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4th & 13 from our 40 vs a 58 yd FG - 14 sec to go

On 4th & 13 from our 40 yd line, what was the higher percentage call for ILL to make?


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What is the highest percentage on try 1?
What is the highest percentage given a miss on try 1 on try 2?

Going for it became an easier choice after the miss. Running from the 22 after receiving a pass with no timeouts took a lot of guts. Not sure if brains were involved.
 
We're focused on the TO and the last defensive play. But just watched the replay of AK's throws, and realized the player that won the game was the Illini defender that missed the tackle on Kyle for the TD.

It's 1 & 10, with 1:15 left when AK throws to Kyle, the 1st down is about the 3 yard line. If the defender had made the tackle at about the 5 yd line, it would have been 2nd & 2. You probably would then have been about another 15 or 20 seconds or more off the clock. Let's say they run for a first down of TD on 2nd & 2 with about 50 second left in the game. That was it. If that Illini defender tackled Kyle we probably win the game given the amount of time it would have taken off the clock.
 
Who the F has time to figure out all that shit you just posted. Was the coach actually analyzing that like you just did?

Uh Me! 😉. Seriously I was yelling at the screen that Bielema was an idiot to bring the FG unit out. We wanted to see that very very difficult attempt (at that point it was to me very likely giving us the win). The TO, and the failed attempt gave him the opportunity to reconsider the obvious, and we unfortunately know how that turned out.

To me it was a moron flip flop… Bielma looked like an moron for not trying to complete a 13 yard pass vs attempting a near impossible FG… then the flip occurred… GS became the moron for giving Bielema a chance to rethink the better approach. 🤬
 
Don’t blitz the house on 4th down and have Dbs standing 2 yards off first down marker. They had no timeouts and passed over the middle. Stop the first down and the game is over.

Also kicking conditions were terrible, you don’t ice the kicker on that one. Anyhow who cares 🤣
 
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These 2 are amazed how cognitively challenged the brain trusts were in the final 14 seconds.

You can almost sense how embarrassed urban is that he actually had schiano on his staff.
 
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These 2 are amazed how cognitively challenged the brain trusts were in the final 14 seconds.

You can almost sense how embarrassed urban is that he actually had schiano on his staff.
I still cant believe there are people trying to justify Greg's decisions. "Oh but he made one from far before" he made them in warm ups" blah blah blah. Its a low percentage kick regardless. Don't call a time out
 
The 3rd down play, Rutgers was close to intercepting the pass. That must have played a part in the Illinois coach to try and kick the FG. After the kick there was 12 seconds left, and the Illinois QB still had to make that 13 yard pass in the wind. He made a great play. Schiano internally is probably kicking himself for calling that TO, especially with the fairy tale go ahead TD by Monangai. But that's how it all unfolded.
 
Schiano was trying to bait them into a false start which would have been 4th and 19 or a 63 yard field goal . Pretty brilliant when you think about it !
Bullshit. How do you bait the offense to move early on a FG try ? Have a guy yell ‘hike” LOL ?

The excuses are all absurd. His strategy exploded in his face and cost the team the game.

The defense couldn’t stop the WR all day so failure to do it on 4th and 13 should have been expected. He didn’t need to score. Getting out of bounds or going down after 13 would have left time for a spike after the 1st down clock restart. Then a much shorter FG.

There were three different ways UI could win the game, and a 58 yard FG into a strong wind wasn’t one of them. Schiano’s rigidity and in-game malpractice lost the game. Period, case closed. He gave them the only opportunities to win, and they took advantage.
 
Brilliant at what? He's a career losing coach. Nothing about him says "he's the best"
Or, “halfway decent” either. As fans, he doesn’t owe us an apology. But he does owe the players and other coaches an apology.

They realize he made an idiotic decision and if he doesn’t fess up behind closed doors he’ll lose a lot of respect within the program.
 
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Bullshit. How do you bait the offense to move early on a FG try ? Have a guy yell ‘hike” LOL ?

The excuses are all absurd. His strategy exploded in his face and cost the team the game.

The defense couldn’t stop the WR all day so failure to do it on 4th and 13 should have been expected. He didn’t need to score. Getting out of bounds or going down after 13 would have left time for a spike after the 1st down clock restart. Then a much shorter FG.

There were three different ways UI could win the game, and a 58 yard FG into a strong wind wasn’t one of them. Schiano’s rigidity and in-game malpractice lost the game. Period, case closed. He gave them the only opportunities to win, and they took advantage.
lol you need to relax dude on your hatred of schiano. It was sarcasm. It was a dumb decision
 
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Uh Me! 😉. Seriously I was yelling at the screen that Bielema was an idiot to bring the FG unit out. We wanted to see that very very difficult attempt (at that point it was to me very likely giving us the win). The TO, and the failed attempt gave him the opportunity to reconsider the obvious, and we unfortunately know how that turned out.

To me it was a moron flip flop… Bielma looked like an moron for not trying to complete a 13 yard pass vs attempting a near impossible FG… then the flip occurred… GS became the moron for giving Bielema a chance to rethink the better approach. 🤬
As piss poor as our Defense was playing in the 2nd Half any FBS Team would have a better than a 50% chance to make a 1st TD with 4th Down and 13 yards.
 
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lol you need to relax dude on your hatred of schiano. It was sarcasm. It was a dumb decision
Worse than dumb. It shows rigidity and incompetence that goes beyond just the one decision.

Shelby relaxes when Shelby chooses to. It might not be until we get a new coach in 2045, but that’s ok with Shelby.
 
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