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This loss is on Pike...

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He decided to stop playing offense at some point with about 6-8 minutes left. Draining the shot clock and then having someone force up a shit shot is not offense. He gift wrapped this for NW.

Absolutely comical how we find ways to lose games.
 
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Oh yeah, you did and you're still wrong.
I agree RU MAN.......this one is NOT on Coach P

-Free throws!!!!!!!!!
-Cory with the SAME right lane drive over & over>>when 3 guys converge on U> PASS to CJ underneath!!!
-leaving the same guy open for a 3,,,twice the last 2 minutes
-3 VERY questionable calls late

PLENTY of blame to go around
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I am SURE the guys feel terrible...
 
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Did you watch our offense? We know we are going to miss our FT's. We are a poor shooting team yet almost all of our shots were off the dribble at the end. The plan to run the shot clock down and do that ISO bullshit was ridiculous. Meanwhile, NW got good looks.
 
Refs didn't help either from the 4 minute mark on. It started with phantom over the back call on Gettys where he made the putback, they made 2 free throws other way- 4 point swing. Then next 2 possessions touch foul calls that had no affect on the play, four more points from the foul line. 8 pints in a 2 minute period when we had a 4 point lead. Should have been up 8 with 2 minutes left. Very frustrating.
 
I agree RU MAN.......this one is NOT on Coach P

-Free throws!!!!!!!!!
-Cory with the SAME right lane drive over & over>>when 3 guys converge on U> PASS to CJ underneath!!!
-leaving the same guy open for a 3,,,twice the last 2 minutes
-3 VERY questionable calls late

PLENTY of blame to go around
and
I am SURE the guys feel terrible...
I couldn't agree more. Corey needs to learn how to successfully go to his left. When you're not a winning program you never seem to get those calls especially at the end of a game.

I believe this loss began when Mike Williams, whom I love missed the front end of a one and one and then McIntosh came down the court and nailed his only 3 point shot of the game. That put us down 2 and we never recovered. Heartbreaking. Just heartbreaking for our kids who played their guts out.
 
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Refs didn't help either from the 4 minute mark on. It started with phantom over the back call on Gettys where he made the putback, they made 2 free throws other way- 4 point swing. Then next 2 possessions touch foul calls that had no affect on the play, four more points from the foul line. 8 pints in a 2 minute period when we had a 4 point lead. Should have been up 8 with 2 minutes left. Very frustrating.
We knew it was coming...can't let RU hurt a BIG team in the tourney hunt.:(
 
Lose this game by 20 last year , give me a break
Agree but at some point we need to figure out how to finish a game. We flat out couldn't do it tonight. I've seen this game too many times in the past. Coach Pikiell has gotten as much out of game his team as anyone could expect. Next step is to teach them to finish.
 
Simply do not agree with the premise that we stopped playing offense


to me its more like our offense is what it is, not very good, we made up for it alot tonight with 2nd chance opportunities after misses. I think some thing our guys can shoot lights out but they just have no consistency....50% in first half but only 33% in 2nd and just 1-8 on 3s. Only quibble is that Sanders jacked up an illadvised 3 when the game was RU up 1.
 
Patrick,

Watch again. We ran a 3 man weave up top with no one even thinking about moving towards the basket. Then johnson or sanders would pull it out and then try to bull rush towards the hoop or shoot a pull up jumper. Total ISO garbage. Pike guaranteed a loss with that crap.
 
Did you watch our offense? We know we are going to miss our FT's. We are a poor shooting team yet almost all of our shots were off the dribble at the end. The plan to run the shot clock down and do that ISO bullshit was ridiculous. Meanwhile, NW got good looks.
You couldn't be more off base, that's how you're supposed to play with a lead in the last 4 minutes. It came down to a few bad calls and 2 bad defensive possessions by us.
 
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The OP is right regarding the offense, it completely stalled out, around the 6-8 minute mark. Is part of that on Pikiell? Yeah definitely. Did Pikiell choose an offensive strategy to kill time like the OP is suggesting? Absolutely not.

In conclusion, the OP is a giant Jabroni.
 
RU didn't get quality looks in the 1st half but they went in. 3's off the dribble is not a quality look for anyone in a RU uniform. Anyone disagree with that? Their stats for the season say they were lucky in the 1st half. Reality set in the 2nd half and th e shit looks didn't fall.
 
Dld,

You're supposed to shut down the offense with 6 minutes left? We basically refused to even think about looking for a shot with more than 10 seconds left on the shot clock.

The team can't shot. They need to work hard at getting quality looks at any point in the possession. They are clearly not good enough to get a good look in the last 10 seconds of the shot clock.
 
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I saw two big sequences. The one was the call of over the back on Gettys when he made the basket which of course didn't count. NW got the call and hit two foul shots for a 4 point swing. Even the announcers said that was a questionable call as they didn't see a foul. The replay absolutely showed no contact. The other was when we were up 4 and Williams had a one in one that he missed. We had hit 4 in a row before that (Gettys 2, & Nigel 2). After Mike missed McIntosh hit a 3 to make it a one point game. Our kids again player their rear end off but we didn't get a couple of calls down the stretch on the road. Even Nigel missed a 3 down the stretch and it looked like he was hammered. Joe Boylan even mentioned that after the game.
 
Agree but at some point we need to figure out how to finish a game. We flat out couldn't do it tonight. I've seen this game too many times in the past. Coach Pikiell has gotten as much out of game his team as anyone could expect. Next step is to teach them to finish.
Another step must be to recruit better players that can make shots in crunch time.Coachj Pikiell simply can't squeeze anymore points from this team so that they can reach a winnable 70 point range.
 
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Remember BAC, Sanders did not play last year vs Northwestern but we get the point. Dadika played 20 minutes last year.
 
We did not stop playing offense this time. We did that in a game in the recent past and lost, trying to run the clock. I specifically thought about it tonight as the game ran down, from 12 mins to 8 mins and said wow great job Coach Pikiell keeping us running plays instead of dribbling around. The few times we slowed it down was because of momentum or key possessions, as it should be. But we did not play "prevent" O tonight. We missed three key 3 pointers in the final 3 mins and then Mike (AMAZING EFFORT ALL NIGHT THOUGH, ALL NIGHT) sadly fell victim to our woes again and missed the front end of the 1-1, those two things are what cost us in the end.
 
I saw two big sequences. The one was the call of over the back on Gettys when he made the basket which of course didn't count. NW got the call and hit two foul shots for a 4 point swing. Even the announcers said that was a questionable call as they didn't see a foul. The replay absolutely showed no contact. The other was when we were up 4 and Williams had a one in one that he missed. We had hit 4 in a row before that (Gettys 2, & Nigel 2). After Mike missed McIntosh hit a 3 to make it a one point game. Our kids again player their rear end off but we didn't get a couple of calls down the stretch on the road. Even Nigel missed a 3 down the stretch and it looked like he was hammered. Joe Boylan even mentioned that after the game.
B1G didn't want a scarlet letter on NW's Big Dance resume. Pun intended.
 
He decided to stop playing offense at some point with about 6-8 minutes left. Draining the shot clock and then having someone force up a shit shot is not offense. He gift wrapped this for NW.

Absolutely comical how we find ways to lose games.

What is comical is how stupid this post is.
 
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He decided to stop playing offense at some point with about 6-8 minutes left. Draining the shot clock and then having someone force up a shit shot is not offense. He gift wrapped this for NW.

Absolutely comical how we find ways to lose games.

WTF?
 
Did u guys watch the same game?

I guess being critical of pike is not allowed. By the way, I'm a big fan of Pike. Overall he has been maximizing the talent he has right now. I don't care about the HORRIBLE shooting percentages.
 
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Stop it with the refs. Sure, the Gettys call was horrible, but it didn't cost us the game. Sure O was fouled in the lane, but we got the rebound and the foul -- and missed the 1 & 1. If we had BE refs, we'd have lost by 20. If you taped the game, look at the fouls in the last 6 minutes. LEGITIMATE. We just defended stupidly.
 
Stop it with the refs. Sure, the Gettys call was horrible, but it didn't cost us the game. Sure O was fouled in the lane, but we got the rebound and the foul -- and missed the 1 & 1. If we had BE refs, we'd have lost by 20. If you taped the game, look at the fouls in the last 6 minutes. LEGITIMATE. We just defended stupidly.

We basically lost by 2.

The Gettys foul was a 4 point swing.

YOU stop with the stop with the refs.
 
I imagine the the OP would have been on here complaining if we lost the game, because with a lead, we came down and jacked up the first shot and not tried to drain the clock.
We don't get easy baskets, so we have to make the other team defend and then crash the boards.
 
I want to see us work and get a quality shot. I've said all season that I'm fine with the losses because we can't shoot. Show me that you can figure out a way to get good looks.

Coming down and shooting a quick 3 off the dribble? Bad shot. Drive and kick for an uncontested 3? Good shot no matter what the result. Johnson missed a great look the other day at the end of the game. I loved that it was a spot up open look.
 
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This loss certainly is on Pikiell. If it wasn't for him, who knows what RU could've done. If only we had a game against NW without Pikiell as coach to look at for comparison purposes. If only . . .
 
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Stop it with the refs. Sure, the Gettys call was horrible, but it didn't cost us the game. Sure O was fouled in the lane, but we got the rebound and the foul -- and missed the 1 & 1. If we had BE refs, we'd have lost by 20. If you taped the game, look at the fouls in the last 6 minutes. LEGITIMATE. We just defended stupidly.
I don't think anyone argued that the late calls against us putting them on the line were not legitimate other than the Gettys call – – they obviously were. And I don't think anyone argued that the referees were horrible through the entire course of the game. That has only happened twice this year. But northwestern caught two huge breaks in the final stages of a game that went down to the wire. And we will never know if the outcome would have been different without those calls.
 
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Won't disagree. I've always believed that the overall reffing of a game is rarely blatently one-sided. Referees can more easily and quietly affect the game by the judicious use of the whistle (e.g. two quick fouls on an important player). We could've let the call against Gettys snowball and let the game slip away. The non-call on Omeruyi didn't matter with Williams fouled on the loose ball/rebound. That we missed the 1 and 1 was telling.

Winning teams overcome calls like that. We know those kind of calls happen all the time --- on both sides. It's a player/team's ability to put the blinders on and play through them that gets wins. We just don't do it often enough. We miss the FTs, commit the turnover, commit the frustration foul. When we get to that point (and we will) the wins will come.
 
He decided to stop playing offense at some point with about 6-8 minutes left. Draining the shot clock and then having someone force up a shit shot is not offense. He gift wrapped this for NW.

Absolutely comical how we find ways to lose games.
Are you kidding me with this nonsense?!
 
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