Thoughts on Pikiell’s Words About Peter Kiss?
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To be granted a 6th year of eligibility, medical documentation proving that a player was medically unable to play for both seasons is needed, sitting out a transfer year is not considered medically unable to play.
It is between a player and a coach. The fans do not have a right to know those parts of a program.
There obviously is some agreement between Pikiell and Kiss regarding future transfer and years of eligibility.There is no plausible reason for him not playing at end of games without such a agreement since he is a scholarship player and those playing are walkons.
After the SH game, he walked of the court alone, rather than celebrate with his teammates, and he was not in the postgame team picture. That potentially indicates he was upset at his lack of playing time, versus having an agreement with the coach about his not playing. (Of course it is possible that he had an agreement to not play, and had another obligation after the game that required him to leave quickly.)
"more intimate"? maybe from your perspective but if you ever played football you'd have to say it's one of the most personal, unselfish ,true team sports where your brothers at arms are super important to each other--with or without a hemet
I don't know the NCAA bylaws and warming up in sweats is allowed by everyone on scholarship that could play. I have already stated multiple times that it is not a guarantee he would get a 6th season or that he actually has an injury designation......, just that it is possible that if he's not going to play major minutes and there are no depth concerns at his position, it would already make ZERO sense for Kiss to not see if that is an option.
Having ANY option (whether small or remote) vs no option is potentially the thought process. I have no idea what the exact thought process is, just that it's not uncommon across college sports in this day and age.
Not to sidetrack the whole roster management, but there has already been speculation that Oskar Palmquist is a 2020 commit and will potentially arrive for the spring semester in a couple of weeks and be counted as a 2019 recruit.....he's already 19 (or the age of most freshman or sophomores), that if he were to enroll in school at RU, that he could play at some point during THIS season.
The kid (Palmquist) is capable of making a decision that arriving and potentially playing this year, may be worth it and that he may nor forsee himself being at RU for 5 years vs just 4. if he arrives as a redshirt and doesn't play at all this year, he would still have 4 years to play 4 seasons, with this year counting as a redshirt season. If he plays in a handful of games and is then just left with 4 years to play the last 3, he would provide another layer of support or depth as a forward ASAP, even if it's a small role.....he still benefits by practicing and learning the system.
I had a couple of people that were super excited behind the scenes that when Palmquist committed that he would be another steal by Pike......but they were concerned that he left his Prep School in Florida, that he may decide to just pursue playing professionally in Sweden or elsewhere overseas,and bypassing college altogether here in the USA.
So while we think about Kiss, the bigger picture is well beyond whether Kiss gets the standard 1 or possibly 2 years, if the grad transfer is the obvious path. The larger question is that we could have another player on the roster in the next 10 to 30 days, with a redshirt designation, that could see the floor THIS season if that redshirt is burned on half or a portion of this season. Since Palmquist and Kiss don't play the same position, it's not connected that Palmquist is taking potential minutes away from Kiss, just that we have another "break glass in case of emergency" option on the table.
I am not advocating that this isn't about Peter Kiss, Palmquist or any other specific individual player. My only message is I am supporting whatever makes the RU program better or that it continues to improve. That means there's going to be player fallout/attrition and constant moving of the roster etc.
I think he meant it's more intimate between the fans and players, and wasn't making any comment about the bonds between players themselves.
In basketball, you generally can recognize every scholarship player by their face (and frequently the walkons), and know their facial expressions when they're happy/mad/frustrated/etc. The court is also much smaller than a football field, so the reactions/expressions of bench players are more easily seen by fans in attendance and get a lot more face time on television, too.
In football, there are far more scholarship players and faces are usually hidden behind helmets. A handful of backup players might not even be on the sideline for a game, and most fans wouldn't notice it. When a reserve player gets hurt on special teams, it can send fans searching to match a jersey number with a name. Players on the sideline are harder to distinguish by face from the stands, and don't get a lot of screen time on TV. So there's a bit more of a distancing between the fans and the players themselves.
I must have missed it if Pike has addressed this question previously in his pressers this year. If so, then I agree that it should not be asked repeatedly until there is a change in circumstances that might warrant an update.
Wow, we have a late entry for peckerhead post of the year.
Man that is SO unnecessary.
If there is a non zero percent chance he may be needed then you want to get him in a game like this so he will be ready if the opportunity comes.
This might be the dumbest thing ever posted on this site.
He was cheering his teammates on (along with the starters) during garbage time against Caldwell. He did not seem upset that he was not in but it must be killing him and his family unless he already knows he can transfer next year and be a starter at a lower level team.
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