Also keep in mind that a line in the mid-20s can move a lot more rapidly than a line around six. Anyway, I don't care about betting lines. Sports books are trying to make money, not predictions.
Seattle Times: Huskies, a 26-point favorite against Rutgers, eager for Saturday’s season opener
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Also keep in mind that a line in the mid-20s can move a lot more rapidly than a line around six. Anyway, I don't care about betting lines. Sports books are trying to make money, not predictions.
Because I have confidence in this staff to have swagger on the field and to play hard with s greT game plan behind them. But to have our fans in a verbal pissing match when we have done nothing yet makes us look foolish. Let's just stop the trash talking and let the players do their thing. We are in for some surprises in a good way.
Yeesh 27 is an ugly number. Kyle freaking flood. Appalachian state @ Tennessee isn't even that high
And again, why are we supposed to shut up?
Wah wah- you won 7 games, you so strong, we suck, we no good - I have no right to think we can win - wah wah
Is that better?
I learned long ago that the best time to talk smack is in the offseason. That's when everyone's team is undefeated. :)
No, that is not what he's known for. He's known for being an average, at best, reciever. This won't be much of a loss.
Ahhh I'm not a trash talker by nature. Nothing tastes worse than your own words.
That said, 26 points is way too high, but UW is the reasonable favorite in this game. Coaching staff in place three years, better defense, more depth, and playing at home.
My guess is a hard fought defensive battle though a half with UW's depth (it seems clear they have more talent on the 2nd, and even 3rd, levels on the depth chart) enabling them to pull away in the second half for a win in the 12 - 16 point range.Not 26, too much.
BTW, weather forecast as of now pretty good = mixed clouds and sun, high 60s.
That said, 26 points is way too high, but UW is the reasonable favorite in this game. Coaching staff in place three years, better defense, more depth, and playing at home.
My guess is a hard fought defensive battle though a half with UW's depth (it seems clear they have more talent on the 2nd, and even 3rd, levels on the depth chart) enabling them to pull away in the second half for a win in the 12 - 16 point range.Not 26, too much.
BTW, weather forecast as of now pretty good = mixed clouds and sun, high 60s.
http://www.espn.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/135739/big-ten-season-preview-rutgers-scarlet-knights
Big Ten season preview: Rutgers Scarlet Knights
Big Ten season preview: Rutgers Scarlet Knights
I call utter BS on the spread......... These ain't the '83 Bears....
I don't care what you think about Laviano (and I expect much improvement)... you ain't keeping Martin, Goodwin, Hicks, Sneed at RB. Archidiacono, Patton, Tsimis, Grant, Agudosi at receiver totally shut down.......
and the world doesn't seem to understand - we're not playing 3 Freshmen with a total of 0 game experience at CB this year.
I was actually in Vegas for a metal/rock festival at the Hard Rock this weekend. I am completely new to sports betting, but I saw the spread at 26 and plunked down $100. I made some high risk/high reward hockey bets ($30 each on Sweden winning the World Cup of Hockey and the Ducks winning the Stanley Cup because they have big payouts and both seem reasonably likely), so even if I don't win either of those, I'll still come out ahead as long as Rutgers covers the spread.
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I hope I don't get banned from this board after Washington wins this Saturday by a score of 52 - 24.
Nope, you'll come back next preseason since Rutgers will have already ruined this year for you.
Clean out your cookies for the site and your limit is reset. I just had to do it myself. Same holds true for the Asbury Park Press.
Sounds pretty reasonable, though obviously I'd like to see Rutgers walk away with the win.
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No it's not better. That is a whiny baby version. I'm talking about being like our coach full of confidence and juice but silent strong and classy. Let the play speak for us all.
I don't know your talent like you do, but their past results would suggest they are below average for your league or for the Pac 12 (acknowledging that the coaching change is likely to help their productivity). Given that last year UW's defense was #1 in Pac 12 and is likely to be better this year, is it reasonable to project that Rutgers would produce an above average result -- i.e., something in the 20s-- against that defense?
I see that line being due to Rutgers being underrated. I'd say Washington is also being overrated as well, but I really don't know enough about that team.
Yes. Our coaching and offensive game plan was offensive an unimaginative. It starts in the trenches. Our OL is solid with lots of experience. Couple that with the new coaching and a good game plan, along with a likely kick or punt return for a TD, 20's is reasonable.
Here are WU's opponents, their scoring offense rank, and points scored
Boise #15 - 16 points
Sacramento State (does not count)
Utah State- #64--17 points
Cal- #17- 30 points
USC- #37-- 12 points
Oregon-#5- 26 points
Stanford #18- 31 points
Arizona-#20- 3 points
Utah-#55- 34 points
Az. State- #32--27 points
Oregon State- #116- 7 points
Washington State- #49 (QB out) 10 points
Southern Miss- #13- 31 points
Last year, Rutgers was #78 in scoring offense.
Think it is reasonable to perform as well as Utah or Utah State with our revamped offense. But you guys had some pretty solid performances against AZ, USC, and Boise, so would not be surprised if we are held to under 20 points.
I was on vacation in Vegas last week. Got 27 at the Golden Nugget downtown. Also, the over/under for RU regular season wins was 4 1/2. I put a hundy on the over.
Here are WU's opponents, their scoring defense rank, and points scored by WU
Boise #18 - 13 points
Sacramento State (does not count)
Utah State- #61--31 points
Cal- #89- 24points
USC- #50-- 17 points
Oregon-#115- 20 points
Stanford #32- 14 points
Arizona-#107- 49 points
Utah-#31- 23 points
Az. State- #99--17 points
Oregon State- #113- 52 points
Washington State- #74 45 points
Southern Miss- #49- 44 points
WU finished strong last year. Seems you guys got off to a slow start last year against Boise, Cal and USC. Rutgers was #104 in scoring defense, but our coaching was abysmal, and we had all frosh on the field in the secondary except for Cioffi.
Looking at both sets of stats, I am hard pressed to see a 26 point margin of victory as a slam dunk. Possible--sure. I can see 10-15 points, or Rutgers winning closely, but my glasses are always scarlet and my glass is always more than half full of Rutgers Kool Aid.
Boise #18 - 13 points
Sacramento State (does not count)
Utah State- #61--31 points
Cal- #89- 24points
USC- #50-- 17 points
Oregon-#115- 20 points
Stanford #32- 14 points
Arizona-#107- 49 points
Utah-#31- 23 points
Az. State- #99--17 points
Oregon State- #113- 52 points
Washington State- #74 45 points
Southern Miss- #49- 44 points
WU finished strong last year. Seems you guys got off to a slow start last year against Boise, Cal and USC. Rutgers was #104 in scoring defense, but our coaching was abysmal, and we had all frosh on the field in the secondary except for Cioffi.
Looking at both sets of stats, I am hard pressed to see a 26 point margin of victory as a slam dunk. Possible--sure. I can see 10-15 points, or Rutgers winning closely, but my glasses are always scarlet and my glass is always more than half full of Rutgers Kool Aid.
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Being overlooked may work to our advantage! Hopefully the pups come in...bored, uninterested, and completely unenergized...after all the season doesn't start for a few weeks for them!
These early sept pre-season college football games...what a bother!![winking]
These early sept pre-season college football games...what a bother!![winking]
First game of the season, it's at home and it's vs a P5 opponent (Rutgers). They'll be up for this game for sure.
You have to look below the surface of comparative scores to appreciate UW defense: many of their problems were created by offensive turnovers.
For example:
1. Utah State scored 17 only b/c they returned a UW fumble 97 yards for TD
2. Utah scored 24 pts after UW turnovers: fumble led to 17 yd TD drive, an 8 yd TD drive after an INT, a FG after a fumble recovery, and a fumble recovery returned for a 54 yd TD. Utah's offense was largely stifled.
3. UW had 5 turnovers vs Cal or would have held them in teens
We could go on. Obviously, if Rutgers' D can get UW to turn the ball over, you can have opportunities like those teams. Otherwise, scoring will be very challenging.
Look at Stanford: your offensive line may be big and experienced but is not at their level from last year, as evidenced by the whipping they gave Iowa in the Rose Bowl. UW held Stanford more than ten points under their average despite having no offense whatsoever with Browning out that game.
A Rutgers victory will have to come from their defense stuffing UW and creating turnovers, something a number of teams obviously did last year-- when the Huskies were starting 4 freshmen.
I could give you list of reasons why we were 4-8 last year in each game we lost, but I am afraid my post would break this message board and/or the internet. :joy: (we sucked).
Oh UW too -- didn't mean to play the ifs and buts game, just wanted to highlight that the issue for UW is not their defense (which everyone seems to want to downplay) but their offense. The defense is as good as you will play this year -- their offense, far from it.
That's what I am figuring. And maybe that is why 26 points seems too high. I could see the game being a defensive struggle, with neither team scoring more than 20-24 points. Season openers are always dicey--remember WSU lost to Portland State last year, and they had a pretty good season until their QB went down. Would have loved to see how WU/WSU turned out with their starting QB.
Falk played against UW in 2014 Apple Cup at WSU. UW won, 31-14, after leading 31-0.
http://campusinsiders.com/news/washington-vs-rutgers-prediction-game-preview-08-28-2016
Washington vs Rutgers Game Preview
Washington vs Rutgers Game Preview
The Huskies may realistically win the PAc12. 7 win teams that return EVERY player tend to be quite monstrous the following year. Petersen has quite a bit of talent to work with. I absolutely hate defeatist loser talk but they have a right to be cocky... This one will get ugly.
Washington isn't cocky ... it's the media doing this. ok... maybe we're a little cocky ... but the media is going overboard imo. 2017 should be Washington's breakout year ... at least on paper that is.
http://www.theolympian.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/article98759792.html
Why preparing for Rutgers is a challenge for the Huskies
Why preparing for Rutgers is a challenge for the Huskies
Meh. Article kinda sucked. But thanks for sharing
Author provided zero information about Rutgers other than last year's stats.... and proceeded to write a novel about Washington. I question his knowledge on the matchup other than copying what Vegas says
Campus Insiders sucks .. I just posted that because that's all I had at the time. :P
