Thoughts on first game

[higgins3]

Sat behind the bench thanks to RutgersRaRa and his generosity. Those seats are amazing and allow you to really get into the game. Thanks!

I thought the first half was pretty laughable. No consistency, and no real flow on either side.

Things that stood out to me was the obvious Mike Williams being the heart beat of this team. Great defense, good motion on offense. Goode is going to have to move more to get his shots.

I thought Goode has a decent game. He hits his free throws, and his defense was okay. He will definitely get some minutes 5-7 and I don't think he is a huge liability.

I think Daniels is getting into the team concept more. Not a great game, but is wiling to sacrifice himself for the good of the team, which will help us.

I thought Foreman had a good game from a passing point of view. Definitely a better passer than I expected. I saw a lot of plays where he was the main reason they happened.

Freeman is a big kid and I think will be able to help us out a bunch.

I think our guard depth is okay. I like the fact that we have a player in Goode that will be able to help out at times. I think our shooting will be better with Sanders,obviously.

Greg Lewis seemed kind of silent. I liked DIallos size, and I think as the season goes he gets better.

I think the team looks better than last year. MOre options, and that was apparent.

For the most part, it was a game against a d3 team. It's hard to place any weight on it. Our players got really excited with the win, and that's great, but in the BIG you can take any of our players stats tonight and cut them in half. That's how much better the competition will be.

 

[higgins3]

I am fine with Goode getting 10-20 minutes. I don't think he is as big of a liablity as people onc esaid.

 

[RutgHoops]

I think Goode can be a contributor in time. Not sure if that happens as an RS Frosh. I don't think we see 10-20mpg this season. 5 minutes here, a DNP there, .....

 

[jonS]

I don't like Daniels game. He can't shoot a lick. Big difference was Freeman. excellent hands and good moves in the paint. However Rutgers defense in the paint was awful. Nobody picked up once a Newark kid shed his man and went to the hoop. Team will definitely have problems with physical teams.

 

[jonS]

I am fine with Goode getting 10-20 minutes. I don't think he is as big of a liablity as people onc esaid.

I like Goode's game. He looks like a solid player who plays smart with a decent outside shot.....He'll contribute..

 

[MadRU]

Goode's game time will be influenced by match ups. Early in the first game he was shaky, picking up his dribble after one dribble every time. Also had a few turnovers. He seemed to settle down some after making a couple shots.

We were upset when his last foul shot in game one actually nicked the rim, every other one was pure net. He is 8 for 8 I believe so far.

 

[jonS]

Freeman is very impressive--a bull around the basket with very good hands

 

[higgins3]

Agree . Daniels is an d1 athlete but not a d1 basketball player.

i agree. Where Mack was a basketball player, Daniels is an athlete and then a basketball player. I hope he finds his way.

 

[higgins3]

Freeman is very impressive--a bull around the basket with very good hands

Exactly what we need. Like other said, Jack had the athleticism but Freeman will be a lot more important to this NCAA basketball team. He is a SMART player who is willing to take burden off himself and pass to his team mates.

 

[higgins3]

Goode's game time will be influenced by match ups. Early in the first game he was shaky, picking up his dribble after one dribble every time. Also had a few turnovers. He seemed to settle down some after making a couple shots.

We were upset when his last foul shot in game one actually nicked the rim, every other one was pure net. He is 8 for 8 I believe so far.

Gotta like Goode late in games for his free throw skills. If he can learn to draw fouls, he will be a great player. His pump fake is great.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

i agree. Where Mack was a basketball player, Daniels is an athlete and then a basketball player. I hope he finds his way.

Let's not bury the guy yet.

As I said before he is more of an asset vs. man defenses. Worth noting at the end of the 1st half who did Jordan choose to have the ball.

Most teams we will face may have a guy who can stay in front of Sanders or Daniels, but will they have 2 that can stay in front of both Daniels and Sanders.

What I'd like to see (don't think it happens) is Sanders asked to play 32 MPG and really go after it defensively which means by default Daniels ends up playing anywhere between 20-28 MPG.

based on what I saw in 2 games (subject to change!) I'd like

1- Sanders (32) Williams (8)
2- Daniels (24) Williams (16)
3- Foreman (8) Laurent (16) Williams (4) Goode (12)
4- Freeman (24) Foreman (16)
5- Lewis (20) Diallo (12) Freeman (8)

Sanders 32
freeman 32
Williams 28
Daniels 24
Foreman 24
Lewis 20
Laurent 16
Goode 12
Diallo 12

Biggest question marks in my mind is Laurent. I am not sure if he is a 10 MPG guy or 20MPG. Also Foreman.

I do see a team that may be at it's best with smaller lineups. I am also intrigued vs. man having both Daniels and Sanders along with Goode. Asking them to penetrate with Goode on the strong side wing and Freeman down low on the weak side is attractive. that team probably doesn't press and can only play man if there is a stiff under 6' 6'' on the court.

 

[RU-ROCS]

Agree . Daniels is an d1 athlete but not a d1 basketball player.

Seems right to me too. Bishop gives good effort, but not only does he have a bad shot, but the high basketball IQ doesn't seem to be there. I would like to have seen more of Grier to see if he has more to offer than Daniels. Since both are seniors, Eddie's got to play the guy who is best suited for the team oriented play he's trying to develop. I guess for now that's still Daniels.

 

[higgins3]

Let's not bury the guy yet.

As I said before he is more of an asset vs. man defenses. Worth noting at the end of the 1st half who did Jordan choose to have the ball.

Most teams we will face may have a guy who can stay in front of Sanders or Daniels, but will they have 2 that can stay in front of both Daniels and Sanders.

What I'd like to see (don't think it happens) is Sanders asked to play 32 MPG and really go after it defensively which means by default Daniels ends up playing anywhere between 20-28 MPG.

based on what I saw in 2 games (subject to change!) I'd like

1- Sanders (32) Williams (8)
2- Daniels (24) Williams (16)
3- Foreman (8) Laurent (16) Williams (4) Goode (12)
4- Freeman (24) Foreman (16)
5- Lewis (20) Diallo (12) Freeman (8)

Sanders 32
freeman 32
Williams 28
Daniels 24
Foreman 24
Lewis 20
Laurent 16
Goode 12
Diallo 12

Biggest question marks in my mind is Laurent. I am not sure if he is a 10 MPG guy or 20MPG. Also Foreman.

I do see a team that may be at it's best with smaller lineups. I am also intrigued vs. man having both Daniels and Sanders along with Goode. Asking them to penetrate with Goode on the strong side wing and Freeman down low on the weak side is attractive. that team probably doesn't press and can only play man if there is a stiff under 6' 6'' on the court.

I am not giving up on Daniels, I am just saying, a lot of people are talking about how they want more out of him. I think he can be a great player. He has shown improvement and is handeling the ball better. What we have to always keep in perspective-this is only two games into the season.

I think as the season goes on obviously, a guy like Laurent improves. Right now, I don't expect him to have as quick of an adjustment period as Sanders. Whereas Sanders goes for steals, that is what leads to the play that him and Laurent excel in,fast. Next game we will have to see how well he is gambling with those steals, and if it is effective and makes sense. I think Laurent can be a 10-20 mpg guy, but it will take a couple games.

I like the fundamentals of Justin Goode. He has a very valuable role on this team. I hope Coach Jordan is getting on Foreman with his ft shooting. Those shots will end up winning or losing us games this year.I'd like t see Diallo get a little more minutes seeing Lewis is out next year.

 

[RutgHoops]

GRFIG--Grier is getting minutes. May only be 5-10 a game, but he will have very few if any "DNP-Coaches decision".

 

[RU-ROCS]

Let's not bury the guy yet.

As I said before he is more of an asset vs. man defenses. Worth noting at the end of the 1st half who did Jordan choose to have the ball.

Most teams we will face may have a guy who can stay in front of Sanders or Daniels, but will they have 2 that can stay in front of both Daniels and Sanders.

What I'd like to see (don't think it happens) is Sanders asked to play 32 MPG and really go after it defensively which means by default Daniels ends up playing anywhere between 20-28 MPG.

based on what I saw in 2 games (subject to change!) I'd like

1- Sanders (32) Williams (8)
2- Daniels (24) Williams (16)
3- Foreman (8) Laurent (16) Williams (4) Goode (12)
4- Freeman (24) Foreman (16)
5- Lewis (20) Diallo (12) Freeman (8)

Sanders 32
freeman 32
Williams 28
Daniels 24
Foreman 24
Lewis 20
Laurent 16
Goode 12
Diallo 12
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FIG-

Not sure what you see in Daniels. I'd rather see Mike Williams get his starters minutes even if he gives up some height. IMHO, Mike's got a better motor, better basketball IQ, is more tenacious defensively and has a better shot that Daniels (which I know is not saying much). I'd bring Daniels off the bench for 15 min. a game and give Grier a shot at taking some of his minutes.

 

[higgins3]

FIG-

Not sure what you see in Daniels. I'd rather see Mike Williams get his starters minutes even if he gives up some height. IMHO, Mike's got a better motor, better basketball IQ, is more tenacious defensively and has a better shot that Daniels (which I know is not saying much). I'd bring Daniels off the bench for 15 min. a game and give Grier a shot at taking some of his minutes.

I always thought Daniels was more of a 6th man. I was confident in that. Still, I hope the young fella can have a great year. Him and Sanders getting it out on transition can bring even more energy. Laurents dunk yesterday- I wish I was at the game- I would have lost it. Great stuff.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

FIG-

Not sure what you see in Daniels.

Sometimes I ask myself that question. I am intrigued by his athleticism I suppose.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

GRFIG--Grier is getting minutes. May only be 5-10 a game, but he will have very few if any "DNP-Coaches decision".

You are probably right.

You look at Daniels, Grier, Goode and Williams that all play the same position. these guys are fighting for 4 minutes Jordan will sit Sanders PLUS 40 at 2, PLUS however many minutes we go go 3 guard. (60 or so in total?)

Goode right now is ahead of Grier based on Grier's 2nd half DNP. if Grier can knock down open 3s and defend enough I can see Grier taking Goode minutes. I have a tough time seeing both combining for any more than 20 MPG without injuries......or in RUs athletic world suspensions.

I just hope Jordan carves out minutes at least for 3 out of the 4 consistently and roles are defined. We can't have guys not knowing their roles and then come in to games trying to do too much. Daniels being my biggest fear here.

 

[jellyman]

You are probably right.

You look at Daniels, Grier, Goode and Williams that all play the same position. these guys are fighting for 4 minutes Jordan will sit Sanders PLUS 40 at 2, PLUS however many minutes we go go 3 guard. (60 or so in total?)

Goode right now is ahead of Grier based on Grier's 2nd half DNP. if Grier can knock down open 3s and defend enough I can see Grier taking Goode minutes. I have a tough time seeing both combining for any more than 20 MPG without injuries......or in RUs athletic world suspensions.

I just hope Jordan carves out minutes at least for 3 out of the 4 consistently and roles are defined. We can't have guys not knowing their roles and then come in to games trying to do too much. Daniels being my biggest fear here.

Grier will play more at the 3 than at the 2, based on what we saw in the 1st 2 games. Looks like Jordan will mix and match Foreman, Laurent and Grier at Wing Forward. Foreman plays WF and PF. Freeman plays PF and a little C.

 

[jonS]

Exactly what we need. Like other said, Jack had the athleticism but Freeman will be a lot more important to this NCAA basketball team. He is a SMART player who is willing to take burden off himself and pass to his team mates.

Agreed. Jack had skills but didn't make the rest of the team better. Also his reliance on his outside shot last year hurt Rutgers inside. On the other hand , I really like Rutgers inside game this year. It will reduce the long scoring droughts we had so often last year when outside shots weren't dropping.

 

[RutgersFbFan]

Sometimes I ask myself that question. I am intrigued by his athleticism I suppose.

Don't underestimate the ability to get to the paint at will..if he plays more under control when driving to the lane, i think he can create mismatches w/ his quickness and athleticism

 

[higgins3]

Agreed. Jack had skills but didn't make the rest of the team better. Also his reliance on his outside shot last year hurt Rutgers inside. On the other hand , I really like Rutgers inside game this year. It will reduce the long scoring droughts we had so often last year when outside shots weren't dropping.

Inside game looks a little more reliable than perimeter. If we can hit shots on the perimeter, we could be a decent team. I have hopes for this team now and next year. I agree, Jacks outside shot hurt us, especially since it only left one person that was reliable to get a rebound since he was not there.

Should be a fun season watching these guys progress.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Greene

That's a good mpg chart...except foreman is going to get 28-30
A game...

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Let's not bury the guy yet.

As I said before he is more of an asset vs. man defenses. Worth noting at the end of the 1st half who did Jordan choose to have the ball.

Most teams we will face may have a guy who can stay in front of Sanders or Daniels, but will they have 2 that can stay in front of both Daniels and Sanders.

What I'd like to see (don't think it happens) is Sanders asked to play 32 MPG and really go after it defensively which means by default Daniels ends up playing anywhere between 20-28 MPG.

based on what I saw in 2 games (subject to change!) I'd like

1- Sanders (32) Williams (8)
2- Daniels (24) Williams (16)
3- Foreman (8) Laurent (16) Williams (4) Goode (12)
4- Freeman (24) Foreman (16)
5- Lewis (20) Diallo (12) Freeman (8)

Sanders 32
freeman 32
Williams 28
Daniels 24
Foreman 24
Lewis 20
Laurent 16
Goode 12
Diallo 12

Biggest question marks in my mind is Laurent. I am not sure if he is a 10 MPG guy or 20MPG. Also Foreman.

I do see a team that may be at it's best with smaller lineups. I am also intrigued vs. man having both Daniels and Sanders along with Goode. Asking them to penetrate with Goode on the strong side wing and Freeman down low on the weak side is attractive. that team probably doesn't press and can only play man if there is a stiff under 6' 6'' on the court.

Good Distribution FIG , but, I think you have to find some minutes for Grier. Jordan stated that the 3 point shooters are Williams, Goode and Grier. Maybe Grier and Goode fluctuate based on who is has a hot hand. Also, I would prefer not to see Daniels a lot if the opposing team is in a zone.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Greene

That's a good mpg chart...except foreman is going to get 28-30
A game...

Interesting. I still don't have a feel for him after 30 + 2 games.