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And Wofford was one of the slowest college bball teams I've seen...it was so great to see these ploddders stomp shoe.
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The Official Make Fun of the Big East Thread
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And Wofford was one of the slowest college bball teams I've seen...it was so great to see these ploddders stomp shoe.
Wofford's offensive sets didn't do much for me. They just have four guys who can shoot threes at 42%+... that cures a lot of problems.
I sometimes don't agree with your viewpoints, but in this instance, I am with you. I can't stand it when fans of lousy teams talk crap about teams that are above them. Shut up until your team is any good. And we'll get there soon, but I'll keep quiet until then
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Agreed . I wonder why you are not usually a fan of my viewpoints. I just want rutgers to wins and believe our school and fanbase deserve a winner .
Villanova was particularly shaky last night against an ok St Marys. It was not that Nova played all that poorly. Its just the realization that they just are not that good. St Mary's controlled the whole tempo of the game and if they made a shot here or there would have won the game. Nova did absolutely zero to disrupt the St Marys offense, they committed only like 2 or 3 fouls which was bizarre. It was a game where Nova did the bare minimum to win. One spurt at the beginning of the second half was the difference...this was a St Marys team that had 11 losses, it was not vintage St Marys.
Now against Purdue the tempo will be more to their liking but Nova's only shot to win this is if the shots are falling at a high rate
Now against Purdue the tempo will be more to their liking but Nova's only shot to win this is if the shots are falling at a high rate
1) Villanova is a team, not a conference.
2) Michigan was the #5 seed in the Big Ten tourney last season (tied for 4th in regular season)
You do have the variability of Carsen Edwards shooting. He has been off the charts awful in some game recently.
The more shots I see from Cline and Eifert the more I like Purdue. Now Cline was 1-11 yesterday, I dont' think that happens again.
I think Purdue has options on offense and thats going to be an issue for Nova. I think Nova is not nearly as explosive on offense as we are used to. They will struggle with the Purdue defense. I have watched Painter's teams struggle at times trying to close games out so watch out for that where Nova can somehow steal a game because of brainfarts. Jay Wright not only gets the edge in style but he will outcoach Painter but will that be enough
So let me understand this line of thinking. I can't talk shit about anyone else that I perceives sucks because Rutgers sucks? No sorry, you can sit in the corner nice and quiet with your thumb up your ass waiting for Rutgers to get good. Meanwhile there are plenty of other teams that suck that need to get pointed out too.
And then we can bash our own teams, and I bash Ash plenty because he does suck, but I can't bash anyone else because we haven't been good? Sorry guys, that's a loser way of thinking of things.
Based on the MSG commercials hawking tickets for the BE tourney as it was being played, I suspect this is not true.
No doubt the Big East was very down this year and Marquette and St. John’s limped to the finish line. However, Villanova is as good as any team in the country last 3-4 years and this is a rebuilding year and it looks like it. Despite my hate of Seton Hall, I respect the job Willard did this year losing that great class this year. He lost just as much as Villanova . The fight and grit in the Big East tourney, beating Marquette twice,Villanova once and Kentucky on a neutral, and Maryland on the road was very impressive. They came all the way back last night against a very very good Wofford team that can play with anybody,watch out Kentucky tomorrow, and probably win that game against almost anyone else, except for Wofford closing hitting 3 after 3. In most years Xavier is the toughest out in the NCAA as is Butler. Not this year. For the last 5 years the Big 10 has gotten better and better but for years before that they got their asses handed to them by the ACC every year. Things are cyclical but the Big 10 is trending up but I am not ready to bury the Big East just yet.
Seven teams in 2 years ago-----6 in last year----2 of the last 3 National Champions.
It made the papers
UCLA has the most championships in history.
Look where they are now. Things change.
Look where they are now. Things change.
4 in this year...2 embarrassed. One beaten solidly by low midmajor and another just getting by in death struggle win vs bland school
Beating Villanova this year is like when Rutgers beat Michigan in football in 2014, hardly the same as beating them in 2018. But even in a down year for the Wildcats, they still won the conference regular season and tournament and were the highest tournament seed.
Beating Marquette doesn't look nearly as impressive, either, given the curb stomping they received in the second half vs. Murray St.
SHU came "all the way back" against Wofford.... then allowed 17 unanswered points to get laughed off the floor in the final 5 minutes. As for the Kentucky win, bad teams occasionally beat good teams - like when Rutgers beat eventual conference champion and national runner-up Wisconsin under Eddie Jordan in 2015.
At this point, Villanova better bounce back hard next year and rejoin the Top 5 for the conference's sake, because I just don't see any other banner carriers waiting in the wings. It's like UConn's women's team in the AAC... the Huskies are what keeps that conference relevant.
As for us, we have to get our own house in order against a much tougher schedule. 20 games vs. the Big Ten is a tougher road than 18 vs. the Big East, so it won't be easy.
You conveniently left out Xavier and Butler and to a lesser extent Creighton and Providence. All decent but not great teams. As much as I want to shit on Seton Hall, you are dead wrong. They belonged, got a tough draw, and have a player that we have seen around here since Douby that refuses to lose in a lot of games. I hate giving them credit but open your eyes.
That's a pretty idiotic position. Just because I root for a program that isn't very good, that doesn't mean that I can't talk about other teams and criticize teams that I believe are overrated.
I'm a lousy cook, but when I go to a restaurant I still know a good meal from a bad meal.
it's the same logic that same fans will use that just because their favorite team is good means they are a smarter fan and understand the game better.
Not saying they didn't belong in the field, just that they're a mediocre team playing in a mediocre conference. Bully for them.
They beat some decent but not great teams, then got their butts handed to them in the tournament by a team 90% of the viewing audience probably didn't know existed until they printed their brackets - unless they had really good memories of the losing 12 seeds from their 2015 bracket.
If Nova left the conference tomorrow, SHU isn't keeping it afloat.
Half the people at tourney are there just because of the event. They have no interest or got the tix thru their company or are there to get buzzed. On caliber of play alone, the product with the exception of Villanova is a shell of what it used to be. By the same token, the big 10 sucked last year but schools in the big 10 have a much better chance of elevating thrmselves based on their stature than do the current big east squads.
But even as the Big 10 "sucked" last year, it still managed to place 4 programs in the final Top 25 and saw its 4th place conference finisher going to the national title game. The weakness in the Big Ten was in the middle/bottom of the conference.
Rutgers still has a long way to go, but this does not change the fact that the reformed Big East is a second rate conference with several mediocre teams, e.g., Seton Hall and Marquette, with Villanova being the outlier. Overall, the Big Ten is a far superior conference right now, and it's not even close.
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I didn't see that at all. For slow kids the SHU players spent an awful lot of time chasing them around. They were actually pretty quick. That's why the're able to get off shots.
This is why I can't take shu fans seriously when they try to spread their doom and gloom. Corey sanders leaves and we are a better team with mostly freshman. We can all imagine making the tournament going forward when our freshman this year were beating teams like Iowa on senior night with NCAA chances in the air. Shu? Can't for the life of me imagine how they will ever make the tourney next year (or the year following etc etc). We are on two different trajectories. One is up. One is down. Guess which team is which.
I'll chime in as a MASSIVE BE hater.
1) SHOE deserved to make the Tourney this year I'm sorry to say, but that win vs Kentucky (neutral court) IMHO carried far too much weight. They made the BE final and could have won and they did have the road win vs MD. They deserved it. That being said--complete one man team. Now it doesn't matter how many people contribute and if you're a one man team and you win then you win. Congrats and kudos. But SHOE isn't a good TEAM.. They win or have a shot to win when Powell shoots well. They lose to any decent competition if he's off. They are hard to watch. Mamamucheksikehgihsihwightkvilli has potential but as mentioned they got nothing else. Hope some European team offers Powell a big contract :) He's a damn fine player and I hope he leaves but I doubt he will. He doesn't have the size to play in the NBA and I doubt he'll be drafted and his only options might be overseas. Hmm that sounds familiar except our guy left:chairshot:
2) The BE sucks. lets roll the "old message board tape" out from when we split with those scumbag CYOs. I said it wouldn't happen immediately but over time perhaps a decade the BE would be a good mid major conference but their days of being a major college conference were over. I feel we're right on schedule with that. The teams are super soft . have to say the toughest (not the best) team I saw in the BE was SHOE.
3) SJU had no business being in the tourney after starting off 12-0 and doing crap the rest of the way. Their best game of the year was against us where they were throwing s**t in blindfolded. Was just one of those nights.
4) The BE's problem-as it was and as I harped on for YEARS when we were in it -is that it's chock full of teams that few care about. Private CYO schools don't excite people , sorry to say (throw compass point and schools named after a city in there too). They aren't popular and over time the $$ differential is going to be too hard for them to overcome. St John's is NOT , and never has been "NYC's team". They are a private school that plays in the city and plays some of their games at the overrated Garden. SHOE is not NJ's team. Marquette is not Wisconsin's team. DePaul is not Illinois' team. Butler is not Indiana's team..the list goes on They have their followings but they are not going to draw eyeballs to the TV sets like state Us will. That will hurt them over time as well.
5) was happy to see Mack leave his alma mater for a P5 school. Granted it's Louisville which is a powerhouse but you will see more of that in the future IMHO. That should tell you where the BE sits. wish Wright would leave but he won't stay forever
1) SHOE deserved to make the Tourney this year I'm sorry to say, but that win vs Kentucky (neutral court) IMHO carried far too much weight. They made the BE final and could have won and they did have the road win vs MD. They deserved it. That being said--complete one man team. Now it doesn't matter how many people contribute and if you're a one man team and you win then you win. Congrats and kudos. But SHOE isn't a good TEAM.. They win or have a shot to win when Powell shoots well. They lose to any decent competition if he's off. They are hard to watch. Mamamucheksikehgihsihwightkvilli has potential but as mentioned they got nothing else. Hope some European team offers Powell a big contract :) He's a damn fine player and I hope he leaves but I doubt he will. He doesn't have the size to play in the NBA and I doubt he'll be drafted and his only options might be overseas. Hmm that sounds familiar except our guy left:chairshot:
2) The BE sucks. lets roll the "old message board tape" out from when we split with those scumbag CYOs. I said it wouldn't happen immediately but over time perhaps a decade the BE would be a good mid major conference but their days of being a major college conference were over. I feel we're right on schedule with that. The teams are super soft . have to say the toughest (not the best) team I saw in the BE was SHOE.
3) SJU had no business being in the tourney after starting off 12-0 and doing crap the rest of the way. Their best game of the year was against us where they were throwing s**t in blindfolded. Was just one of those nights.
4) The BE's problem-as it was and as I harped on for YEARS when we were in it -is that it's chock full of teams that few care about. Private CYO schools don't excite people , sorry to say (throw compass point and schools named after a city in there too). They aren't popular and over time the $$ differential is going to be too hard for them to overcome. St John's is NOT , and never has been "NYC's team". They are a private school that plays in the city and plays some of their games at the overrated Garden. SHOE is not NJ's team. Marquette is not Wisconsin's team. DePaul is not Illinois' team. Butler is not Indiana's team..the list goes on They have their followings but they are not going to draw eyeballs to the TV sets like state Us will. That will hurt them over time as well.
5) was happy to see Mack leave his alma mater for a P5 school. Granted it's Louisville which is a powerhouse but you will see more of that in the future IMHO. That should tell you where the BE sits. wish Wright would leave but he won't stay forever
Last 5 years?
I guess that’s one way to say it.
I prefer to say “since Seton Hall CHEATED and hired the handlers of players.”
Tomato, tomatoe I guess.
He said Plan “B”.
That is Williards Plan “A”.
Plan “B” is get top recruits from the legendary Canary Islands.
Just because Rutgers hasn’t made the tournament in X years doesn’t mean that the Big East is good this year. There is no correlation. Rutgers could
Miss the NCAAs the next 100 years, shut down the program tomorrow, and the big east should still have not gotten 4 teams in the NCAAs and they may not get that many in again for a long time now that they have been exposed again.
Miss the NCAAs the next 100 years, shut down the program tomorrow, and the big east should still have not gotten 4 teams in the NCAAs and they may not get that many in again for a long time now that they have been exposed again.
No one said they're good this year-----feel free to show that.
The point most posters have made defending them is it's cyclical.
Big East is down this year no doubt. Amazing though that fans of a school that have one of the longest streaks of not even making the bubble never mind the tournament has the nerve to make fun of other schools for getting beat in the tournament. But that is Rutgers fans for you have nothing else to do this time of year.
Nothing to do with Rutgers, topic is Big East. The Johnnies had no business in the tournament. Evan Roberts made a comment about the Johnnies schedule and mentioned RU. Cal finished 243 in Kenpom, how about having that lousy team on your OOC?
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