Please give me the notable win he had over the last 4 years? I’ll wait.
Targeting Buffalo's Lance Leipold might be the best option for Rutgers during coaching search
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Please give me the notable win he had over the last 4 years? I’ll wait.
And while you’re at it feel free to give me Buffalo’s recruiting rankings in the MAC? I’ll save you the work — 12th in 2018 and 7th last year. But, hey, he won at the D3 level so who cares
He is a great coach although I am a little surprised with some of the losses this year but he is at a place where you can't stock talent and is breaking in a new qb. The team is still well coached though. I think he is a very good realistic get, and his price would leave room for great coordinators and recruiters.
No “great” coordinator is going to work for Lance Leipold with the current condition of the program
Rutgers has been trying to save money for to long and that's what got the program where it is now and why it was bad BS (before Schiano) and AS (after Schiano)
If Schiano or Jones have a better chance to build a winner, hire them before Lance and go for the win not savings.
If Leipold can do it better, forget about those two, hire him paying him fair market value , even if he gets the same as Butch and Greg would have been paid
I have my doubts about Lance, but Jones and Schiano also have flaws and I can't honestly say any of the three won't be a gamble, just feel of the three Greg might be the best to gamble on building Rutgers back to respectability .
Schiano can recruit,build a program, develop nfl talent, and create excitement in Nj.. Lastly he can win...Schiano has proven it. Leipold would be a toss of a coin...
I love Leipold. But not now. I think he's an excellent coach, but now, we need a charismatic coach (not just Greg) who can come in, fire up the recruits and still be a successful coach. I would put my money on Schiano, Jones and Candle over Lance, although for pure coaching, he's terrific.
Very Very high risk - Can't afford to take that risk after this last debacle.
You won't find me complaining if we hire Leopold or Schiano. Keeping Campanile as the OC would probably be a good move, if only for his recruiting.
no none of the sort
The Guys resume speaks for itself he is a winning coach, multiple Coach of the year guy. 2 National Championship guy. multiple time in the playoffs.
he lost to Penn st this year and his team scored 13 points. We've scored 16 points against them the last 4 games.
If he is putting W’s on the board who cares where he is from, where he coached, yada, yada, yada. The guy has a system and can flat out coach. He is exactly what Rutgers needs. The last thing Rutgers needs is a slick salesman who can talk the talk but cant put W’s on the board. Lance has the skills to put Build Rutgers to prominence again.
Like I said, I really do like him as a coach. But with that said, not right now for Rutgers. I just don't feel comfortable in him getting the recruits we need for the B1G. If we had a winning program already and that coached left, then yes, I could see him as the next coach. Unfortunately, we are starting over and I want someone that can really "sell" the program as well as coach. As much as I like and respect Leipold, I don't feel he's the right one at this time.
this above writer at Saturday tradition, has zero idea what the program needs are..
try this article written for AP by guy who has covered RU football.
Hobbs job is on the line:
https://www.app.com/story/sports/20...ime-rutgers-coaching-hire-edelson/3818269002/
"But the whole debacle falls squarely in Hobbs' lap. He's the one who hired Ash, with no head coaching experience at any level, because he was an Urban Meyer assistant at Ohio State, and then inexplicably gave Ash a $10 million contract extension that has the school on the hook for the final three-plus years of the deal.
If Hobbs doesn't connect on the equivalent of an 80-yard touchdown bomb, then he's the next one to go.
The clock is running.".
soo... Hobbs is going to stake his future on a lifelong Div3 Head Coach,currently a sub 500 Buffalo HC or with a national name like Schiano,Butch Jones,Morehead,Narduzzi????
He's a good coach, but I agree with this at this point. Buffalo beat Temple because of Temple turnovers whereas Miami beat Buffalo largely on Buffalo's four turnovers. Essentially those games were lost more than they were won.
I'm open to seeing what he does over the next two weeks. Ohio should be a competitive game at home for Buffalo at 3:30 Saturday. Akron is the worst team in the MAC and potentially the worst team in FBS (yes, worse than UMass). An 0-2 record and he's completely off my board. 2-0 and he's still on (but not high). 1-1 and he'd be hanging by a thread.
so you think a Lance Liepold or Jason Candle,who is younger and better coach then Lancelot,are equal choices to Schiano,Butch Jones or Moorehead?
what?
I haven't made my opinion at this point and I don't anticipate making one until Thanksgiving. I'm glad we're finally talking about experienced head coaches rather than trying to find the sexy coordinator. Coaches like Schiano, Jones, Moorhead, and Clawson (if he would listen) are fairly known quantities at this point. I think each will have varying degrees of success, but I'm not sold that either will get us where we really want to be unless you are ready to accept 5 -- 8 wins annually.
There are several G5 coaches who I believe could win more at RU than the established P5 coaches could. I have not done the homework I need to because the RU job was not vacant and they'd end up going to someplace else and be our nemesis for a decade or longer. This weekend would be a painful one for me if Locksley was a coach I wanted for RU (he wasn't).
Let face facts no matter who we get unless it’s urban is going to be a crap shoot. It only a matter of how much we pay to roll the dice. Schiano is a good coach but he has negatives and positives just like any coach who will take the job. Lance Leipold in my opinion is a good coach who has upside to become a great coach. I would like to see him become a great coach at Rutgers. No matter who becomes HC I will root for their success in turning around the program.
hes never coached at ,or won at same level,or ran a power five program,NFL team, as Schiano,Butch Jones or Moorehead have..
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Not sure that Schiano is a known quantity at this point. Ever since he left RU his resume has declined.
I see Greg as a huge risk for RU. He is not the same coach we had the last time around imo. Especially after the failure with the Pats.
I don't agree, but don't take that to mean I'm in the Schiano 2.0 camp. The question marks I would see are if he had the same enthusiasm / energy to recruit as he has in the past (something someone under 50 wouldn't completely understand or appreciate) and if he has adjusted his defense to better attack the spread offense. I think that in year 3 he becomes a 5 -- 7 win coach at RU, which is equivalent results to what RU was doing from 2007 -- 2011 when adjusting for the differences in schedule.
Hard pass for me as well. Leipold's record and championships at the Division 3 school are incredible, however, I don't see how that applies to the situation Rutgers finds itself in. Not to knock Division 3 football or the kids that compete so hard at that level, it's just a different world.
I see a sub .500 Coach at Buffalo with 1 good season, and am not convinced it was a total re-build at Buffalo.
His hiring would signify all else has failed and/or let's take the cheap route again. Bust written all over this.
I'd sign up for any of the retreads over Leipold. I'd also sign up for Candle's success and recruiting over Leipold. A Leipold hire would mark more disappointment.
Unfortunately, being the HC of a Power 5 football team is not just about X's and O's. It's getting the Jimmy's and Joe's to show up on campus to execute those X's and O's. Recruiting is almost as important as the gameday planning. Leipold can't outrecruit other teams in his group of 5 conference, can you expect him to go toe to toe with Durkin, Franklin, Ferentz, Day, and Harbaugh (and Partridge/Campanile) for NJ talent? Hell, he'll have trouble against Addazio and Carey. Plus, the added pressure of being in the NJ market and all the scrutiny of athletics at RU? I doubt it. Only experienced Power 5 head coaches and established, experienced high powered coordinators please.
You mentioned Durkin, formerly of Maryland.
Why isn’t his name in the mix?
Sure he’s made amends for what happened at MD.
Why isn’t his name in the mix?
Sure he’s made amends for what happened at MD.
Buffalo's recruiting rankings in the MAC
2015: 11th
2016: 9th
2017: 9th
2018: 12th
2019: 7th
I'm not much of a recruiting ranking guy because these experts make mistakes just as the NFL draft experts do, but it is noteworthy he has never placed in the top half of the MAC.
Jason Candle has a different record:
2016: 2nd
2017: 1st
2018: 1st
2019: 1st.
Schiano is the only choice. Who else is going to make insane demands of Hobbs as to what is needed at Rutgers in order to get us out of this hole. No other coach knows this better than Schiano.
Schiano will demand top compensation for himself and his assistants. This is key. How else are we going to entice the top recruiters in the north east and/or Florida?
You may not like the idea of bringing Schiano back, but it's the right move.
Schiano will demand top compensation for himself and his assistants. This is key. How else are we going to entice the top recruiters in the north east and/or Florida?
You may not like the idea of bringing Schiano back, but it's the right move.
Fans like Morrison and Andia want Rutgers to give Buffalo head coach Lance Leipold a chance after watching his Bulls carve up the Scarlet Knights a season ago, citing his ability to win at all levels and develop players as a head coach as major feathers in his cap.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj...on-college-get-rid-of-him.html?outputType=amp
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj...on-college-get-rid-of-him.html?outputType=amp
Well, if we end up with him I hope he can develop talent because he sure can’t recruit.
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