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Schiano's Role Model

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Greg Schiano's role model has always been Joe Paterno. Unfortunately for him he doesn't come close to being as good a coach as Paterno.
The one similarity between the two is their failure to admit when they have made a mistake!
 
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Sounds like Dr.Zit spent to much time in ImBadRU's classroom
You and Whitebus are obvious Schiano fans and fans of mediocrity. Do both of you back up your critical big mouths with big financial contributions? It's a shame that certain posters feel like they are privileged posters on this web site.
 
Schiano admitted in retrospect he may have waited too long to call the timeout. What else do you want him to say???
I want him to say, "In that wind, no one on this earth could make a 58 yard field goal. If Justin Tucker was standing out there, he wouldn't have made it. There was absolutely no reason to call a timeout. The best case scenario is that I gave them a look at the wind to try to gauge it and nothing more. As it turns out, I let them off the hook because they saaw it was an impossible kick and abandoned the plan. Furthermore, I should have told my QB to take his time on our final offensive drive so we didn't leave them so much time. There was no reason to snap the ball with 32 seconds on the play clock on the TD pass. Guys, I blew it. I lost this game. My players played their hearts out, and I let them down. I let all of Rutgers Nation down today. This one is one me."

That is what I want him to say.
 
I want him to say, "In that wind, no one on this earth could make a 58 yard field goal. If Justin Tucker was standing out there, he wouldn't have made it. There was absolutely no reason to call a timeout. The best case scenario is that I gave them a look at the wind to try to gauge it and nothing more. As it turns out, I let them off the hook because they saaw it was an impossible kick and abandoned the plan. Furthermore, I should have told my QB to take his time on our final offensive drive so we didn't leave them so much time. There was no reason to snap the ball with 32 seconds on the play clock on the TD pass. Guys, I blew it. I lost this game. My players played their hearts out, and I let them down. I let all of Rutgers Nation down today. This one is one me."

That is what I want him to say.
You are an idiot
 
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Schiano admitted in retrospect he may have waited too long to call the timeout. What else do you want him to say???
He said that in the context of prepping the D for a fake, not admitting the kick was impossible.

Had he known like everyone with a brain knew that the kick would be DOA there’s no reason to take a timeout at all, early or late.

the situation clearly contraindicated a fake 100%.

The HC is an idiot.
 
He said that in the context of prepping the D for a fake, not admitting the kick was impossible.

Had he known like everyone with a brain knew that the kick would be DOA there’s no reason to take a timeout at all, early or late.

the situation clearly contraindicated a fake 100%.

The HC is an idiot.
So you're saying that the opposing coach (who I assume has a brain) knew that the kick would be DOA yet still initially his kicker out there to kick it?
 
I want him to say, "In that wind, no one on this earth could make a 58 yard field goal. If Justin Tucker was standing out there, he wouldn't have made it. There was absolutely no reason to call a timeout. The best case scenario is that I gave them a look at the wind to try to gauge it and nothing more. As it turns out, I let them off the hook because they saaw it was an impossible kick and abandoned the plan. Furthermore, I should have told my QB to take his time on our final offensive drive so we didn't leave them so much time. There was no reason to snap the ball with 32 seconds on the play clock on the TD pass. Guys, I blew it. I lost this game. My players played their hearts out, and I let them down. I let all of Rutgers Nation down today. This one is one me."

That is what I want him to say.
He said, “I have to coach better”. That’s good enough for me.
 
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So you're saying that the opposing coach (who I assume has a brain) knew that the kick would be DOA yet still initially his kicker out there to kick it?
I said previously that decision was also incredibly stupid, but the Idiot of All Idiots bailed him out. If those two stood next to each other ear-to-ear in gale force winds the air rushing through their lined-up heads would sound like an Aztec Death Whistle.
 
It would be curious to see GS in his Michael Jackson sox running to the bathroom
 
Greg Schiano's role model has always been Joe Paterno. Unfortunately for him he doesn't come close to being as good a coach as Paterno.
The one similarity between the two is their failure to admit when they have made a mistake!
Like allowing pedd state to happen for 20+ years when they both knew?
 
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I want him to say, "In that wind, no one on this earth could make a 58 yard field goal. If Justin Tucker was standing out there, he wouldn't have made it. There was absolutely no reason to call a timeout. The best case scenario is that I gave them a look at the wind to try to gauge it and nothing more. As it turns out, I let them off the hook because they saaw it was an impossible kick and abandoned the plan. Furthermore, I should have told my QB to take his time on our final offensive drive so we didn't leave them so much time. There was no reason to snap the ball with 32 seconds on the play clock on the TD pass. Guys, I blew it. I lost this game. My players played their hearts out, and I let them down. I let all of Rutgers Nation down today. This one is one me."

That is what I want him to say.
What you don’t know is that the Illinois kicker made a 62 yarder during warmups & that is why Beliema tried it also, RU has coaches watching warmups & knew that the kid had the leg to hit it under those conditions
 
I said previously that decision was also incredibly stupid, but the Idiot of All Idiots bailed him out. If those two stood next to each other ear-to-ear in gale force winds the air rushing through their lined-up heads would sound like an Aztec Death Whistle.
Interesting. You know football better than Bret Bielema who was standing on the field and knew that his kicker made it from 62 yards pre-game in a swirling wind.
 
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So you're saying that the opposing coach (who I assume has a brain) knew that the kick would be DOA yet still initially his kicker out there to kick it?
He did! He thought he had a 25-30 percent chance considering he was in 4 and long. His mistake was forgetting that Clown Schiano was on the other sideline. If he remembered in the moment he would have gone for it.

Then the clown called time out after the kick and Beilma realized “oh that’s right it’s Greg.”

He was then smart enough to send out a prepared offense with a great play design. Clown wasn’t ready sent out the wrong personal and the D not all running the same play. lol
 
What you don’t know is that the Illinois kicker made a 62 yarder during warmups & that is why Beliema tried it also, RU has coaches watching warmups & knew that the kid had the leg to hit it under those conditions
I was there. I saw warmups. I also saw halftime kicking. I also felt the wind at that moment. There was no way he was making that. And if he did. If there was a miracle gust. You live with it.
 
So you're saying that the opposing coach (who I assume has a brain) knew that the kick would be DOA yet still initially his kicker out there to kick it?

Actually yes. He said post-game that he knew HC Schiano would call a TO.
Said he saw HC Schiano across the field and knew he had TOs to burn.

So he knew they were going to get a free chance to evaluate the feasibility.
 
Actually yes. He said post-game that he knew HC Schiano would call a TO.
Said he saw HC Schiano across the field and knew he had TOs to burn.

So he knew they were going to get a free chance to evaluate the feasibility.
But he didn't know that Schaino would let the kick actually happen by calling for a time out a little too late.
 
Greg Schiano's role model has always been Joe Paterno. Unfortunately for him he doesn't come close to being as good a coach as Paterno.
The one similarity between the two is their failure to admit when they have made a mistake!
We have no idea how good a coach Paterno would have been at Rutgers instead of Penn State. He had the full support of The Cult. They hid all sorts of criminality among the players and staff and, no doubt, probably did not require much in the way of academics.

Franklin is considered a good coach now and he is an idiot. the Cult provided all the support he needs to look good.

Paterno won with Jimmys and Joes, not Xs and Os.
 
But he didn't know that Schaino would let the kick actually happen by calling for a time out a little too late.

Yes he did. you fell for Schiano’s after the fact lie. Schiano called it late intentionally so there’d be a rekick, like he always does. Bielema knew that too.
 
Yes he did. you fell for Schiano’s after the fact lie. Schiano called it late intentionally so there’d be a rekick, like he always does. Bielema knew that too.
Wrong again. It’s amazing how much you pull out of your ass to fit your agenda.

Question-did Schiano freeze the Washington kicker with 3 seconds to go in the game before or after a kick attempt was made?? We’ll await your answer…
 
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Shelby Wrong again. It’s amazing how much you pull out of your ass to fit your agenda.

Question-did Schiano freeze the Washington kicker with 3 seconds to go in the game before or after a kick attempt was made?? We’ll await your answer…
Awaiting Shelby’s response.
 
But he didn't know that Schaino would let the kick actually happen by calling for a time out a little too late.

Did it matter when Schiano called the TO?
Maybe he told the long snapper "just wait until he calls the TO then snap it anyway".

There was like 12 seconds left on the play clock.
Just because they were lined up doesn't mean they were going to snap it then.
 
Did it matter when Schiano called the TO?
Maybe he told the long snapper "just wait until he calls the TO then snap it anyway".

There was like 12 seconds left on the play clock.
Just because they were lined up doesn't mean they were going to snap it then.
Of course it does. Schiano could have called a time out just as they were setting up and the kick wouldn’t have gone off. Similar to what he did against Washington.
 
Someone hit on it above- We have two HC's with about 40 years of experience between them both make the same mistake on the same call. BB sent the kicker out and actually kicked it and GS called the timeout allowing the kicker to gauge it.
The funny thing- watching on TV- the kick looked like it was plenty long enough but wide left. My fear at that point was that the kicker now had his line set and he was going to make it.

even the announcers said it had plenty of leg on the kick. - We have since learned that it was 10 yds short.

Greg's big mistake was the timeout too late. You do need to call it with 3 seconds. If he did, I feel BB would have still tried to kick and we win.

The real screwup was not being prepared for the pass. I understand the blitz- couple of good things can happen for us- we rush the QB's throw and he doesn't make a play, we get him to scramble around and even if he hits the 1st down, most likely time runs out, or he gets sacked or he checks down and the player that catches it, has to make a play to even get to 1st down and again, good chance time runs out.
The ONE thing we could not let happen was for a WR to catch the ball past the 1st down marker. And the 7 man blitz opened that exact hole.
 
Someone hit on it above- We have two HC's with about 40 years of experience between them both make the same mistake on the same call. BB sent the kicker out and actually kicked it and GS called the timeout allowing the kicker to gauge it.
The funny thing- watching on TV- the kick looked like it was plenty long enough but wide left. My fear at that point was that the kicker now had his line set and he was going to make it.

even the announcers said it had plenty of leg on the kick. - We have since learned that it was 10 yds short.

Greg's big mistake was the timeout too late. You do need to call it with 3 seconds. If he did, I feel BB would have still tried to kick and we win.

The real screwup was not being prepared for the pass. I understand the blitz- couple of good things can happen for us- we rush the QB's throw and he doesn't make a play, we get him to scramble around and even if he hits the 1st down, most likely time runs out, or he gets sacked or he checks down and the player that catches it, has to make a play to even get to 1st down and again, good chance time runs out.
The ONE thing we could not let happen was for a WR to catch the ball past the 1st down marker. And the 7 man blitz opened that exact hole.
On the last play, I think Illinois is playing for the FG, because with the first down, clock stops, they reset the chains, and they kick the field goal.

As I see it, the biggest issue was we had a true freshman out there, rather than Eric Rogers, who was knocked out on a prior play. At the very least, I think Rogers gets #13 on the ground. Not only did the true freshman not make the play, but he blocked the other defenders from making the play.

USC ran a similar play, but from the opposite side of the field, for a touchdown.

I have no problem with the blitz call because the quarterback has to make a good throw under pressure, and the hope is that we can knock it down. Kid made a perfect throw and took a shot.
 
On the last play, I think Illinois is playing for the FG, because with the first down, clock stops, they reset the chains, and they kick the field goal.

As I see it, the biggest issue was we had a true freshman out there, rather than Eric Rogers, who was knocked out on a prior play. At the very least, I think Rogers gets #13 on the ground. Not only did the true freshman not make the play, but he blocked the other defenders from making the play.

USC ran a similar play, but from the opposite side of the field, for a touchdown.

I have no problem with the blitz call because the quarterback has to make a good throw under pressure, and the hope is that we can knock it down. Kid made a perfect throw and took a shot.
The problem still is that after the WR makes the catch past the 1st down- they have a chip shot that most kickers can make even in shitty wind. Our only chance after he caught it would be for him to not get tackled on first hit but have him get hit and continue to try to score and time runs out. It was all about NOT letting him catch it clean past the 1st down.
 
The problem still is that after the WR makes the catch past the 1st down- they have a chip shot that most kickers can make even in shitty wind. Our only chance after he caught it would be for him to not get tackled on first hit but have him get hit and continue to try to score and time runs out. It was all about NOT letting him catch it clean past the 1st down.
Look at the replay. We were clearly conceding the catch as every DB was in their backpedal, well past the first down marker, with the intent that the receiver wasn’t supposed to get past them. He made an uncontested catch, but should have been tackled.

 
Look at the replay. We were clearly conceding the catch as every DB was in their backpedal, well past the first down marker, with the intent that the receiver wasn’t supposed to get past them. He made an uncontested catch, but should have been tackled.

and that was the worst call- there was 8 seconds left when he caught the ball at about the 20. I'm actually surprised the WR's were not instructed to go to the ground as soon as they reached 1st down. To allow a catch in that situation is just mind boggling.
 
and that was the worst call- there was 8 seconds left when he caught the ball at about the 20. I'm actually surprised the WR's were not instructed to go to the ground as soon as they reached 1st down. To allow a catch in that situation is just mind boggling.
Agreed!

Watch the play again concentrating on the the other 2 receivers. Tell me if I’m wrong . Didn’t they both beat our defenders deeper or at least some separation? I have no clue what our DBs were doing
 
It is 100% on the DB's- the guys got after the QB and crushed him on the throw- Powell was obviously shadowing the QB in case he broke free and tried to run for the 1st down and as soon as he saw it was a pass, he dropped back. The DB's- just makes no sense at all- 1st down turns the chances of a win for Illinois to maybe 70%. In what world do you have your DB's sit behind the 1st down marker?

Since we played it like that- we would have been better off just going man to man and leave our 4rth guy free to roam.
 
I want him to say, "In that wind, no one on this earth could make a 58 yard field goal. If Justin Tucker was standing out there, he wouldn't have made it. There was absolutely no reason to call a timeout. The best case scenario is that I gave them a look at the wind to try to gauge it and nothing more. As it turns out, I let them off the hook because they saaw it was an impossible kick and abandoned the plan. Furthermore, I should have told my QB to take his time on our final offensive drive so we didn't leave them so much time. There was no reason to snap the ball with 32 seconds on the play clock on the TD pass. Guys, I blew it. I lost this game. My players played their hearts out, and I let them down. I let all of Rutgers Nation down today. This one is one me."

That is what I want him to say.
Absolutely. Well said.
 
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