He's clearly not Bushwood material.
Lol i was at a game against then #1 FSU and they were in the game the whole way, no one gave a crap.No just their fans did.
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you guys are making a bigger deal out of this than it should be.
i said it last week...Ash isn't gonna be able to just walk into schools like BC, DB and others and expect coaches to buy what he's selling
Guys got his work cut out
Huge hit psychologically
Wow, I know they are kids, but that was a douche bag move. People have some screwed up values. If you know your kid is going to visit his dream school, then don't commit. We don't want this kid. I don't care if he goes pro.
I'm starting to have my doubts as well.Some on here will tell you Ash has done agreat job. I see zero evidence of that. What I HAVE seen is lower expectations, a ton of decommits, and a Terry Shea like delay getting started.
Wow... "douche bag move"?..."screwed up values"?
I am always amazed when grown men slam a 17 year-old kid for making a life decision. Especially when you don't know all the facts.
Look, he committed to RU last week. Given that the recruiting period was running out, that made sense. A week later, he gets an offer from a school that he preferred - so he switched. I understand why this is disappointing, but why is that an issue? Why slam a 17 year-old kid for making a life decision that he thinks is best for him? If circumstances change, then he should do what is right for him. Especially when coaches often make similar "abrupt changes" when circumstances warrant.
A short time ago, KJ Gray, decommited from BC to go to RU. Was that a "douche bag move"? "Screwed up values"? Of course not! Circumstances changed and he did what was right for him. Most BC fans were disappointed, but he certainly wasn't slammed for it.
BC just lost a 4-star kid to Stanford. While I am disappointed, I wish this kid well.
Look RU is a fine school...so is BC. They are very different, but both fine schools. Those differences will appeal to specific recruits. Given the fact that schools offer at different points in the recruiting calendar, it should be expected that some decommitments will occur.
Frankly, with all due respect, these kids read these boards and, understandably, don't take kindly to being slammed. Just look at their Twitter accounts. Most importantly, neither do the coaches that post on their Twitter accounts. Just sayin.
Number of words in silly, unnecessary post > number of people at a BC home game.
A guy's gotta work on his math somehow, I guess.
Bless your heart.
all I can say is what goes around comes around ............. barthel, the campanile brothers, partridge .......... they'll get theirs one day.
Wow... "douche bag move"?..."screwed up values"?
A short time ago, KJ Gray decommited from BC to go to RU. Was that a "douche bag move"? "Screwed up values"? Of course not! Circumstances changed and he did what was right for him. Most BC fans were disappointed, but he certainly wasn't slammed for it.
I'm starting to have my doubts as well.
Why because they are doing their job?
I agree with some of your post, but KJ Gray is completely different situation. He committed to BC in the summer, let the season play out, and then decommitted on 12/21 - a month before he committed to RU. He didn't leave BC with five days to find a replacement.
That being said, if its important to the staff to have a TE in the class I would assume they have backup plans in place.
Not true. Not true at all. I believe that the overwhelming number of fans support coach Ash. But why is it a mortal sin for fans to point out that he was a bit late on the recruiting front? Why is it toxic for the fanbase to draw a reasonable conclusion that his ties to Meyer or OSU have not translated into locking down very good 3 & 4 * recruits? I agree that some posters just come here to blast the guy, but to say he's off to a disappointing start is fair.What Ash is finding out is he is swimming in a toxic pool who will eat their own young just out of spite ......... this pool include fans whore refuses to support him cause he is not "one of their own".
Some on here will tell you Ash has done agreat job. I see zero evidence of that. What I HAVE seen is lower expectations, a ton of decommits, and a Terry Shea like delay getting started.
------i said it last week...Ash isn't gonna be able to just walk into schools like BC, DB and others and expect coaches to buy what he's selling
Guys got his work cut out
Huge hit psychologically
Not true. Not true at all. I believe that the overwhelming number of fans support coach Ash. But why is it a mortal sin for fans to point out that he was a bit late on the recruiting front? Why is it toxic for the fanbase to draw a reasonable conclusion that his ties to Meyer or OSU have not translated into locking down very good 3 & 4 * recruits? I agree that some posters just come here to blast the guy, but to say he's off to a disappointing start is fair.
And...to the loser Syracuse fans we all know are lurking in this thread to get some type of enjoyment over this, you are truly pathetic, miserable people. Try the Pitt board as there are probably some threads over there where you can pat yourselves on the back over how good you both were 20+ years ago.
Korab retweeting Syracuse fans ragging on Rutgers tells you the kid's character.
I think Ash under estimated the importance of Jersey Ties to Coaching staffs needed to forge an 'in' for acceptance at NJ schools beforei loi day l.This isnt Ohio..and you are not at OSU any longer...its going to take work and relationships and an 'in' thru known coaches before NJ high school coaches trust the staff. Ash could have used the time he spent at OSU during the bowl game talking and laying ground work to NJ high school coaches and maybe hiring an Acosta like coach. I dont think this is a dynamic he knew about,or maybe Schiano warned him and he didnt believe it???Not true. Not true at all. I believe that the overwhelming number of fans support coach Ash. But why is it a mortal sin for fans to point out that he was a bit late on the recruiting front? Why is it toxic for the fanbase to draw a reasonable conclusion that his ties to Meyer or OSU have not translated into locking down very good 3 & 4 * recruits? I agree that some posters just come here to blast the guy, but to say he's off to a disappointing start is fair.
I think Ash under estimated the importance of Jersey Ties to Coaching staffs needed to forge an 'in' for acceptance at NJ schools beforei loi day l.This isnt Ohio..and you are not at OSU any longer...its going to take work and relationships and an 'in' thru known coaches before NJ high school coaches trust the staff. Ash could have used the time he spent at OSU during the bowl game talking and laying ground work to NJ high school coaches and maybe hiring an Acosta like coach. I dont think this is a dynamic he knew about,or maybe Schiano warned him and he didnt believe it???
some kids today are like politicians, they are willing to say and do anything to benefit their agenda, even the barkley kid at psu, called RU his dream school and than flipped, character matters, your word matters
I think Ash under estimated the importance of Jersey Ties to Coaching staffs needed to forge an 'in' for acceptance at NJ schools beforei loi day l.This isnt Ohio..and you are not at OSU any longer...its going to take work and relationships and an 'in' thru known coaches before NJ high school coaches trust the staff. Ash could have used the time he spent at OSU during the bowl game talking and laying ground work to NJ high school coaches and maybe hiring an Acosta like coach. I dont think this is a dynamic he knew about,or maybe Schiano warned him and he didnt believe it???
I think Ash under estimated the importance of Jersey Ties to Coaching staffs needed to forge an 'in' for acceptance at NJ schools beforei loi day l.This isnt Ohio..and you are not at OSU any longer...its going to take work and relationships and an 'in' thru known coaches before NJ high school coaches trust the staff. Ash could have used the time he spent at OSU during the bowl game talking and laying ground work to NJ high school coaches and maybe hiring an Acosta like coach. I dont think this is a dynamic he knew about,or maybe Schiano warned him and he didnt believe it???
I don't know...he hired Rick Mantz as NJ high school liaison almost immediately. Don't know what you REALISTICALLY expected to happen in less than two months, even if he didn't coach OSU's bowl games. I've posted this several times on the RT:
Urban Meyer's first class at Utah in 2003 was ranked #90.
Brian Kelly's first class at Cincy in 2007 was ranked #90.
Tom Herman's first class at Houston last year was ranked #90.
Hell, Michigan's class was ranked #51 last year and that's with Jim F#cking Harbaugh.
Again, not sure people were being realistic with this 2016 recruiting cycle. It's essentially "year 0" for Ash and staff. Jersey ties or not.