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Time out at the end?

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I have never criticized coach, but with all the youth, I was calling for a time out to set up a play...thoughts?
 
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I started to say the same thing, but we got multiple good looks there, and NOT calling a timeout is a solid strategy because it doesn't allow the defense to rest and set up either. Geo came down the court and PSU's defense was in disarray. I'm sure Pike saw that and decided against calling the timeout there. Good decision IMHO.
 
I have never criticized coach, but with all the youth, I was calling for a time out to set up a play...thoughts?

Totally fine with letting them play. It’s not like we didn’t have chances at the end. Plenty of opportunities to win and players didn’t make them

We call time out..run a play and miss the shot..coach gets asked why he’d call time out there and not let momentum continue.

We win..no criticism.
 
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I agree with this, but I guess hindsight with Miles not dunking it, it made me second guess it

I started to say the same thing, but we got multiple good looks there, and NOT calling a timeout is a solid strategy because it doesn't allow the defense to rest and set up either. Geo came down the court and PSU's defense was in disarray. I'm sure Pike saw that and decided against calling the timeout there. Good decision IMHO.
 
What would a timeout have given us, we would have ran a play where the ball started inside the basket? We had not 1 but 3 shots at an easy layup, and a beautiful 3, and just couldn’t get anything to drop
 
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I agree with what people are saying...but LIVE watching the game I was yelling to call time out. Thats the ONLY reason I ask the question...not calling out coach. just curious if anyone else had the same thought or not. I do agree we had multiple opps at a win there.
 
What is strange with those looks at the end the shots weren’t even close to going in and barely touched rim. It’s inexperience in that situation for players other than Geo.
 
I have mixed emotions about this. I think Pike should have taken a TO. But I understand why he didn't. We had tremendous momentum going in. In fact Myles had an open dunk if he had just taken it. I think we had 4 chances and didn't make it happen. I think the decision to not call a TO is understandable. Bottom line: Myles should NOT have thrown the ball out to the perimeter, but instead dunked the damn ball. No one was covering him and we would have won the game, because PSU didn't have a TO.
 
PSU was on their heals — you ride the helter skelter into several good looks at the end. A timeout gives PSU time to set up and also puts more pressure on whoever has to take the last shot for us. I was fine with no timeout there.
 
I have never criticized coach, but with all the youth, I was calling for a time out to set up a play...thoughts?

Good move by not calling timeout. Every last play timeout we run is Baker dribbling at the top of the key while everyone stands around and he hoists one up at the buzzer. He was 0 for 10 and that’s the only play we run in that spot. No thanks.
 
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The game was loss because Rutgers had a terrible first half and never was able to catch up in the second half.Its really hard to win when Baker doesn't score a point,the 3 point shooting was abysmal and the missed layups make fans shake their heads in dismay.Bottom line Rutgers played hard but simply shot bricks most of the game which gave Penn State enough of a margin to squeak out a one point win.Another winnable game that resulted in a heart breaking loss.
 
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I didn't have a problem with Pike not calling a timeout. It would have given PSU an opportunity to set up their defense which had been tough all game ,especially in the first half.
 
Didn’t mind then no TO. WE HAD 3 LOOKS. Literally two bunny layups one bricked on the rim. Man that hurt.
 
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I wanted a time out because I wanted something quick to the basket hard ...PSU was gassed and we could get a foul call..if we missed ...we foul and PSU is one and one ...

We could have had two chances

Having said that ...I don’t have a problem with pike playing the momentum ....we got the looks and just didn’t finish
 
I have never criticized coach, but with all the youth, I was calling for a time out to set up a play...thoughts?
I don't know about a TO but down one you have to call a play with someone going to the basket. You have a chance to at least get fouled and go to the line needing only one to tie. That's the way you play that situation. You don't call for a step back 25 footer, especially for a kid who couldn't smell the basket all night. But then again, when you have a mobile 6'11" kid you also don't let the opposition throw a length of the court pass to beat you. Poor decisions by the staff in the last 20 seconds of both games IMO.
 
Geo took 3 threes in the last 2 minutes, one after a Pike timeout where Myles got the rebound for a layup to cut it to 1 but the blocked one really wasnt necessary..go inside...the last one, he was wide open albeit not his typical step back
 
So you're fine with a step back 20-25 footer from a kid who hasn't scored all game when you're only down one? Most all coaches want someone driving to the basket in that situation.

No issue whatsoever. Geo's big shot that went in was a bad shot?
 
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Watching Johnson fumble the pass and them immediately kick it out just kills me. Then Jerper passed on the open 3. Neither guy wanted the shot.

McConnells's play was a thing of beauty. Johnson has to finish that. Damn freshmen!!!!! They taken and they given away
 
I don't know about a TO but down one you have to call a play with someone going to the basket. You have a chance to at least get fouled and go to the line needing only one to tie. That's the way you play that situation. You don't call for a step back 25 footer, especially for a kid who couldn't smell the basket all night. But then again, when you have a mobile 6'11" kid you also don't let the opposition throw a length of the court pass to beat you. Poor decisions by the staff in the last 20 seconds of both games IMO.
We had multiple attempts including potential layups/dunks in the last sequence if Myles had been played stronger. I'd take that over letting Penn State set up their defense. Dead wrong on the Iowa game - listen to Pikiell on Jerry Recco's podcast if you aren't convinced that doubling Bohannon was the right call there.
 
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Not calling a TO was clearly the right call. Multiple really good looks. Could have won it 4 freaking times in that possession. You want 5 good chances?

PSU was also on the ropes. They have really good half court defense that could have been set up and a chance for a breather.

Frustratingggg...
 
I have never criticized coach, but with all the youth, I was calling for a time out to set up a play...thoughts?
They got multiple shots within 5 feet of the basket. How is a time out going to do better? Calling a time out does allow you to call a play but it also allows the defense to set up. Some coaches prefer that. Other choose to play without a time out giving them the advantage of catching the defense in transition, more open looks, etc. Calling a time out is the right choice when it works. Not calling a time out is the right choice when it works. Given the chances we had no issue with not calling a time out last night.
 
well like I said, at that moment I was saying to the TV, "time out" lol... so just wanted some people's thoughts, not saying it would have been better. sometimes you see timeouts in that situation, other times not, obviously last night.

They got multiple shots within 5 feet of the basket. How is a time out going to do better? Calling a time out does allow you to call a play but it also allows the defense to set up. Some coaches prefer that. Other choose to play without a time out giving them the advantage of catching the defense in transition, more open looks, etc. Calling a time out is the right choice when it works. Not calling a time out is the right choice when it works. Given the chances we had no issue with not calling a time out last night.
 
I would have called timeout. We’re in the double bonus. Call a play to isolate EO and take your chances on him getting fouled or a hoop.
Then again I’m a basketball genius after coaching a 6th grade boys team to a CYO championship. Ha!
 
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