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I know that the QB position is the hot topic and I also understand why. However, what is going to happen to players like Flanagan? Outside of Carroo, he was arguably the best pure receiver on the team and Nakia Griffin was supposed to break out next year as well.
 
I know that the QB position is the hot topic and I also understand why. However, what is going to happen to players like Flanagan? Outside of Carroo, he was arguably the best pure receiver on the team and Nakia Griffin was supposed to break out next year as well.

Our spread offense makes extensive use of the tight end. See Aaron Hernandez at Florida and Jeff Heuerman and Nick Vannett at OSU. The FB, on the otherhand, has been eliminated.
 
Our spread offense makes extensive use of the tight end. See Aaron Hernandez at Florida and Jeff Heuerman and Nick Vannett at OSU. The FB, on the otherhand, has been eliminated.
The 'Power' Spread that tOSU uses employs many formations including those with 1 TE, 2 TE's and a FB. You will see multiplicity of personnel/formation groupings in the formations being used next year.
 
Players like that will be utilized in the H spot or split out to create mismatches.
 
Chip Kelly almost exclusively has 1 or 2 TEs on the field (either attached or split out). Keeping at least one on the line allows you to diversify your protection schemes.

Spurrier was famously blitzed out of the NFL in part because his protection schemes in his 4 & 5 wide sets were too predictable.
 
Using a spread does not equal one formation or personnel grouping. With the new offense, I'd expect we will see very little of a fullback, but the TE will get a lot of time. Ash has said that he wants to be "multiple", and we know that Mehringer loves to push the tempo and run a lot of plays, so versatile players who can line up in multiple positions (which generally describes the TE) will see a lot of time in this O . The key will be keeping the same personnel on the field, but lining up in different formations quickly so the D can't substitute or adjust.

Chip Kelly almost exclusively has 1 or 2 TEs on the field (either attached or split out). Keeping at least one on the line allows you to diversify your protection schemes.

Yep. He keeps Celek and Ertz out there for a lot of plays and has them alternate blocking and receiving roles. Here's a quote from his first Eagles season about TE usage:
You might remember Chip Kelly‘s entertaining response to the tight end question back in April, when he was asked to explain how he can make it work with Brent Celek, James Casey and Zach Ertz all vying for playing time.

“Yeah. You go like that (holds three fingers in the air) and three tight ends go in the game,” he said.

“We are going to go three tight ends in a game. Now, do they go three linebackers? We split them out and throw passes. If they go three DB’s, we smash you. So, pick your poison. Simple game. Isn’t hard. You guys thought coaching was hard. They bring little guys in, you run the ball. They bring big guys in, you throw the ball.”
 
We'll probably see less use of a TE who was recruited more for his blocking skills vs his receiving skills. I'd think the FB would need to be more versatile and not be pigeon holed as a blocker. Maybe we'll see more use of dual RB's (i.e. Hicks & Martin).

So more spread the defense, less power running up the middle.
 
Another good thread on spread formations. The FB will have to fit into an HB role. The TE will be used either in pass or protection schemes with a release option. However, key in all of this will be a QB that is accurate, can do quick reads, and has a quick release. A strong arm is a positive to further stretch the field.
 
Will be interesting to see how prominent our TE/H-Backs will be in the new offense. I've always though we tended to under-use them when it comes to receiving, but maybe that's as much on the QB's than the actual scheme/play call.

Excited about the possibilities for guys like Nakia and even some of the bigger WR's. Figure there will be a lot of motion to disguise the blocking schemes & create mismatches.
 
Pro-style and spread formations in college football
In college football the debate between pro-style and spread offenses often boils down primarily to the size and skillsets of the players used in the H and Y positions on the field.

For instance, a modern formation many would regard as being pro-style:



pro-style_1.0.jpg



When there is a tight end player at the Y spot who's 6'2" 240 or bigger and either another similarly sized player at the H or else a fullback (generally sub 6'2" and 220 or bigger) then you are looking at what many will call a pro-style offense.

Of course, if it looks like this:



pro-style_shotgun.0.jpg



It may very well be described as a "spread" offense even though all you've done is move the quarterback and running back a few paces while leaving everyone else in the same place. The major reason a team with bigger personnel at the H and Y positions would put a QB in the shotgun like this is to run option plays such as "zone read."

Then there's the pure spread offense, which generally replaces those bigger bodies at the H and Y positions with receivers that may range from 5'6" to 6'4" but generally weigh less than 230 pounds and specialize at either route running or catching short passes and running in open space.



spread_1.0.jpg



Teams will use smaller players here to execute the passing game with better receivers, get small and fast players in space, and to get the "spread out" effect on the defense that creates room to run the ball.

As many teams have learned over the years, and Oregon and Ohio State have demonstrated in their hunt for the national title, it can be easier to just space out defenders rather than trying to knock them all out of the way.

Interestingly, if a team does something like this they may not necessarily be considered a spread team but can preserve their "pro-style" street cred while running spread concepts:



pro-style_2.0.jpg



Florida State commonly uses formations such as this that will feature a tight end at the H spot who can both block and run routes, but then a 3rd receiver at the Y position and a QB aligned under center. They'll also run more classical pro-style formations like the first one drawn shown but they are generally keen on getting as many receivers out into passing patterns as possible for QBs like Jameis Winston.

Then there are several spread teams, like West Virginia, that make heavy use of formations such as this one:



Spread-I_formation.0.jpg



You can call this a "Spread-I Formation" and the H position is generally occupied by a player who most closely fits the profile of a fullback, although he might be a taller player who also serves as a TE. At any rate, for this formation's best concepts to work the player needs to be a great blocker and needn't be a good receiver.

That means that the Spread-I shown above can be more of a smashmouth, run-centric approach than a "pro-style" formation like the one above that Florida State often uses. While the 'Noles are getting four good receivers out into patterns quickly (and often the RB as well), West Virginia in the Spread-I only have three receivers that can easily get out into a pattern.

Nevertheless, the Spread-I gets the "spread" moniker while the more pass-friendly eleven personnel set (three WRs, one TE) from Florida State is labeled as pro-style.

Then there's this: very few teams exclusively play just receivers or just tight ends and fullbacks at H and Y. Many teams even strive to be "multiple," meaning that they can put bigger bodies on the field and hammer you from under center or spread receivers around the field and sling it around from the shotgun.

This isn't generally that hard either, structurally, as spread teams and pro-style teams are often using the exact same passing concepts just with different players and a few different routes.

A concept like "snag" is common both from a spread team:



Spread_snag.0.jpg



As well as a pro-style team:



Pro-style_snag.0.jpg



So what's the difference?
You can boil down the reason behind why teams are labelled as spread or pro-style teams not in how they use their H and Y positions, which is arguably most important, but whether they are in the shotgun or not.

If a team is under center even a modest amount of time, someone is going to call them a "pro-style" attack, even if they are a four-receiver run and shoot team. If a team runs option-plays from the shotgun on a regular basis, even if they are frequently doing so with tight ends and fullbacks on the field, they are going to be frequently labelled as a shotgun spread.

In general, any team that uses the option is not going to be counted as a pro-style team, even those the pros have started to incorporate some modern option looks.

In reality, a better metric is how often they flex out the H and Y positions in order to "spread" out the defense by alignment and use spacing to attack opponents. Teams that play larger bodies packed in tight aren't looking to use pre-snap spacing to attack their opponents but rather brute force and leverage at the line of scrimmage in combination with post-snap vertical stress.

Of course, the spread-I does both.

Pace is also confused with "spread" as spread teams are better known for using up tempo tactics while pro-style teams are only now catching on to the advantages.

Considering that many pro teams use both or either approach, in the future it might be best to retire the phrase "pro-style" in favor of something that more accurately describes offenses that go under center with big bodies at H and Y.

What's better?
Since both have track records of success with league and national titles to their credit, this really just depends on the kinds of players a program can reasonably expect to find and develop. The reason that the spread has really taken hold at smaller schools is that it's easier to find smaller athletes who can do damage at space than bigger bodies who can physically dominate opponents in the trenches.

Similarly, much of the hesitation from bigger schools about going spread is in the fact that if you can physically dominate your opponent, why would you choose any other path? There's simply no answer for a team that can knock you down and in an inherently violent game this approach makes a great deal of sense.

If a team isn't depending on using the QB in the running game there's often enough flexibility in some systems to recruit the best players available and then either emphasize spread or packed-in formations based on which style best suits the players on campus.

In that event, a team has to be sure to have some big bodies to help the running game though or else they risk losing their balance. It's not hard to find bruisers who can serve primarily to create angles in the running game but if a team recruits only receiving talent at the H and Y positions, be they tight ends or slot receivers, they may still struggle to run the ball.

Another reason teams may choose one or the other would be whether they are playing in warm weather or cold weather environments. What's the last thing a defensive player wants to do in the heat? Chase fast people around. What's the last thing he wants to do in the cold? Endure repeated collisions with big people.

Why not both?
Lots of coaches will say "we want to be multiple" and "either spread and throw or run depending on situation" with loaded rosters of versatile talent. In reality, this is much easier said than done.

If you look at the approach of teams that use the tight end position heavily, you'll see that they recruit real numbers at that position to ensure they have the needed talent. Similarly, spread passing teams snatch up as many receivers as they can to ensure they have the difference makers they need for their system to work.

So is it possible to truly be multiple enough to switch back and forth between using two difference-making big bodies at tight end OR two electric slot receivers? Generally the answer is no, 2014 Alabama notwithstanding.

However, there are ways in which teams can be multiple and effective using lots of different formations. The first way is simply to find players that can do both. Iowa State'sEJ Bibbs lined up at H-back, tight end, slot receiver, and even as an outside receiver.

It takes a smart and versatile player to do all that but if a team can find tight ends who both block and run routes well there's no reason they couldn't also move all over the field. When the New England Patriots had Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski they were able to bring a wide variety of formations and tactics, either using their size to bulldoze opposing defenses or their route running to spread them and tear them apart.

No one could match up.

Of course, in lieu of finding such tremendous talent, there are some other options.

The Spread-I excels at mixing smashmouth and spread tactics by relying on the positional types in each system that are easiest to find, namely the effective slot receiver or the quality fullback, rather than finding the rare talents like the dual-threat tight end.

Another solution would be Boise State's "total roster" approach. The Broncos will recruit bigger bodies in order to play some pro-style schemes that pay special attention to creating leverage in the running game by moving big bodies around and playing games with the defensive front.

They'll also bring aboard speedsters and anyone who could conceivably threaten a defense with the ball in their hands and mix in four-WR spread plays with quick reads and triggers from the QB or just pull track star receivers around on sweeps to attack the perimeter. They create play packages that utilize the abilities of every player on the roster, however limited that player might be.

It's essentially the opposite tactic of finding a Gronkowksi and a Hernandez, instead embracing limited players who can thrive in limited roles and then designing endless packages to allow them to shine in those roles. This is a challenging way to build a multiple offense but it seems to at least work in Idaho.

No doubt pro-style vs spread arguments will continue in the future, especially with two "spread" teams competing for the national title after pro-style teams locked down the rings for several years in a row.

But keep two important notes in mind, first that systems like the spread-I are blurring the distinctions between the two offenses. Second, where you can really determine a team's identity is how they are attacking the field at the H and Y positions. Physicality? Finesse? Or both?
 
Catching TE are extremely important to a spread. I am not sure what the OP is talking about. Remember there are MANY different types of spreads. We can only guess it will be like the one JMU ran not the one OSU runs.

FB not so much but they can put turn into TE or RB.
 
You can align an offense any way you want and call it whatever you want. Spread - Pro Set - Multiple. Much has to do with formation , line splits , etc. TEs and FBs can certainly be used in a spread style offense. OSU uses 2 TEs in their offense. The Patriots in the NFL use a spread attack and often use 2 TEs. I think with RU , we'll see more spread type formations but with an emphasis on running the ball and power football..just my opinion. It's not going to be an "Air Raid" type thing ala WSU or Texas Tech.
 
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Pro-style and spread formations in college football
In college football the debate between pro-style and spread offenses often boils down primarily to the size and skillsets of the players used in the H and Y positions on the field..../QUOTE]

Just wanted to let you know there are some of us who really appreciate these types of learned comments!
 
I just wrote that off the top of my head. It took me about 5 minutes. BTW, I am not the new OC but I did eat at Subway last night.

Here is a link:
http://www.footballstudyhall.com/20...ats-the-difference-Florida-State-Oregon-Ducks


"In reality, a better metric is how often they flex out the H and Y positions in order to "spread" out the defense by alignment and use spacing to attack opponents. Teams that play larger bodies packed in tight aren't looking to use pre-snap spacing to attack their opponents but rather brute force and leverage at the line of scrimmage in combination with post-snap vertical stress.'

And this is why our offense could never function against a decent D.
 
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Catching TE are extremely important to a spread. I am not sure what the OP is talking about. Remember there are MANY different types of spreads. We can only guess it will be like the one JMU ran not the one OSU runs.

FB not so much but they can put turn into TE or RB.

Well, there are TE's that are more like receivers. They don't get into a 3 point stance but line up in a slot like Joseph Fauria at UCLA. I don't know if Griffin or Flanagan are built for that role. They came to Rutgers understanding that RU was a pro set team and are probably built as a TE that lines up in a 3 point stance. Then again, we have not seen Griffin play so we shall see.
 
"In reality, a better metric is how often they flex out the H and Y positions in order to "spread" out the defense by alignment and use spacing to attack opponents. Teams that play larger bodies packed in tight aren't looking to use pre-snap spacing to attack their opponents but rather brute force and leverage at the line of scrimmage in combination with post-snap vertical stress.'

And this is why our offense could never function against a decent D.
Very insightful comment, because it is the reason I posted that in the first place. Our offense was designed to win the point of attack with brute force. Not happening against the B1G "power" teams. It is why our offense sucked so bad. We were trying to win a gun fight with a knife. (Edit: I probably should have used a different expression after all of the off the field stuff this year) When you add in the lack of vertical stress we were completely doomed and shame on Flood and Co. if they did not know this before the season even began.
 
Listen, I'll take 11 members of the dance team, at any position in the spread, so long as its exciting, scores points, and win games.


:pimp:
 
Some perspective from Mehringer's one season running the JMU offense.

Receiving stats:
1. WR - Daniel Brown - 42 rec, 606 yds, 7 TD, 46.6 ypg
2. TE - Deane Cheatham - 42 rec, 453 yds, 2 TD, 45.2 ypg
3. WR - Deandre' Smith - 39 rec, 547 yds, 8 TD, 42.1 ypg
4. WR - Brandon Ravenel - 38 rec, 535 yds, 5 TD, 44.6 ypg
5. WR - Rashard Davis - 21 rec, 254 yds, 2 TD, 21.2 ypg
6. WR - Sean Tapley - 17 rec, 191 yds, 1 TD, 23.88 ypg
7. RB - Jauan Latney - 17 rec, 159 yds, 0 TD, 14.5 ypg
8. WR - Andre Coble - 17 rec, 160 yds, 1 TD, 12.3 ypg
9. WR - Ishmael Hyman - 15 rec, 199 yds, 3 TD, 15.3 ypg

For comparison, we had just 4 players with at least 15 receptions (Carroo, Grant, Patton, Agudosi)... also the only 4 with over 150 rec yards, and the only 4 with more than 10 ypg.

Looks like he spreads the ball around a lot, and the TE is featured, with the RB also getting touches (34 receptions out of 286, or 1 in every 8.4 receptions)

He did use multiple rushing options, too, though the QB led all rushers:
1. QB - Vad Lee - 183 attempts (26 were sacks), 826 yds (1,061 gained, 235 lost), 9 TD, 63.5 ypg
2. RB - Jauan Latney - 122 attempts, 692 yds, 7 TD, 62.9 ypg
3. RB - Khalid Abdullah - 113 attempts, 547 yds, 3 TD, 49.7 ypg
4. WR - John Miller - 83 attempts, 371 yds, 5 TD, 37.1 ypg
 
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2013/...between-a-pro-style-and-spread-offense-anyway

Unlike series football, this style of offense often relies upon the passing game, rather than faking, to prevent a defense from applying its numeric advantage (i.e. unblocked defenders) at the line of scrimmage. To take a step back, every defense has at least a plus one advantage against the offense. Since each side gets 11 players there will always be an unblocked defender – the ball carrier's counterpart. Against the one-back offense, defenses often have a second unblocked defender, that being the quarterback's counterpart once the quarterback hands off the football. As such, this offense must be able to effectively throw the football to control these two unblocked defenders. The passing game force a defense to play unblocked defenders at safety and/or controls another defender with the threat of a pass. As such, the one back system often uses four vertical threats at the line of scrimmage and is itself a 'spread' offense in the sense of counting receivers.

If this style of offense sounds familiar it should. It is the same basic framework used by pro-style teams today and has been run by every NFL team for the past 20 years. Nick Saban'sAlabama lines up in some one-back variation. It bases its offense off inside zone, outside zone, power, and counter trey, with a play action and drop back pass game as a constraint. It is thus fair to say that "pro-style" equals the one-back offense.

SO WHITHER THE SPREAD?

The limitation of the one-back offense should be apparent to anyone that has been a fan of a bottom-dwelling NFL team. It puts a lot of pressure on a quarterback. A team must be able to throw the football, otherwise those unblocked defenders will crowd the line of scrimmage and the offense will quickly stall. And there are only so many guys that can stand in the pocket, read coverages, go through a 5-receiver progression across the field within 3-5 seconds, all while defenders are rushing you with a full head of steam.

Enter the spread-to-run. Offenses such as Urban Meyer or Chip Kelly's are still conceptually the one-back offense. Their offenses use the same base plays and constraint approach.

The spread's benefit, however, is that it is an additional method to constrain the defense's unblocked defenders beyond reliance upon the passing game. It does so by forcing the defense to also account for the quarterback as a run threat, thereby reducing the defense's numeric advantage by one. As Meyer states, he turned to the spread because he wanted to make it easier to run the one-back run plays. Meyer was in one-back and pro-style systems as an assistant coach, but the complexity of defenses (namely developing ways to put 8 and 9 men in the box while defending the pass) made it harder to move the football.

The spread provided a way to run the one-back offense but force a defense to play more honest by having to account for the quarterback in the run game. A spread team also runs inside zone, but then adds a quarterback read to the play to account for an unblocked defender.
 
spread offense can actually utilize the TE often, look at florida this year, the TE was a big part of their offense, there are many variations, however the rb is not your typical fb
 
With the spread, Rutgers will beat the Michigan, Ohio State or Michigan State at least once every two years. With Penn State and Maryland also using the spread, there will be no undefeated teams in the Big Ten East.
 
Pro-style and spread formations in college football
In college football the debate between pro-style and spread offenses often boils down primarily to the size and skillsets of the players used in the H and Y positions on the field.

For instance, a modern formation many would regard as being pro-style:



pro-style_1.0.jpg



When there is a tight end player at the Y spot who's 6'2" 240 or bigger and either another similarly sized player at the H or else a fullback (generally sub 6'2" and 220 or bigger) then you are looking at what many will call a pro-style offense.

Of course, if it looks like this:



pro-style_shotgun.0.jpg



It may very well be described as a "spread" offense even though all you've done is move the quarterback and running back a few paces while leaving everyone else in the same place. The major reason a team with bigger personnel at the H and Y positions would put a QB in the shotgun like this is to run option plays such as "zone read."

Then there's the pure spread offense, which generally replaces those bigger bodies at the H and Y positions with receivers that may range from 5'6" to 6'4" but generally weigh less than 230 pounds and specialize at either route running or catching short passes and running in open space.



spread_1.0.jpg



Teams will use smaller players here to execute the passing game with better receivers, get small and fast players in space, and to get the "spread out" effect on the defense that creates room to run the ball.

As many teams have learned over the years, and Oregon and Ohio State have demonstrated in their hunt for the national title, it can be easier to just space out defenders rather than trying to knock them all out of the way.

Interestingly, if a team does something like this they may not necessarily be considered a spread team but can preserve their "pro-style" street cred while running spread concepts:



pro-style_2.0.jpg



Florida State commonly uses formations such as this that will feature a tight end at the H spot who can both block and run routes, but then a 3rd receiver at the Y position and a QB aligned under center. They'll also run more classical pro-style formations like the first one drawn shown but they are generally keen on getting as many receivers out into passing patterns as possible for QBs like Jameis Winston.

Then there are several spread teams, like West Virginia, that make heavy use of formations such as this one:



Spread-I_formation.0.jpg



You can call this a "Spread-I Formation" and the H position is generally occupied by a player who most closely fits the profile of a fullback, although he might be a taller player who also serves as a TE. At any rate, for this formation's best concepts to work the player needs to be a great blocker and needn't be a good receiver.

That means that the Spread-I shown above can be more of a smashmouth, run-centric approach than a "pro-style" formation like the one above that Florida State often uses. While the 'Noles are getting four good receivers out into patterns quickly (and often the RB as well), West Virginia in the Spread-I only have three receivers that can easily get out into a pattern.

Nevertheless, the Spread-I gets the "spread" moniker while the more pass-friendly eleven personnel set (three WRs, one TE) from Florida State is labeled as pro-style.

Then there's this: very few teams exclusively play just receivers or just tight ends and fullbacks at H and Y. Many teams even strive to be "multiple," meaning that they can put bigger bodies on the field and hammer you from under center or spread receivers around the field and sling it around from the shotgun.

This isn't generally that hard either, structurally, as spread teams and pro-style teams are often using the exact same passing concepts just with different players and a few different routes.

A concept like "snag" is common both from a spread team:



Spread_snag.0.jpg



As well as a pro-style team:



Pro-style_snag.0.jpg



So what's the difference?
You can boil down the reason behind why teams are labelled as spread or pro-style teams not in how they use their H and Y positions, which is arguably most important, but whether they are in the shotgun or not.

If a team is under center even a modest amount of time, someone is going to call them a "pro-style" attack, even if they are a four-receiver run and shoot team. If a team runs option-plays from the shotgun on a regular basis, even if they are frequently doing so with tight ends and fullbacks on the field, they are going to be frequently labelled as a shotgun spread.

In general, any team that uses the option is not going to be counted as a pro-style team, even those the pros have started to incorporate some modern option looks.

In reality, a better metric is how often they flex out the H and Y positions in order to "spread" out the defense by alignment and use spacing to attack opponents. Teams that play larger bodies packed in tight aren't looking to use pre-snap spacing to attack their opponents but rather brute force and leverage at the line of scrimmage in combination with post-snap vertical stress.

Of course, the spread-I does both.

Pace is also confused with "spread" as spread teams are better known for using up tempo tactics while pro-style teams are only now catching on to the advantages.

Considering that many pro teams use both or either approach, in the future it might be best to retire the phrase "pro-style" in favor of something that more accurately describes offenses that go under center with big bodies at H and Y.

What's better?
Since both have track records of success with league and national titles to their credit, this really just depends on the kinds of players a program can reasonably expect to find and develop. The reason that the spread has really taken hold at smaller schools is that it's easier to find smaller athletes who can do damage at space than bigger bodies who can physically dominate opponents in the trenches.

Similarly, much of the hesitation from bigger schools about going spread is in the fact that if you can physically dominate your opponent, why would you choose any other path? There's simply no answer for a team that can knock you down and in an inherently violent game this approach makes a great deal of sense.

If a team isn't depending on using the QB in the running game there's often enough flexibility in some systems to recruit the best players available and then either emphasize spread or packed-in formations based on which style best suits the players on campus.

In that event, a team has to be sure to have some big bodies to help the running game though or else they risk losing their balance. It's not hard to find bruisers who can serve primarily to create angles in the running game but if a team recruits only receiving talent at the H and Y positions, be they tight ends or slot receivers, they may still struggle to run the ball.

Another reason teams may choose one or the other would be whether they are playing in warm weather or cold weather environments. What's the last thing a defensive player wants to do in the heat? Chase fast people around. What's the last thing he wants to do in the cold? Endure repeated collisions with big people.

Why not both?
Lots of coaches will say "we want to be multiple" and "either spread and throw or run depending on situation" with loaded rosters of versatile talent. In reality, this is much easier said than done.

If you look at the approach of teams that use the tight end position heavily, you'll see that they recruit real numbers at that position to ensure they have the needed talent. Similarly, spread passing teams snatch up as many receivers as they can to ensure they have the difference makers they need for their system to work.

So is it possible to truly be multiple enough to switch back and forth between using two difference-making big bodies at tight end OR two electric slot receivers? Generally the answer is no, 2014 Alabama notwithstanding.

However, there are ways in which teams can be multiple and effective using lots of different formations. The first way is simply to find players that can do both. Iowa State'sEJ Bibbs lined up at H-back, tight end, slot receiver, and even as an outside receiver.

It takes a smart and versatile player to do all that but if a team can find tight ends who both block and run routes well there's no reason they couldn't also move all over the field. When the New England Patriots had Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski they were able to bring a wide variety of formations and tactics, either using their size to bulldoze opposing defenses or their route running to spread them and tear them apart.

No one could match up.

Of course, in lieu of finding such tremendous talent, there are some other options.

The Spread-I excels at mixing smashmouth and spread tactics by relying on the positional types in each system that are easiest to find, namely the effective slot receiver or the quality fullback, rather than finding the rare talents like the dual-threat tight end.

Another solution would be Boise State's "total roster" approach. The Broncos will recruit bigger bodies in order to play some pro-style schemes that pay special attention to creating leverage in the running game by moving big bodies around and playing games with the defensive front.

They'll also bring aboard speedsters and anyone who could conceivably threaten a defense with the ball in their hands and mix in four-WR spread plays with quick reads and triggers from the QB or just pull track star receivers around on sweeps to attack the perimeter. They create play packages that utilize the abilities of every player on the roster, however limited that player might be.

It's essentially the opposite tactic of finding a Gronkowksi and a Hernandez, instead embracing limited players who can thrive in limited roles and then designing endless packages to allow them to shine in those roles. This is a challenging way to build a multiple offense but it seems to at least work in Idaho.

No doubt pro-style vs spread arguments will continue in the future, especially with two "spread" teams competing for the national title after pro-style teams locked down the rings for several years in a row.

But keep two important notes in mind, first that systems like the spread-I are blurring the distinctions between the two offenses. Second, where you can really determine a team's identity is how they are attacking the field at the H and Y positions. Physicality? Finesse? Or both?

The key here is that you have to be big and strong in the middle and fast on the out side with a strong armed QB (to stress the D vertically) to win running a tight set pro style O. Anybody who thinks we had that combo with our starting 11 last year should be fired ..... oh wait, they were.
 
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