You posted multiple times in multiple places that it was a huge mistake to replace Gavin with AK. Now it seems you are trying to hedge your bet by suggesting the improvement is about a massive wide out transformation. We haven’t executed any plays yet this year that required an acrobatic play by a wide out, nor are our receivers (even Miller) beating people to get open on long balls. We got lucky on one pass - the Duff TD. Otherwise it’s mostly success in the flats on short passes that were there all day last year if we wanted to and could execute them.
Have the first 3 games changed your outlook on this season?
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You posted multiple times in multiple places that it was a huge mistake to replace Gavin with AK. Now it seems you are trying to hedge your bet by suggesting the improvement is about a massive wide out transformation. We haven’t executed any plays yet this year that required an acrobatic play by a wide out, nor are our receivers (even Miller) beating people to get open on long balls. We got lucky on one pass - the Duff TD. Otherwise it’s mostly success in the flats on short passes that were there all day last year if we wanted to and could execute them.
Replacing 90% losses with 80% losses doesn’t change win total expectations all that much. A win Friday moves us into 8 win possibility territory. A loss and we’re still at 6 or 7 most likely.
Re: USC, I think that the big play ability of their WR is a big problem ; especially given our safety play this yr.
As a betting man, it’s not a good bet. Should just play powerball instead.
PS I hope TKR jinx works here for you
except- it is a one time bet- anyone playing lotto is doing it almost daily with no hope
Yeah, it could be a problem. If we eat the clock and score against their soft defense, it increases our chances. Can't score from the sidelines.
I didn't say "huge mistake" - I said RU was replacing one cast-off with another. The QB of passing offense # 127 was being replaced by QB from #126 and that's not anything to buy season tickets over. All the QBs in portal and that's the best B1G RU could do - move up one spot?
Then there was all the malarkey about Wimsatt's coming "season of mastery" (third year) and GS saying the spring game was just a "scrimmage for the fans" and "nothing could be determined" about QB. Somehow one QB with 3 TDs (2 running) was blown away by a QB with two.
I like Greg but I've learned he can do QBs dirty when it suits him (Dodd a good example). He had GW miss his last year of HS ball (every year counts a lot for QB) and then admitted it was a mistake. Then there was the carousel of revolving OCs and D3 WRs with bad OL . Kid turned down ND, Oregon, Michigan, Nebraska, Michigan St et al for the hot mess at RU. Then fans hated him after pushing for him to start (but too soon). It was crazy.
If a kid wants to be a DB at RU he should run to the program. If a kid want to be a QB run away from RU even faster. AK seems like a cool dude and I hope he does well over the season. Even if he does I have zero confidence in Schiano's offenses (and don't fall for idea its all Kirk's plan - GS hired him because he's the same as he is
I saw what Teel saw and trust him more than forum anons
“His athletic ability and talent just shined there,” Mike Teel, arguably the best quarterback in program history, told NJ Advance Media. “And you said, ‘Man, this kid is super talented and he’s got a really good future if he can continue to develop..
I think you always have to judge a quarterback based upon what the record is and how the team does,” Teel said. “At the end of the day, the kid did win seven games this past year, and he did lead the team to a bowl win. Overall, I think he did a great job.”
How Rutgers’ Gavin Wimsatt went from trumpeted recruit to another QB failure
Gavin Wimsatt was once seen as Rutgers football's quarterback of the future. That hope officially died when he entered the transfer portal late last month.
I have no idea. Howard and Akron are turning out to be worse than I thought when we played them. Our offense is no longer live-and-die by the run and this may open up games a bit. The defense is significantly worse than I had hoped, given the returning production. What’s this mean for the remaining 9? Your guess is as good as mine.
Good point.
Overall - still about the same as I was at the beginning -cautiously optimistic.
We are a bit better than I think expected but overall I’m getting the sense that our schedule is a bit tougher than expected…. So kinda equals out in my mind
Each game remaining we have at least a chance to win but then again we can lose any of the games
It’s gonna be an interesting ride !!
Maryland- Edwards has thrown for 311 against Uconn, 253 against MSU, 263 against UVa and 328 against Villanova. It's him at 1155 yards and Rogers at 1048 as the leading passers in the B1G. Edwards also has a 75% completion. I don't see a slowdown at all? At this rate, he could be over 3,000 yards passing and surpass Taulia. Am I missing something?
Washington- Kind of concerned about Rogers (see above) and WR Giles Jackson.
I felt all along that RU has ten consecutive highly competitive games.
RU offense is better than expected. However, Indiana, Illinois and others may also be better than anticipated. This is great fun.
If anyone thinks we did GW dirty, the proof is in the pudding.
RU offense is better than expected. However, Indiana, Illinois and others may also be better than anticipated. This is great fun.
If anyone thinks we did GW dirty, the proof is in the pudding.
I said, "and the offense has slowed after the UConn drubbing". They can't run, they have scored 24 vs MSU, 27 vs Virginia and 38 vs Villanova. MSU defense is good #14, Virginia is bad #98 and Villanova is FCS. We're at #35. Their defense has also fallen off and is ranked #74 and they have not faced murders row offensively.
Been saying for awhile now that our schedule is not as easy as most made it out to be .
Except- without what is usually a chip shot at 36 for a FG- fumble at the 3 and kneel at the 4 - we score 43-23
As you said- anyone’s guess lol
Shoulda, coulda. If not for the late heroics of one Mr. Longerbeam, the VPI offense had all the momentum and likely would’ve rumbled down the field to take the W. But it happened the way it happened. It still doesn’t tell me how the remaining 9 games pan out.
Edit: did I say 9 games? I meant 12 games. B1G championship for the bye and two playoff games. Hey, we’re undefeated and a guy can dream.
You forgot Illinois...and those are all losable, too. I'm expecting to go 4-5 the rest of the way to finish at the 7-5 I expected, but I have a bit more confidence in winning 8 than I did before, given what I've seen. If we beat UW, then even 9 wins starts to look feasible if we can stay healthy.
I said this elsewhere earlier today and I'll add something to as well:
The more I think about things:
- looked sloppy and slow out of the gate against Howard (tons of guys sat)
- cleaned that up against Akron (most still sat)
- looked dominating at times vs VT but some "head scratching" decisions kept us from stepping on their throats letting us coast to victory
....my guess? Greg "cleans" things up and doesn't let that happen again. We see the REAL Rutgers Football '24 Team out there, for the 1st time this season, vs The Huskies on Black Friday!!!
Okay adding the following:
When we saw this schedule the first thing that I thought was "the way this is set up....who we play when, who we play after our "byes," who has to travel when/where, who has a HUGE game the week after us....we've got a GREAT chance to win 8-9 games." Probably posted this, or similar, a dozen times since it came out and the start of the season.
- LOVE getting a "bye' before VT after 2 "scrimmages" and it paid off with Greg (apparently) running a VERY tough camp then having a month+ prior to travelling to B'Burg
- LOVE having a "bye" after traveling to LA and prior to getting Minny(H), @Mary, Ill (H finale), then @Sparty (who may be "done" by then....)
- LOVE that Washington has to travel across the country to play us on a Friday night with us coming off a road win, at Tech, undefeated
- LOVE that Washington knows it goes home for a rematch with Michigan the week after they play us
- LOVE getting UCLA for HC and Wiscy at home
....not unfortunately BOTH Nebby and Wiscy get Purdue the week prior to playing us BUT we only need to "split" those 2 IMHO. If we somehow get Washington, split with Neb/Wiscy, beat UCLA but drop one to SC, we come into the final stretch at 6-2 and I'm feeling VERY good about getting to 9 wins. JUST STAY HEALTHY!!!
The more I think about things:
- looked sloppy and slow out of the gate against Howard (tons of guys sat)
- cleaned that up against Akron (most still sat)
- looked dominating at times vs VT but some "head scratching" decisions kept us from stepping on their throats letting us coast to victory
....my guess? Greg "cleans" things up and doesn't let that happen again. We see the REAL Rutgers Football '24 Team out there, for the 1st time this season, vs The Huskies on Black Friday!!!
Okay adding the following:
When we saw this schedule the first thing that I thought was "the way this is set up....who we play when, who we play after our "byes," who has to travel when/where, who has a HUGE game the week after us....we've got a GREAT chance to win 8-9 games." Probably posted this, or similar, a dozen times since it came out and the start of the season.
- LOVE getting a "bye' before VT after 2 "scrimmages" and it paid off with Greg (apparently) running a VERY tough camp then having a month+ prior to travelling to B'Burg
- LOVE having a "bye" after traveling to LA and prior to getting Minny(H), @Mary, Ill (H finale), then @Sparty (who may be "done" by then....)
- LOVE that Washington has to travel across the country to play us on a Friday night with us coming off a road win, at Tech, undefeated
- LOVE that Washington knows it goes home for a rematch with Michigan the week after they play us
- LOVE getting UCLA for HC and Wiscy at home
....not unfortunately BOTH Nebby and Wiscy get Purdue the week prior to playing us BUT we only need to "split" those 2 IMHO. If we somehow get Washington, split with Neb/Wiscy, beat UCLA but drop one to SC, we come into the final stretch at 6-2 and I'm feeling VERY good about getting to 9 wins. JUST STAY HEALTHY!!!
Wisconsin is a shell of itself even with a healthy QB. Nebby is who I thought they were all along, one score losers. New coach, same results. They have yet to learn how to deal and handle tight situations.
Still not gonna be easy going out there especially after they lost Saturday and (likely) get to beat up on Purdue this week. Luckily we get an extra day to rest and prepare following Friday night's "W!"
To be fair, the only game I view as an automatic win left on the schedule is UCLA.
I still think 8 wins is a good possibility for this team, but there going to be a lot of close games.
The resiliency they just showed after getting tied in the VTech game is huge. The ability to completely counter strong, mid-game momentum in a tough environment is not a common factor in CFB.
The only thing you you’re getting is a $50 loss. These are the kind of bets that keep the lights on at sportsbooks.
This. We're going to learn a lot about our team on Friday. Beating two tomato cans and a bad VT team won't say as much as what we do versus Washington.
Honestly - there’s not much data yet available out there to support any conclusions about how Washington would stack up vs VTech. Vandy can obviously be a tough out at home seeing that they just took Missouri to OT and lost because they missed a chip FG. Washington lost to Wash State and hasn’t played anyone else other than a depleted NW team at home. So the jury is still out.
The 76% completion percentage for Rogers is what scares me. That’s just insane.
You know as well as I do, no game is easy. I just like the how Rutgers matches up against the remaining teams on the schedule. We established we can run the ball successfully enough against a 9 or 10 man box. Now you throw in a competent passing game, it makes us dangerous. We still know how to control the clock, which shortens the game in our favor. Add several key players back on defense, makes us one of the few complete teams in the B1G.
he didn't do GW or Dodd dirty. GW was given a year and a half to prove himself. Dodd was given his chances as well. Dodd was really the perfect number 2 QBI didn't say "huge mistake" - I said RU was replacing one cast-off with another. The QB of passing offense # 127 was being replaced by QB from #126 and that's not anything to buy season tickets over. All the QBs in portal and that's the best B1G RU could do - move up one spot?
Then there was all the malarkey about Wimsatt's coming "season of mastery" (third year) and GS saying the spring game was just a "scrimmage for the fans" and "nothing could be determined" about QB. Somehow one QB with 3 TDs (2 running) was blown away by a QB with two.
I like Greg but I've learned he can do QBs dirty when it suits him (Dodd a good example). He had GW miss his last year of HS ball (every year counts a lot for QB) and then admitted it was a mistake. Then there was the carousel of revolving OCs and D3 WRs with bad OL . Kid turned down ND, Oregon, Michigan, Nebraska, Michigan St et al for the hot mess at RU. Then fans hated him after pushing for him to start (but too soon). It was crazy.
If a kid wants to be a DB at RU he should run to the program. If a kid want to be a QB run away from RU even faster. AK seems like a cool dude and I hope he does well over the season. Even if he does I have zero confidence in Schiano's offenses (and don't fall for idea its all Kirk's plan - GS hired him because he's the same as he is
I saw what Teel saw and trust him more than forum anons
“His athletic ability and talent just shined there,” Mike Teel, arguably the best quarterback in program history, told NJ Advance Media. “And you said, ‘Man, this kid is super talented and he’s got a really good future if he can continue to develop..
I think you always have to judge a quarterback based upon what the record is and how the team does,” Teel said. “At the end of the day, the kid did win seven games this past year, and he did lead the team to a bowl win. Overall, I think he did a great job.”
How Rutgers’ Gavin Wimsatt went from trumpeted recruit to another QB failure
Gavin Wimsatt was once seen as Rutgers football's quarterback of the future. That hope officially died when he entered the transfer portal late last month.www.nj.com
Have mentioned before that i thought every game, besides away at USC, was winnable and not a really difficult ask. Doesn’t mean that we’ll win all of those but still feel the same way. Nothing has changed for me.
I’m concerned about giving up chunk plays.
Washington is going to run a lot of sophisticated clear outs, underneath and seam routes.
I think our DB’s will be very busy and have to make a lot of important decisions.
QB pressure is obviously huge, but be aware, the immobile highly average Iowa QB carved us up in the 3rd and 4th quarter last year
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I was at 7.5 wins before MT tore his ACL last week of camp. Then 7.
My guess is 8 now, but realizing that missing MT from ACL, MM and DJ to the NFL takes a lot out of the tackling. Otherwise would go higher on the win total.
My guess is 8 now, but realizing that missing MT from ACL, MM and DJ to the NFL takes a lot out of the tackling. Otherwise would go higher on the win total.
I think getting Wes Bailey at full speed this week is going to make a huge difference. He only played limited snaps last week and not in the 4th quarter and you saw the difference he makes. Lewis is not our best pass rusher like some want to believe, Bailey's play is far superior. Washington's line is very suspect, losing every single starter from last year.
This
When Wes came out in Q4 our Defense took a major step backwards. We all saw what happened . Hopefully he closer to 100% on Friday night.
