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sackenberg declares for draft

Any word on Austin Johnson? Will not miss going up against him if he declares.
 
Hope Johnson goes, they lose some good players on Defense.
 
Could never figure out why Hack and Connor Cook have been rated so high for draft ( I know Hack has dropped somewhat). Never see either of these guys have good games and it's always a ton excuses. Both like robots who don't see the pass rush.
 
Hackenburg was great his freshman year. Franklin absolutely ruined him.
 
Unfortunately next year I don't think it matters, their line backing unit will make them a top 10 defense again... Year after though we can get them
 
Could never figure out why Hack and Connor Cook have been rated so high for draft ( I know Hack has dropped somewhat). Never see either of these guys have good games and it's always a ton excuses. Both like robots who don't see the pass rush.

Connor Cook was money against us, if he had a bad or mediocre day, RU likely would have sprung the upset.

Hack, on the other hand, had like one good game after Bill O'Brien left.
 
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Unfortunately next year I don't think it matters, their line backing unit will make them a top 10 defense again... Year after though we can get them

Wrong, good DTs make LBs look good, not the other way around. I would be shocked if Austin Johnson doesn't declare for draft, and that will be 75% turnover in their Dline.
 
Could never figure out why Hack and Connor Cook have been rated so high for draft ( I know Hack has dropped somewhat). Never see either of these guys have good games and it's always a ton excuses. Both like robots who don't see the pass rush.

Yeah but the NFL is starving for pocket QB's so if they have the physical tools teams will take shots on them and try and develop them into quality NFL starters. There's just not enough quality QB's out there that can play the pro game at a high level. League has become terribly watered down at the QB position. Actually, the level of play overall in the league has dropped. Amazing how their product will never hurt by though. The TV contract money, fantasy sports, gambling, licensed team gear, etc. It's almost like they are saying "lets see how crappy we can make our product while still increasing our revenue". It's become that easy for them.
 
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Bill Obrien doesn't seem to happy with his QB position. Wouldn't be shocked to see them sync back up.
 
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Yeah but the NFL is starving for pocket QB's so if they have the physical tools teams will take shots on them and try and develop them into quality NFL starters. There's just not enough quality QB's out there that can play the pro game at a high level. League has become terribly watered down at the QB position. Actually, the level of play overall in the league has dropped. Amazing how their product will never hurt by though. The TV contract money, fantasy sports, gambling, licensed team gear, etc. It's almost like they are saying "lets see how crappy we can make our product while still increasing our revenue". It's become that easy for them.
I agree QBing in NFL sucks but I also think OL's are as watered down as QBs and a good NFL QB better be able to play well when getting rushed because s high pick will most likely have a crap OL. Like the QB from Memphis - looks like young Big Ben the way he evades rush and makes big plays.
 
I agree QBing in NFL sucks but I also think OL's are as watered down as QBs and a good NFL QB better be able to play well when getting rushed because s high pick will most likely have a crap OL. Like the QB from Memphis - looks like young Big Ben the way he evades rush and makes big plays.

Yep. The shortened rosters make the OL an issue too. Is it just me or was the NFL much better 10-15+ years ago? To me it's going the way of the NBA.

Anyway, back on topic, I think Hackenberg will be a good NFL QB.
 
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Hackenburg was great his freshman year. Franklin absolutely ruined him.

Yep, kid had promise and high NFL pick written all over him under O'Brien. Franklin comes along....well, you know and watched what happened.
 
And I was wondering who was gonna replace Eli as the Giamts qb ?
 
Entire post game press conference was transcribed and he starts off by thanking Coach OBrien and former OC John Donovan, who was just fired at the end of regular season....On other hand, Hackenburg does not mention or thank Coach Franklin at all or once in the post game press conference (I only read what was written, so if this is accurate, it says a lot).....but it tells you all you need to know about where Hackenburg's mind has been for a long time. Also places an inordinate amount of pressure on Franklin to produce next year, because the results from Hack have been underwhelming (regardless of the excuses with the offensive line) and the backup actually looked better running whatever offense they are trying to run there.

Hackenburg better produce at the next level or he will come off looking like a somewhat entitled 4* recruit that didn't play as well, once OBrien left. Maybe OBrien drafts him for the Texans, but PSU as a program has to look at the last 2 years as disappointing. Austin Johnson, the DT also declared for the NFL draft after the game as well, he's a player that looks like he'll have a long NFL career.
 
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Entire post game press conference was transcribed and he starts off by thanking Coach OBrien and former OC John Donovan, who was just fired at the end of regular season....On other hand, Hackenburg does not mention or thank Coach Franklin at all or once in the post game press conference (I only read what was written, so if this is accurate, it says a lot).....but it tells you all you need to know about where Hackenburg's mind has been for a long time. Also places an inordinate amount of pressure on Franklin to produce next year, because the results from Hack have been underwhelming (regardless of the excuses with the offensive line) and the backup actually looked better running whatever offense they are trying to run there.

Hackenburg better produce at the next level or he will come off looking like a somewhat entitled 4* recruit that didn't play as well, once OBrien left. Maybe OBrien drafts him for the Texans, but PSU as a program has to look at the last 2 years as disappointing. Austin Johnson, the DT also declared for the NFL draft after the game as well, he's a player that looks like he'll have a long NFL career.

So they lose Zettel, Nassib AND Johnson. Three very productive, veteran DL. I think Penn State's offense will be better next year but they appear to be losing A LOT on defense.
 
Entire post game press conference was transcribed and he starts off by thanking Coach OBrien and former OC John Donovan, who was just fired at the end of regular season....On other hand, Hackenburg does not mention or thank Coach Franklin at all or once in the post game press conference (I only read what was written, so if this is accurate, it says a lot).....but it tells you all you need to know about where Hackenburg's mind has been for a long time. Also places an inordinate amount of pressure on Franklin to produce next year, because the results from Hack have been underwhelming (regardless of the excuses with the offensive line) and the backup actually looked better running whatever offense they are trying to run there.

Hackenburg better produce at the next level or he will come off looking like a somewhat entitled 4* recruit that didn't play as well, once OBrien left. Maybe OBrien drafts him for the Texans, but PSU as a program has to look at the last 2 years as disappointing. Austin Johnson, the DT also declared for the NFL draft after the game as well, he's a player that looks like he'll have a long NFL career.

 
Ive heard through folks who occasionally post here Hackenburg did not get aling with Franklin at all.
 
I don't understand something. Are there that many crappy players in NFL that can be replaced by these college players who want to enter the NFL?
 
So they lose Zettel, Nassib AND Johnson. Three very productive, veteran DL. I think Penn State's offense will be better next year but they appear to be losing A LOT on defense.
They lose 1 DE, both DT, 1 safety and 1 CB. Defense takes a big hit. We lost our starting QB this year, how good was that? Their OL stays with 1 OT Leaving.
 
IMO, Hackenberg will never make in the NFL. He may have certain "measurables," but his mobility is limited, his accuracy is mediocre and his ability to read defenses seems weak.
 
worst kept secret is the total non-relationship of Hack and Franklin..

and it's not too Happy in the Valley...OC did EXACTLY what Franklin
dictated and got thrown under...we'll see if Ash can make some
inroads and get that gap closed...
 
Saw Hackenberg make any and every throw possible against Wisconsin during his freshman year. And Cook made any critical third down throw against us this year. Two of the best single game performances I've seen in the past couple of years. These guys have great arms, decent mechanics and are leaders. Think they both have good opportunities to make NFL rosters and develop into good QBs.
 
Saw Hackenberg make any and every throw possible against Wisconsin during his freshman year. And Cook made any critical third down throw against us this year. Two of the best single game performances I've seen in the past couple of years. These guys have great arms, decent mechanics and are leaders. Think they both have good opportunities to make NFL rosters and develop into good QBs.
I feel like Cook looked better than he is because his receivers bailed him out. A ton of those third down ball against us were overthrown and Cook's WRs bailed him out by snagging them.
 
IMO, Hackenberg will never make in the NFL. He may have certain "measurables," but his mobility is limited, his accuracy is mediocre and his ability to read defenses seems weak.

Plus I think he has PTSD from those 85 sacks (and countless other hits) over the past two years.
 
Hackenburg was great his freshman year. Franklin absolutely ruined him.
Franklin didn't ruin Hack, the kid had no protection. Funny thing is I think State Penn will be better without Hack. Franklin system works with a mobile QB, which he will have next year.
 
Franklin didn't ruin Hack, the kid had no protection. Funny thing is I think State Penn will be better without Hack. Franklin system works with a mobile QB, which he will have next year.
McSorley seemed to provide a spark and looked pretty good. Saw that happen in another game too.
 
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