The shooter was “uncovered” because he came from out of bounds. Mag had completely sealed the passer to the sideline. Look at his feet on the replay / freeze frame. He’s right against the out of bounds line. If the shooter was in bounds there’s no angle to get him the ball.
It’s not why we lost, but it’s absolutely a factor in whether the decision was good.
I was going to post the same thing.....when we were fouling I immediately thought this was not what he normally would do.. out of character
I don't think you should depend on the players on defense to keep track of how much time is on the clock and then foul when there is three seconds.....
especially when your own team is going to have to shoot one and one's. THAT'S a big deal.
I hate the fouling approach but it’s conventional thinking so you’re not wrong imo. I just disagree with it fundamentally.
I disagree.
It's not as easy as "just foul 2 seconds later" in 2 more seconds he would be in a position to take a 3 or have passed to someone to shoot the 3.
There were 2 fouls and the buzzer beater in 7 seconds. OSU fans admit the clock screwed us as much the the 2 OB’s.
That could be
Perfectly said.
Now, if they did not foul and hit a 3 and won in OT , we would have had the whole debate about whether he should have fouled and the analytics are about 50/50 about whether to foul up 3 with 5-8 seconds to go. So you cannot say anything definitively.
It was the right strategy. We fouled too soon and if you are going to do this you have to hit your foul shots. The strategy guarantees you keep the lead and get the ball.
Exactly. Kudos to you for thinking of it. In every review of the play and the importance of not allowing a player who willfully stepped out to “jump in” to take a shot, this is another critical aspect that nobody else mentioned.
Pike trusted Paul , Caleb and Cam who shoot at least 75% from the line if not higher and Caleb was at 100% and Paul had just hit 2 and Cam shoots 95%, so that was factored into his strategy . We made 3-4 including both front ends of the one and ones so his relying on that worked and Caleb’s last miss when the clock didn’t start for 1-1.5 seconds would not have mattered if reffed properly that shot comes after the buzzer while the ball is still in the passer’s hands. Lots of strategy here and can argue it forever but it unusual because Pike went against what he normally does and against his team’s strength defending the 3. We came into the game # 1 in the country doing it.
Nope. Mag fouled his man in the backcourt. It's not hard for a guy to wait until He commits an intentional foul. Players do it all the time in end of game situations. And, in 90% of the time they do it correctly.
Excellent point. Explains why Pike chose this strategy here and not in prior games (Stonybrook loss maybe?). We were horrendous from charity in previous years. Our top 3 guards are very good FT shooters. Can’t beat on Caleb - the kid is 10 of 11 on the damn season.
I get what you are saying but if the clock started all 3 times on time then he would not have fouled too early. That guy was pretty quick so the goal was to foul him before he got into the open and made a shot or a pass to an open player. The math was okay for this strategy. Watch the clock on all 3 possessions.
Disagree as I just said above. Clock management was fine. Clock was screwed up all 3 possessions. Do the math in your head for each posession. I get 9.5 seconds.
I understand your point
Blame Pike ? We have no idea what his instructions were to Mag. I don't either, but it was more likely an execution issue with Mag fouling the guard 10 feet before halfcourt instead of waiting 10 feet over halfcourt.
Teams practice end game situations and this is one of them
