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Nunzio probably will be gone after this season along with most of the staff on the offensive side.
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Nunzio probably will be gone after this season along with most of the staff on the offensive side.
Time to move to the final stage of grief. ACCEPTANCE
Schiano 1.0 built the program from the ground up. Similar to what pike has done. It won’t work now. Schiano would be silly to retire and Hobbs would be silly to buy him out.
No one in “NIL” world is going to win here.
I was a diehard FB fan who cut bait 6-7 years. Still watched CFB, but now college football is dead to me. NFL is superior
Schiano 1.0 built the program from the ground up. Similar to what pike has done. It won’t work now. Schiano would be silly to retire and Hobbs would be silly to buy him out.
No one in “NIL” world is going to win here.
I was a diehard FB fan who cut bait 6-7 years. Still watched CFB, but now college football is dead to me. NFL is superior
No, your assumption that's the only reason was wrong but you're right it was both. Correct.
Don't get me confused with a UT fan or someone who didn't rail on those a holes for the character crap.
We're adding USC and UCLA and only beat Indy. Do people think in a 9 game schedule we're not going to still play at least at least 3 - 4 of these monster teams each year?
Is the B1G going Winners and Losers Divisions?
We have no history of beating ANY B1G team with confidence.
We'll need to go 500 in those 6 other B1G games and sweep OOC just to get 6 wins.
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Well for one we didn't write "Schiano covered up Child Rape at Penn State" on a rock on campus just to get rid of him.
Nope. Not everyone. I thought it was low-class but understood why the fanbase didn't want him. I also spoke out strongly against hiring him.
Back then, I was being accused of being a GS hater (which was untrue). Now I'm being accused of being a GS worshiper and apologist (which is also untrue).
All you easily polarized folks need to make up your bipolar minds. 🤣
Not understanding this.
The TN fanbase and boosters didn't want GS. A ton of folks here attacked the TN fanbase for that opinion.
I don't see either side's position as being either low-class or tasteless at all. It's merely a preference for or against a coach.
Some TN fans attacked his character due to his affiliation with Paterno and potential knowledge of the Sandusky situation. But most TN fans appeared feel GS hadn't distinguished himself as a coach, which was an entirely fair and reasonable position to take.
I agree about the use of "triggered" and "karen" in debate, though. It's what people use when they cannot come up with a logical argument.
Nor did 99.9% of TN fans.Well for one we didn't write "Schiano covered up Child Rape at Penn State" on a rock on campus just to get rid of him.
I don't know about that, they spelled all the words right. There had to be more than .1% of them there to pool their brain power to achieve that feat.
The way some opposed hiring him was more than just coaching ability as reason.
That needs to be included when talking about Tennessee reneging on hiring Schiano
Al;so some Tennessee legislators expressed o[pinions that were not about coaching chops but over Greg's PSU connection
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Even those "offensive minded" coaches would struggle to get out of the bottom 10 FBS offenses with multiple shutouts a season. You'd have to pay an average QB at least a million in NIL deals to convince them to come to RU. 2+ mill for higher tier talent. Who's paying?
No average QB is getting $1m in NIL. Just because a few 5* kids are getting stupid money doesn’t mean there’s a “payscale” to all levels of talent.
I don't think it's classless and it's warranted. People invest a lot of time, money and resources into their alma maters and want the best for them. Greg didn't even do well as co DC for OSU so non RU people were not glamored by his mediocre record here
and who cares what board member think, just look how long it took for people to realize Ash was a mistake
personally I think they are all tainted by thatWell for one we didn't write "Schiano covered up Child Rape at Penn State" on a rock on campus just to get rid of him.
that said, I don't care about the rock or whatever else someone writes or says in this manner. Sticks and stones and all that is a lost concept to feelz.....
Greg sucks, he sucked 1st go round but it was masked by the ineptitude of the competition and league we were in. He made so many blunders coaching it's inexplicable to ponder.
What he does well is develop certain positions and he manages the program. He would make a great AD imho
which is viable when looking at a candidate with ties to a program and parties that covered up heinous crimes. Hell, you got people running 10-20yrs back on comments made and have them witch hunted for it. I'm not surprised by TN doing that all
I have no problem with the CC membership. Just don’t say it’s for fund raising. That’s a joke.
He also has to get into a club. Has he been accepted to one of the big ones there?
Always said his skill set seems more suited for administration. Wouldn’t be shocked if he got into politics at some point in NJ.
Has a membership at Fiddlers. Which is known more for being a corporate club.
I’m surprised they didn’t put costs in the contract. Initiation fees can vary wildly and be costly.
Sounds to me like the legislators were doing what politicians do, pandering to the popular sentiment in their state and saying, correctly as it happens, that while they are just unproven rumors, they didn't want to risk that the rumors might somehow be proven correct. I don't blame them.
I'm not Schiano's mom or dad and it's not my job to judge the rumors as true or false. Which is a good thing considering the complete lack of evidence with which to form a conclusion about it.
I like GS because he has demonstrated good character, morals, and ethics in his time at RU. But I also know that I, like you and everybody else here, don't actually have any way of knowing, for a fact, what exactly happened and who knew what about it.
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Writing the crap on the rock was low-class by whomever did it. Unarguably. It's classier to go with innocent until proven guilty and there's no proof to be had.
All the elite clubs out here have multi year waiting lists. No one jumps the line. He was previously a member at fiddlers so I’m sure that was a done deal.
Fiddlers not that much. Depending on level 15-25k I’ve heard.
Elite clubs around here are anywhere from 50-60k to 250k. But as I said many of the good ones have anywhere from a 3 -10 year waiting list.
I wouldn’t be shocked if it was much higher. Elite clubs in LA are $250-$400. I’ve heard clubs back east are even more for top shelf.
Golf must be popular. Waiting lists are long for good clubs here too. That’s just to try to get in. My club takes 10-12 members a year.
Golf must be popular. Waiting lists are long for good clubs here too. That’s just to try to get in. My club takes 10-12 members a year.
I fail to see the attraction of sitting around with a bunch of haughty muckity mucks to give myself the feeling that I have arrived. What is the attraction? Considering work, family obligations, lifting, mountain biking, and volunteering at our local fire department, don't know where I would fit a country club into my life and what value it would add. And I would be hard pressed to give up any one of those activities to make the time. Not hating, just wondering.
Well you have to love to play golf. If you have a club that fits your personality you want to hang there. We are building a new clubhouse and will have a gym in the men’s locker room so I will have another place to work out. .
My club is super fun. Great membership with a lot of interesting people. Titans of industry, well known actors, professional athletes, etc. it’s fun. As to business, it’s frowned upon, but it happens. Organically just being around people. A lot of deals have happened because of the club.
Starts with golf though. Some clubs have a healthy social membership but ours doesn’t. Some people don’t play as much and some are older and spend more time in the card room but they all played golf at some point.
All depends on what you are into and finding the right one. Or two or three.
Don’t kid yourself. Those people you call haughty mucking mucks can be fun as hell.
Thanks for that. It's not for me then. I hate golf-maybe hate is the wrong word--I just don't have the desire or time to put into it, and it is too slow-moving for me. While not anti-social, I prefer the solitude of lifting and mountain bike riding alone over a group activity like golf. I see the value to some in the camaraderie.
During the Gator Bowl, we went to the R Fund event at the Sawgrass, and me and the Mrs. laughed over how that may be one of the only times, I would be let into a place like that. As for card playing, years ago when I was interning at a firm in the South, we were leaving a firm event and the card playing guys were a bunch of crusty old grouches. I shouldn't let first impressions form my opinion and the clubs are different, but from what I saw, they don't seem to have anything that interests me.
Class would be paying for your own and your families own clothes. Class would be not nickle and diming the taxpayer for stupid shit
There are plenty of 250-500 clubs. But even Baltusrol, Plainfield, Somerset(the elites) near Rutgers are more about the exclusivity than the price tag. Not saying they are cheap but they are more the legacy type club, third fourth generation type places. Dont need to raise prices to keep people out because you’re not getting in anyway. Hahahahah
I would argue that true class would be paying for your family's clothes while also donating clothes and funding to help clothe those who cannot afford to purchase them.
Super-classy would be contributing so much in charitable donations that the resulting tax deductions entirely offset your tax burden thus not being subject to any stupid shit government might do with collected tax revenue.
Money is, after all, the root of all evil and we can't take it with us. Remember: it actually has to be virtuous for it to be virtue signaling. 😉
Nobody gets 7-8 years. Thank god we didn’t can him after 2003 or even 2004. But this time around the leash is much shorter as all coaches are overpaid.
Yeah, I just don’t see this happening for the full eight if it doesn’t get better.
Agreed, he gets 2 more years. If he doesn't get it done by then, even he has to know it's time to move on.
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