Mag has already proven he can score 12 and 6
Perhaps your argument should be Pike is a poor recruiter
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Mag has already proven he can score 12 and 6
Perhaps your argument should be Pike is a poor recruiter
All you need is a 7-8 man rotation. This rest of the team doesn’t matter. And you overrate the talent and ability of the Kentuckys and Duke of the world. They may have several highly rated recruits, but only a couple of guys are the lead dogs, the rest are complementary players. This year Kentucky was sitting with a high quality recruiting class, but they had to scramble to fill out the rest of the roster with whoever the could land very late. And they started with season with Aaron Bradshaw out with an injury. And now they are 15-4, ranked #10 in the country, and have played a hellious schedule.
lol, I said two sports, but it’s really 3.
What’s your experience
Reeks of small time and yet we still lose the best OOC games on the schedule.
We are small time until we can actually win these games. We lost to WF. So let's jump up to Duke?
How much better is the team if we get blown out by Duke?
Would that have "prepared" this years team better?
I'd rather upgrade the schedule a year too late than a year too early.
Oskar and Chol ain't gonna be here next year. Stop it. They shouldn't even see a combined minute today.
Who else is producing?? Mag, Wolf and Ogbole are also in line to be here next year. Can you count on them today?? Why would I feel comfortable without any upgrades. Can't I see where we are in mid March first?
Be realistic man....if these players don't improve much the rest of this year, it's not a lock that Dylan and Ace can carry the bulk of a non B1G roster to the NCAAs.
I didn't say a damn thing other than "Oskar and Chol ain't gonna be here next year." Geeeeesh lol....
I have no problem with UVA, but that's not what the original poster or bac and others seem to be indicating and the twisting it as if I'm saying play Stonehill or LIU.
The original poster mentioned Top FIVE programs, not top 35 programs. UNC, Duke, Kentucky, UConn, Kansas etc....those were the schools mentioned.
Somehow Alabama got mentioned in there, which I am 100% OK with. But this notion that RU has to prove something by playing a blue blood, isn't on my radar until I see improvement the rest of this season.
This current roster has too many unproductive players, playing way too many minutes as it stands today. That has to be fixed now, before jumping ahead to 2024-25, as if Ace and Dylan and the other frosh can carry 6 or 7 non B1G caliber players.
I don't know what their schedules were but I read either on this board or somewhere else that all previous CBB teams that brought in 2 of the top 5 recruits in the country in the same class made it at least to the sweet 16.
I want to eventually follow the Izzo scheduling philosophy. He plays just about anybody anywhere. We start out slow, say 2 elite teams a year (Duke, UNC, Kansas, Auburn or even a Virginia) for couple of years. We will take some lumps but still keep some cupcakes. I believe this will attract better talent. Then said a third several years down the road. To be elite you must play the best especially on national TV.
Acting like RU didn't have one of the toughest schedules so far this year is nonsense. Bac would bitch if we played the Knicks and 72 ??
For all of you who want to believe Ace should be the #1 draft pick, you will do him no favors setting him up with a mediocre schedule. Flagg is viewed as better because he is a better defender and is viewed as mentally and physically tougher than Ace. If the basketball world is watching Flagg become even more of a beast at Duke, battling the best teams in the country every week, while Ace is playing cupcakes, there is no chance Ace jumps Flagg. And Flagg will be much better prepared to make a big push in March after going up against all the best teams in November and December.
I'm good with this schedule. I agree with you that we can't have bottom 10 teams and if we do, make it just one.
I would rather lose with a good schedule than win against crap teams. At some point, the players need to just put up and win rather than hide behind poor scheduling. If that means Pike isn't retiring here, so be it.
This year is a total wash at this point, so I've already moved on to next year.
We need to get this game for next year. Hoops love stories and there's nothing better than number one vs. number two.
What the heck happened to this thread
All OP said was we need some big name games with Dylan and Ace on board and we do. No, not some out of conference tournament that no one watches, but give me Duke, Kansas, UConn, Houston, etc.
The TV networks will probably even do all the leg work to set it up
All OP said was we need some big name games with Dylan and Ace on board and we do. No, not some out of conference tournament that no one watches, but give me Duke, Kansas, UConn, Houston, etc.
The TV networks will probably even do all the leg work to set it up
We are arguing semantics
I really want to see an upgrades schedule …but I don’t think next year is the time for it …because we will have a LOT of integration of new faces to get things to mesh
Pike defense is COMPLICATED. Hint …we got massively out bounded in November and December because our defense was consistently slow in rotation …why? Lack of cohesion and experience. Also a big reason why offense is messy esrly .
Gonna be raw …
If we had an expended team …then schedule up and away. Had covid not came, remember we were in the Jimmy V and had some other games in the pipeline squashed in 2020-2021
When we had an experienced team
I just don’t think next year is the year …these guys (class of 2024) have no idea on the grind they will endure
Im pretty convinced the grind almost made 2019-2020 a NIT year …if we didn’t have the week to orepare for Maryland and Purdue ….and thsr was a junior /soph team make their second run through the big ten
I really want to see an upgrades schedule …but I don’t think next year is the time for it …because we will have a LOT of integration of new faces to get things to mesh
Pike defense is COMPLICATED. Hint …we got massively out bounded in November and December because our defense was consistently slow in rotation …why? Lack of cohesion and experience. Also a big reason why offense is messy esrly .
Gonna be raw …
If we had an expended team …then schedule up and away. Had covid not came, remember we were in the Jimmy V and had some other games in the pipeline squashed in 2020-2021
When we had an experienced team
I just don’t think next year is the year …these guys (class of 2024) have no idea on the grind they will endure
Im pretty convinced the grind almost made 2019-2020 a NIT year …if we didn’t have the week to orepare for Maryland and Purdue ….and thsr was a junior /soph team make their second run through the big ten
Getting back to the schedule , a match up vs Duke in the Jimmy V at MSG would be awesome and bedlam!
Great story line with Ace and Dylan vs Cooper Flagg as well as a packed MSG split with RU faithful and Duke subway alumni.fans.
Another big time match up agajnst a top 10/ 25 ish type of school would kick ass as well - maybe one with a little more local favor such as against Nova / St John’s. / Providence.
I like a competitive schedule so I’m hoping we play 3 name opponents in the OOC such as we did this year
Great story line with Ace and Dylan vs Cooper Flagg as well as a packed MSG split with RU faithful and Duke subway alumni.fans.
Another big time match up agajnst a top 10/ 25 ish type of school would kick ass as well - maybe one with a little more local favor such as against Nova / St John’s. / Providence.
I like a competitive schedule so I’m hoping we play 3 name opponents in the OOC such as we did this year
It will be a shame if we only have one top 40 nonconference opponent next season. We don't need five top 25 foes but it is a lost opportunity if we have zero IMO.
As for the roster... figure on the five freshmen, Griffiths, Simpson, Davis, J Williams, and Mag. Three spots left for new transfers and/or Wolf, Ogbole, Chol, Palmquist. Or Cliff on the unlikely chance he sticks around one more year.
Mag had a huge slump but I suspect it was injury related. We know what he can do when healthy as a glue, energy and D guy. Today was a great example.
Starters: Dylan, JWilliams, Ace, Gavin or Mag?... Cliff if he is back... otherwise, Lathan if he is ready, or a portal big man?
Rotation off the bench guys: Davis, Simpson, Mag/GG, backup 5, Dortch, Grant
As for the roster... figure on the five freshmen, Griffiths, Simpson, Davis, J Williams, and Mag. Three spots left for new transfers and/or Wolf, Ogbole, Chol, Palmquist. Or Cliff on the unlikely chance he sticks around one more year.
Mag had a huge slump but I suspect it was injury related. We know what he can do when healthy as a glue, energy and D guy. Today was a great example.
Starters: Dylan, JWilliams, Ace, Gavin or Mag?... Cliff if he is back... otherwise, Lathan if he is ready, or a portal big man?
Rotation off the bench guys: Davis, Simpson, Mag/GG, backup 5, Dortch, Grant
Want a game where we take over the Garden. Don’t want UConn or St.John’s for that reason.
1. NBA scouts will identify what Ace is irregardless of the schedule
2. I dont give a flying fvck about Flagg
3. Rutgers needs to Maximize chance of a successful 24-25 season and create a schedule for that…..period.
Agreed. We are in the B1G. Will be battled tested and when has NCAA ever given us the benefit of doubt? Play in game against ND. Not getting in last year.
Rather have 23-24 wins and get us to Brooklyn.
Still like Princeton game though. Helps us against slower tempo teams like Wisky and NW. Never a bad loss if you happen to lose.
Rather have 23-24 wins and get us to Brooklyn.
Still like Princeton game though. Helps us against slower tempo teams like Wisky and NW. Never a bad loss if you happen to lose.
9 cuocakes
Seton hall at rac
Duke in the garden
20 big ten games …including super Satuday on the garden
Seton hall at rac
Duke in the garden
20 big ten games …including super Satuday on the garden
No B1G teams in Garden.
Still can’t believe after giving away home game to MSU at Garden and playing them away last year…
We play MSU once away this year.
MSU will go three years not playing at RAC.
Crazy! No way in the world that should happen and if RU wasn’t protesting that, shame on AD.
If they make us play UCLA at the Garden we better hold out for some kind of benefit and Hobbs better show some intestinal fortitude for a change.
Still can’t believe after giving away home game to MSU at Garden and playing them away last year…
We play MSU once away this year.
MSU will go three years not playing at RAC.
Crazy! No way in the world that should happen and if RU wasn’t protesting that, shame on AD.
If they make us play UCLA at the Garden we better hold out for some kind of benefit and Hobbs better show some intestinal fortitude for a change.
Cannot have 9 cupcakes...that will put us 300
Some cupcakes have more frosting than others.
Too easy
UConn also played
North Carolina
Kansas
Gonzaga
Texas
If people actually read rather than to cry waaah what if we lose..no one is saying schedule 4-5 top 20 schools
UConn also plays DePaul and Georgetown 4x.
Drives me nuts when people criticize our out of conference when we all ready play 20 league games. Don’t understand how the Committee can use that as a factor when that’s already two more tough games especially in the B1G Ten which many years if not the best is certainly the deepest.
Just kinda hope we still get Indiana 2x as with our winning streak/record we are kinda developing a nice rivalry with them.
I suspect I’m in a minority as I like the Princeton game. Will always have SHU.
Could see us playing UCLA home USC away
And Washington home Oregon away for next four years as B1G could advertise Coast to Coast, East to West.
Really don’t need all that much more. So I don’t get worked up as much over out of conference schedule as already 20 games and and already have significant travel.
Drives me nuts when people criticize our out of conference when we all ready play 20 league games. Don’t understand how the Committee can use that as a factor when that’s already two more tough games especially in the B1G Ten which many years if not the best is certainly the deepest.
Just kinda hope we still get Indiana 2x as with our winning streak/record we are kinda developing a nice rivalry with them.
I suspect I’m in a minority as I like the Princeton game. Will always have SHU.
Could see us playing UCLA home USC away
And Washington home Oregon away for next four years as B1G could advertise Coast to Coast, East to West.
Really don’t need all that much more. So I don’t get worked up as much over out of conference schedule as already 20 games and and already have significant travel.
Per Ken Pom:
Rutgers Strength of Schedule so far #34
UConn Strength of Schedule so far #43
Schedule is difficult enough despite the naysayers.
And for those doubters who don’t think our D is elite. 3rd in Defensive Efficiency in the country.
Rutgers Strength of Schedule so far #34
UConn Strength of Schedule so far #43
Schedule is difficult enough despite the naysayers.
And for those doubters who don’t think our D is elite. 3rd in Defensive Efficiency in the country.
Bull crap!, you were bitching about playing cupcakes. You're the biggest crybaby around here- want me to list- there's a litany of them.
wtf is wrong with you....9 or 10 cupcakes is too many
every single school plays at least 5 or 6 of them, never said they didnt.
committee goes by net
Uconn overall 28
Uconn non conference 71
Rutgers overall 25
Rutgers non conference 164
with the way RUs schedule in the Big 10 was mostly front loaded, RUs overall schedule will probably wind up in the 30s....still very good overall and the non conference is solid enough in the middle of the pack.
princeton is down to 50 by the way, playing them at home next year isnt worth it....a Q2 game at best and quite possibly Q3
I think Princeton will always have gravitas regardless of analytics. And I think they are always better than their numbers.
A win over Princeton is a nice win and a loss isn’t so bad. Sweet 16 last year.
I think it also is helps prepare against teams like NW and Wiscy.
I just don’t think opening against them is wise. Rather have some games under our belt.
