Not just taunting the crowd (agree I'm not sure I've ever seen that) but you periodically see players get T'd up for bad language and other such shit that they let go 95%+ of the time.
Technical Foul
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I've only seen it when directed to players or coaches. never the crowd.
Can anyone think of a single other time a player was T'd up for talking to the crowd after a big shot? Just one example.
Feed me.....throat slash.... a couple of F- bombs
A little more than talking to the crowd.
I agree that it was a terrible call and that white haired official was pretty bad all night but Simpson shouldn't have done it.
Personally I hate the SHHHH! signal to the crowd. Does nothing but make a bad situation worse.
The NBA banned the throat slash and the three fingers to the head gestures years ago. I wish the Shhhhh would go away.
What ever happened to beating their team is enough payback?
The NBA banned the throat slash and the three fingers to the head gestures years ago. I wish the Shhhhh would go away.
What ever happened to beating their team is enough payback?
Tominaga did it multiple times (and he might have been yelling **** you in japanese)
Not even close to a T
As I said in another post it was a bull**** call by a ref who was terrible all night. But in the end it's Simpson's fault. Just keep your mouth shut and win the game.
if that was something that is a technical even 25% of the time then I'd agree.
Its called 0% of the time though. Why would he even think there would be a call?
I agree with everything you say. But the fault still lies with Simpson. If he keeps his mouth shut there is zero chance that the guy makes the call.
Some how I think that the B1G 10 will very discretely review the officials actions in this case.
Look at the replay. He made the gesture right in the face of Jahmir Young as he ran past him. Then he cursed the fans twice as mentioned here.
Probably deserved the T.
Probably deserved the T.
It seems that official's name is Eric Curry. Here are some quotes from him in an article written about him before he worked the 2019 Final Four.
Taking care of business can mean calling technical fouls. When does Curry know it’s time to “T” somebody up?
“I am not going to let you do something that embarrasses me or embarrasses the game,” Curry said.
Curry respects the responsibilities of coaches who are under enormous pressure to both win and set an example of sportsmanship for their players and fans. “I have less tolerance for players than coaches,” he said.
Taking care of business can mean calling technical fouls. When does Curry know it’s time to “T” somebody up?
“I am not going to let you do something that embarrasses me or embarrasses the game,” Curry said.
Curry respects the responsibilities of coaches who are under enormous pressure to both win and set an example of sportsmanship for their players and fans. “I have less tolerance for players than coaches,” he said.
Rule 10-5 contains a partial list of illegal unsportsmanlike acts, such as disrespectfully addressing or contacting an official, using profanity, taunting, inciting undesirable crowd reactions, flagrantly contacting an opponent while the ball is dead and fighting or leaving the playing court during a fight.
Using profanity is pretty hilarious. No one has ever heard cursing on a basketball court before
That said Simpson did 3 of those
I think everyone is missing the central point. The Dentist Sucks.
Nope...the fault still lies with Eric Curry who hates Rutgers
Tominaga incited the crowd at least 3 times at the RAC a few weeks ago. Guess who reffed that game...the same Eric Curry you are defending.
The question so many of us are asking is...why didn't it get called then? Didn't he incite the crowd and disrespect the game?
Give me a ****ing break. You keep saying that Simpson should not have done that ...but the reason he did it is because it's done all the time by players and NEVER called. And it's literally never called. It was called on us by a guy that picks on us. Every time I see this guy do one of our games I just know he's going to pull some complete garbage out of his butt and call it on us and not on the other team.
You need to watch more college basketball. Part of the reason we have the issues with the refs that we do is because people like you mindlessly defend the refs and blame the players...which allows them (the refs) to keep getting away with stuff like this
Let me guess.. you thought the refs at Ohio State last year were just calling it by the book as well right?
If you read all my posts I said that he did a horrible job all night and it was an absolute bullshit call so I can'tbe defending him. But you can't deny that if Simpson doesn't feel the need to show what a bad a** he is you don't even give the official the opportunity to make that call.
He wasn't "showing what a bad ass he is"...he was having another frustrating shooting night and the Maryland crowd was riding him for it. He made a nice play and let out some some emotion in the moments after what must've felt like vindication for him.
Now we have excessive crowd taunting guidelines. Geesh. Give kid warning and move on. 3 mins left in game and ref thinks he’s protecting the game.
GO RU
Makes perfect sense to me
By the book that’s a T.
and even though refs “never” call it…you can’t give the official a reason to call a T at a critical point in the game like that
If Simpson just controlled his emotions we wouldn’t be having this discussion
Don’t give the ref a reason to make a terrible call = Makes a lot of sense to me
He did the shhh, did the throat slash, cursed twice… and someone said that Young was in the vicinity (maybe making ref think it was taunting…even though we know it was directed at the crowd)
Simpson gave that moron plenty reason to f$&k us. That’s on Simpson
@SirScarlet @PatrickRU92
You know I love you guys but this is a terrible job by both of you. My daughter was at the game last night cheering on the Terps. And yes, she had bad actors around her saying stupid stuff. But Derick telling them to STFU is stooping to lower than their level. I don't need Derick Simpson directing that language at my daughter. And to risk a T while the outcome hangs in the balance is inexcusable.
Seeing Derick smiling and clapping after that T was assessed is what set me off. The 26 seconds that followed were his fault. If Mawot and JWill don't bail him out, he is responsible for a horrible collapse and this board is in meltdown.
While I'm on a roll, I don't need Oscar and the bench, who contributed nothing, jawing at the crowd either.
JWill showed how you respond. AFTER the game, stare them down and take a bow while keeping your mouth shut.
End of Rant.
You know I love you guys but this is a terrible job by both of you. My daughter was at the game last night cheering on the Terps. And yes, she had bad actors around her saying stupid stuff. But Derick telling them to STFU is stooping to lower than their level. I don't need Derick Simpson directing that language at my daughter. And to risk a T while the outcome hangs in the balance is inexcusable.
Seeing Derick smiling and clapping after that T was assessed is what set me off. The 26 seconds that followed were his fault. If Mawot and JWill don't bail him out, he is responsible for a horrible collapse and this board is in meltdown.
While I'm on a roll, I don't need Oscar and the bench, who contributed nothing, jawing at the crowd either.
JWill showed how you respond. AFTER the game, stare them down and take a bow while keeping your mouth shut.
End of Rant.
Yeah I believe there is absolutely no rule for taunting a crowd and no matter what he said or did that should not have been a technical; I do hate even when players make a 3 and they put up the the 3 fingers just go back and play defense!!
Still waiting for anyone to post a single example of any other college player being T'd up for talking to crowd. He wasn't doing that in Young's face, I don't think he even noticed Young was there when he started his antics. I love that he plays with emotion at times.
Look at the replay after the whistle. Jeremiah looked stunned and had to stop Derek to tell him he was T'd up. Why? Because it is NEVER CALLED A TECHNICAL. Someone prove me wrong.
Look at the replay after the whistle. Jeremiah looked stunned and had to stop Derek to tell him he was T'd up. Why? Because it is NEVER CALLED A TECHNICAL. Someone prove me wrong.
Oh no, did your daughter hear the F-word?
Didn't think this would be something RU fans held against Simpson. That crowd was f4cking with him the entire game. I'm not the biggest Simpson fan but I can't be mad at him for that when we've seen players do waaay more than what he did. Now someone is saying their daughter was in the crowd and he doesn't want Simpson talking to his daughter like that. 🙄 Come on guys, let's be reasonable. Yes it would be nice if he wasn't effected by the taunting and didn't engage with the crowd. He got t'd up for it and the team was still able to pull off the win. He will learn from this situation and it shouldn't happen again. Simple all of the extra is not necessary
Bad call by a ref that likes to b the center of attention. It’s over, live and learn. Don’t do it again!
The comparison with Tominaga is silly. What Tominaga did at the RAC has been done 100 times this season by multiple players. We watched Cam do it to other teams twice last year and pretty sure we loved them both. I dont hate emotion in sports but I do think that going on and on with multiple actions is different from a single quick one reacting after a big shot.
The clock was stopped for a time-out and his gesture did not affect the competition in any way. The correct response from the ref would have been to pull Simpson aside and give him a warning that it was excessive and would lead to a T the next time. I am pretty sure that an unbiased spectator would consider that good reffing.
The clock was stopped for a time-out and his gesture did not affect the competition in any way. The correct response from the ref would have been to pull Simpson aside and give him a warning that it was excessive and would lead to a T the next time. I am pretty sure that an unbiased spectator would consider that good reffing.
Eh. Taunting is fine and shouldn't be a problem.
Have a problem with it?
Inbound the ball, run up the court and turn it into a 5 on 4 while Simpson is dancing around and yelling at the crowd distracted.
"Inciting undesirable crowd reaction"? WTF is that?
What about when the home team waves their arms and tells the crowd to get loud?
Isn't that technically "inciting undesirable crowd reaction" for the visiting team?
Tominaga, Simpson - don't call any of it.
Fans have to have some responsibility as well - be adults and deal with someone yelling back at you.
Have a problem with it?
Inbound the ball, run up the court and turn it into a 5 on 4 while Simpson is dancing around and yelling at the crowd distracted.
"Inciting undesirable crowd reaction"? WTF is that?
What about when the home team waves their arms and tells the crowd to get loud?
Isn't that technically "inciting undesirable crowd reaction" for the visiting team?
Tominaga, Simpson - don't call any of it.
Fans have to have some responsibility as well - be adults and deal with someone yelling back at you.
Pretty sure "inciting undesirable crowd reaction" refers to things like inciting the crowd to yell at the refs and stuff like that. Basically why Hurley got tossed from a game last season by getting a T and then doing a pump up the crowd thing, basically encouraging them to abuse the refs. Don't think it refers to taunting the crowd.
Love you too Lou
But I'm sorry I'm not going to stop pointing out when we are being blatantly treated unfairly. Again--never seen a player get T for saying something to the crowd. something tells we we'll never see it again. but i'll be watching and I'm damn well going to point it out when an opposition player does it to us.
I'm extremely angered still by last year. The incompetent refs who tend to favor name teams (like OSU) completely ruined our season. Not the game, but the entire season went for naught because of that. Its not the same for all teams (for those who say "every school says they are targeted") oh Yeah? find me the schools who had an NCAA bid yanked because the refs stole a victory from them and then maybe we'll play the misery loves company game. And no the OSU game wasn't one bad call--need I remind everyone that the prayer shot (that was clearly illegal ) shouldn't have even gone up becuase the OSU guy stepped OOB before that (uncalled, unreviewed)
I'll stop when the refs hand a big victory to even things out..
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I join in with the vast majority of your fellow fans that disagree with you. As others have said, with all of the countless years of history watching college basketball among us, not a single person has said that they have ever seen a player draw a technical for taunting the crowd. Keep in mind that rule 10 has parallel wording, allowing the officials to grant one technical foul shot to the team subjected to “abusive“ language by the fans of the other team. I doubt if anyone has seen that rule enforced either. In light of the universal lack of enforcement of both elements of the rule, assessing the technical without a warning was a ridiculous abuse of discretion.
Right that's my point. The "inciting crowd reaction" thing is for something completely different and has nothing to do with Simpson's T.
Simpson shouldn’t have done that but emotions run high.
Bigger fault is with the ref. Should never have inserted himself into outcome.
Fault is on ref.
just re-watched, with cooler emotions knowing the final outcome...
..and after careful consideration and more measured judgement...
it was a total shit call, the ref should never work a B1G game EVER again -
..and after careful consideration and more measured judgement...
it was a total shit call, the ref should never work a B1G game EVER again -
