with you and i may be wrong on this but Patton and Archidiacano seem to catch much better when Gio throws. Gio definitely throws with far more zip. i think our WRs have more confidence in Gio.
 
Offensive line still sucks and we run our backs twice into a brick wall for 3rd and long.

It's going to be worse next week

Illinois DL was a strength. Best position group on the field for them. Having GR back there instead of CL will make a huge difference since his pocket presence is much better. Those runs he had would have been sacks.
 
Why should you be embarrassed? First year, rookie coach and OC, team coming off a series of losses including a close loss, a blowout, and a mega-blowout. They've shown some potential today, but were undone by some missteps. Two years from now, mid-season, we're winning 6 or seven games. Until then, just cheer them on. And rest easy.

I haven't lost total faith, but you really don't see why people are embarrassed? I believe ru was outscored 150-0 at one point? I had patient in regards to making a bowl game, but I certainly expected a little more than national laughing stock.
 
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Unless you are at the practices you have no way of making such a bold statement, maybe Gio has a limited playbook he is comfortable with, maybe Hicks fumbles a lot or struggles in las protection in practice...you just don't know...

it is also Ash's job to know who plays better in real games.
one characteristics of Schiano that i hated is that he seems to only let kids that are good in practice play. while i understand this from a disciplining perspective, it goes directly against 'player who gives us best chance to win' philosophy.
 
By all accounts, most on this board LOVED these young fresh relatable assistant coaches with minimal experience...I don't know where all those posters are now...or they've changed their mind after 7 games
not me, I questioned it from the get go. that said, I want him to succeed but knew early on he is not the guy. His gameday is worse than Gregs
 
Why should you be embarrassed? First year, rookie coach and OC, team coming off a series of losses including a close loss, a blowout, and a mega-blowout. They've shown some potential today, but were undone by some missteps. Two years from now, mid-season, we're winning 6 or seven games. Until then, just cheer them on. And rest easy.
I'm not embarassed by the losses but by how we are losing. I don't care what anyone says but Illinois was totally winnable and we just can't win at home. This team looks so lost and that is on the coaching staff too. I am not giving up on Ash just yet (that would be foolish) but I would love to see a game where we don't give up, go into a hole early, special teams look good, etc.
 
Illinois DL was a strength. Best position group on the field for them. Having GR back there instead of CL will make a huge difference since his pocket presence is much better. Those runs he had would have been sacks.

I understand, but Minny is a much better team, our playcalling has to improve
 
not me, I questioned it from the get go. that said, I want him to succeed but knew early on he is not the guy. His gameday is worse than Gregs
He might be the guy...but I think he would have been better off hiring at least some experienced coordinators...if he was going to hire lesser experienced younger position coaches like Blazek and Henry...it's crazy a first time head coach hires a coordinator with maybe two years of FBS assistant coaching experience.
 
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No HC has given him a chance... There is a very good reason for that.

Yeah. He was a freshman for the first one and the other 2 are incompetent. Sorry I was trying hard not to say that about Ash but he just lost me after today.

EDIT: He's young and maybe he'll improve with experience but right now that's my opinion.
 
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If Gio does not start next week, our coaches need their heads examined. Would even bring Rettig in 1st off the bench. This team is now in serious need of a spark.
 
If Gio does not start next week, our coaches need their heads examined. Would even bring Rettig in 1st off the bench. This team is now in serious need of a spark.
At this point Oden has already has his red shirt burned, no reason not to give him quality reps at this point and maybe run a true RPO or triple option with your other two best play makers Martin and...hicks or Harris?
 
It's not a loser mentality its being realistic. I have never bashed this team ever but I can see that they are playing uninspired and with no fight. For you or anyone to believe that our commits are not re-thinking their decision you are a fool. We have all heard the "I'm 100% committed" crap before. I don't put too much stock into words at this point but we can't even play inspired ball against freakin Illinois. Is it so much to ask to see an effort?
no but it is a loser mentality as in winners never quit and quitters never win...the stuff we learned in the era of winners and losers...priceless
 
no but it is a loser mentality as in winners never quit and quitters never win...the stuff we learned in the era of winners and losers...priceless
Well, this team has seemingly quit and packed it in well before games were over so according to you they have a loser mentality as well. There is no fight in them even when we are at home. Some of us still can bleed scarlet while criticizing what we see as being unacceptable--especially losing to 1-4 Illinois today. They aren't a top team and we are very comparable programs right now so what is the excuse today? I'm tired of excuses and just want to see good effort (a win would be better) and if that makes me have a loser mentality then so be it.
 
Well, this team has seemingly quit and packed it in well before games were over so according to you they have a loser mentality as well. There is no fight in them even when we are at home. Some of us still can bleed scarlet while criticizing what we see as being unacceptable--especially losing to 1-4 Illinois today. They aren't a top team and we are very comparable programs right now so what is the excuse today? I'm tired of excuses and just want to see good effort (a win would be better) and if that makes me have a loser mentality then so be it.
nah, i see positives on defense and I do not think they quit at all. In fact, if that pick 6 had not killed the mo, they might have made this close.
 
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