Will be interesting to see what they're offered when the deal comes up for renewal.
Time for the B1G to make a play for Notre Dame
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Will be interesting to see what they're offered when the deal comes up for renewal.
Really - this is exhibit one of the "Past performance is no guarantee of future returns" College Football edition.
Or the "This ain't your grandfather's college football" corollary. Stuff changes- it really does.
Now, if we could sell tickets and merch like they do there'd be no stopping us.
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Lousy home games this year. USC, Stanford, Navy aren’t good…UNC didn’t live up to billing.
I don’t know about NFL but for college which is ND obviously I like NBC the least out of all of them in terms of broadcasters and production. Fox, CBS, ESPN/ABC are all better imo.
ND/FSU game which was a home game for FSU did draw 7M which was one of the higher rated games of the season.
I also wonder if it is the gradual thinning of the "subway alumni".
Young people didn't grow up with one team on TV anymore. The cultural attachment isn't there.
1) We’ll see if that stands. Only been a few months, playing legal. Doubt they don’t enter sooner
2) Secondly, their situation is a few years versus 15 years. The legal fees to get out $50-$100m may not be worth the wait for TX/OK
Time will tell, but any media lawyer will tell you the GOR is not as iron-clad as the conferences want you to believe. Is it enough of a hindrance to work though? Yes, you’re right. I just don’t think ND’s contract is the same as the rest of the ACC
Get ND and Pitt for Big 10 East and move 2 Michigan teams to West to level out the 2 Divisions.
ND is contractually committed to the ACC if they choose to give up their independence.
Pitt is bound to the ACC through its GOR. I know people like to say that the GOR doesn't matter. The SEC, OK, and TX apparently feel differently. That marriage is explicitly not occuring until the divorce (GOR expiration) is final.
Besides, ain't no way on God's green earth that PSU is letting Pitt into the B1G.
but they keep all their bowl money.. and surely they get some money from the ACC for other sports and TV rights there.. NBC is paying for the 77 or so ND home football games. The ACC must pay them something, in essence, to be visitors at ACC stadiums where the ACC TV deal would make money.
Some info here.. Why ND will never be a full time ACC member..
Baylor is the rare school that can look at the scandals in Central PA, Larry Nasser, and the tOSU wrestling room and actually truthfully say it's had multiple, worse, more disgraceful incidents. They had a murder coverup! Do not want.
If they're going to add anyone add UVA and UNC and call it.
I have to think...for the first times in 125hrs...ND may be foced to join a conference within a decade
The SEC is playing for keeps and looking to become the stand ALONE conference..then everyone else. A 12 team playoff will make them more poweful. Get more teams in and kick the snot out of the ACC/Pad12 teams on a way to an all SEC Final 4
...ND is starting to lose the benefit of the doubt game they've enjoyed the last 20yrs....then getting their asses kicked on national TV.
They couldn't handle the SEC. The ACC is sooooo weak. ND may need to swallow their pride and join the B10.
B10 should poach the PAC12 of USC Standford and Oregon with ND...and let the rest of them mold into the B12.
We're going to football and Basketball Super Conferences people...while the other sports play regional
That is where we're going.
The SEC is playing for keeps and looking to become the stand ALONE conference..then everyone else. A 12 team playoff will make them more poweful. Get more teams in and kick the snot out of the ACC/Pad12 teams on a way to an all SEC Final 4
...ND is starting to lose the benefit of the doubt game they've enjoyed the last 20yrs....then getting their asses kicked on national TV.
They couldn't handle the SEC. The ACC is sooooo weak. ND may need to swallow their pride and join the B10.
B10 should poach the PAC12 of USC Standford and Oregon with ND...and let the rest of them mold into the B12.
We're going to football and Basketball Super Conferences people...while the other sports play regional
That is where we're going.
They are tied at the hip with the ACC until 2036. ND can’t join any conference unless it’s the ACC. After 2036 they are free to join any conference they want
ND is the only reason I prefer the playoffs only expand to 8 instead of 12. They are almost always overrated and will get a free pass with a 12 team playoff. They need to play a championship game to be considered.
I hope I'm alive in 2036 to find out about this mystery. Lol.
In 2019 ND football was in fifth most profitable. They aren't hurting too much
The top-10 schools over theprior three years in average annual profits were:
1. Texas A&M
2. Texas
3. Michigan
4. Oklahoma
5. Notre Dame
6. Ohio State
7. Georgia
8. LSU
9. Florida
10. Auburn
fightingirishwire.usatoday.com
The top-10 schools over theprior three years in average annual profits were:
1. Texas A&M
2. Texas
3. Michigan
4. Oklahoma
5. Notre Dame
6. Ohio State
7. Georgia
8. LSU
9. Florida
10. Auburn
Notre Dame the fifth-most profitable program over last three years, per Forbes
Notre Dame has one of the biggest fanbases in the country (if not the biggest) and is one the nation’s premier college football programs. Now, thanks to Forbes, we have some numbers to back those c…
fightingirishwire.usatoday.com
Umm that is a 2 year old article based on data from 2016-2018. IrrelevantIn 2019 ND football was in fifth most profitable. They aren't hurting too much
The top-10 schools over theprior three years in average annual profits were:
1. Texas A&M
2. Texas
3. Michigan
4. Oklahoma
5. Notre Dame
6. Ohio State
7. Georgia
8. LSU
9. Florida
10. Auburn
Notre Dame the fifth-most profitable program over last three years, per Forbes
Notre Dame has one of the biggest fanbases in the country (if not the biggest) and is one the nation’s premier college football programs. Now, thanks to Forbes, we have some numbers to back those c…
Not irrelevant at all
You think ND dropped to 25th or something in 2 years?
A team like ND makes more money than just TV
They are automatically the team everybody wants to see when its on their schedule.
They also have a beneficial cost situation
Lots of teams have issues. Texas and Michigan haven't exactly been on fire the last decade but they are still among top earners - benefits of being a popular legacy team
In another breakdown they include Rutgers. ND is #4 in that list from Ed Dept. It would take decades of good play for RU to get near ND status. It would take years of garbage play for ND to get down to the floor
#64 Rutgers $26.7 million (-2)
RU is one of 3 football programs in the data that appears to have cooked its books, presumably in order to not register a deficit. The Scarlet Knights expenses and revenue are listed as identical totals – $26,698,913. Regardless, Rutgers football was clearly the poorest program in the Big Ten.
#4 Notre Dame $115.5 million (+2)
This is where a caveat in accounting might skew the figures for the Irish relative to others (except for Texas). That’s because those two are the only ones in college football with their own separate TV deals, independent of a conference. Of course ND isn’t in one. And it’s had a rolling contract with NBC for almost 3 decades. Because the annual $15M from that deal isn’t shared with any league, it’s not clear whether the payout is included in this revenue figure. We do know, UND football cleared $65.3M after expenses.
Notre Dame the fifth-most profitable program over last three years, per Forbes
Notre Dame has one of the biggest fanbases in the country (if not the biggest) and is one the nation’s premier college football programs. Now, thanks to Forbes, we have some numbers to back those c…
fightingirishwire.usatoday.com
Obviously a Domer fan. The agreement with the ACC is that it is shared. The ratings are in the toilet in a good season. You are looking at old news.Lots of teams have issues. Texas and Michigan haven't exactly been on fire the last decade but they are still among top earners - benefits of being a popular legacy team
In another breakdown they include Rutgers. ND is #4 in that list from Ed Dept. It would take decades of good play for RU to get near ND status. It would take years of garbage play for ND to get down to the floor
#64 Rutgers $26.7 million (-2)
RU is one of 3 football programs in the data that appears to have cooked its books, presumably in order to not register a deficit. The Scarlet Knights expenses and revenue are listed as identical totals – $26,698,913. Regardless, Rutgers football was clearly the poorest program in the Big Ten.
#4 Notre Dame $115.5 million (+2)
This is where a caveat in accounting might skew the figures for the Irish relative to others (except for Texas). That’s because those two are the only ones in college football with their own separate TV deals, independent of a conference. Of course ND isn’t in one. And it’s had a rolling contract with NBC for almost 3 decades. Because the annual $15M from that deal isn’t shared with any league, it’s not clear whether the payout is included in this revenue figure. We do know, UND football cleared $65.3M after expenses.
Notre Dame the fifth-most profitable program over last three years, per Forbes
Notre Dame has one of the biggest fanbases in the country (if not the biggest) and is one the nation’s premier college football programs. Now, thanks to Forbes, we have some numbers to back those c…
