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to me its 4 solid choices and you will be shocked who I feel RU should consider

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Its this simple. RU needs a coach who is also a master recruiter and salesperson! RU needs a pied piper who will get players to attend and fans to come out to games. It needs a guy who understands bigtime basketball and not a trainee. It needs:

Fran F to leave TV and return to coaching. His international contacts would not hurt either

Seth Greenberg to leave the broadcast booth and get back into what he loves and adores. A winner who is not scared to take legal chances or go in from the ally to recruit

Kevin Boyle would be outstanding because of connections, and love of NJ. He has coached high level players and against high level players. Outstanding coach with outstanding contacts.

The coach from GW who seems like a winner. The first 3 are guaranteed to win and compete on the BIG level which is no joke and tougher than the Big East!
 
During his time at Virginia Tech, Greenberg got his team to the NCAA Tournament exactly one time.

Pretty good recruiter tho
 
Fraschilla - No one is knocking on Fran's door for a reason. And, yeah, hiring a guy who dropped his pants in the locker room will go over will here at Bannon/Rice U.

Greenberg - Almost 60 year old former coach with 1 NCAA berth in his last 17 years of coaching. He'd fit right in at Rutgers.

Boyle - HIGH SCHOOL coach who couldn't even follow the rules in HIGH SCHOOL. Great fit. Did I mention he's a HIGH SCHOOL coach?

Lonergan - a real coach, how'd he get on this list?
 
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Fraschilla and Greenberg are dinosaurs who are now out of coaching. No thanks.

The final two have merit.
 
Of that group I take only Boyle and GW coach. Can someone explain to me why Hurley is considered such a better coach than Boyle?? Seems he may have some Gonzalez in him but is a good coach with connections. To me Boyle and Hurley on same level, Boyle better recruiter while hurley has dads help........ Give Boyle a shot
 
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TMCB said:
Of that group I take only Boyle and GW coach. Can someone explain to me why Hurley is considered such a better coach than Boyle?? Seems he may have some Gonzalez in him but is a good coach with connections. To me Boyle and Hurley on same level, Boyle better recruiter while hurley has dads help........ Give Boyle a shot
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Hurley has been a NCAA head coach for six years, Boyle has never coached in college.
 
TMCB said:
Of that group I take only Boyle and GW coach. Can someone explain to me why Hurley is considered such a better coach than Boyle?? Seems he may have some Gonzalez in him but is a good coach with connections. To me Boyle and Hurley on same level, Boyle better recruiter while hurley has dads help........ Give Boyle a shot
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Um, because Hurley was a college assistant and a college head coach. Boyle is a freakin' high school coach. If he wants to be a college coach, then try to land a job at a Wagner or and FDU or at least work as an assistant somewhere. He also got his team banned from ToC in NJ for not following the rules which is pretty unique.
 
Here is a question: If the following schools were looking for a coach: Maryland, Uconn, Temple, Villanova, Seton Hall, would any of these guys get a sniff?
 
Longergan or bust.

I saw GW's campus and it's beautiful, honestly don't know if I'd want to leave if it were me. I guess having your salary doubled or tripled doesn't hurt
 
ColonelRutgers said:
Um, because Hurley was a college assistant and a college head coach. Boyle is a freakin' high school coach. If he wants to be a college coach, then try to land a job at a Wagner or and FDU or at least work as an assistant somewhere. He also got his team banned from ToC in NJ for not following the rules which is pretty unique.
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Wagner and FDU can't afford him. Why would he go there?
 
Rokodesh said:
Longergan or bust.

I saw GW's campus and it's beautiful, honestly don't know if I'd want to leave if it were me. I guess having your salary doubled or tripled doesn't hurt
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They had about 800 people at their game last night. He'd go from making 500k to 1.5 million to start at least

But you best find out if he will come here. Don't waste time if he doesn't want the job (like Hurley)
 
Yes all would be considered by Temple, SHU prior to the success this year and others. Maryland and UConn, and Kentucky, and Louisville, and Indiana and Michigan State, , and others are winners with strong programs. They do not need such coaches. Fran was strongly considered for the RU job in the past but could not get the facility upgrade commitment he wanted so he dropped out. Honestly RU needs a guy who can get down in the trenches to get after it and get it done. You do not need that guy who rarely gets a tad dirty from working. Boyles present HS team could most likely beat RU and other College teams. I know his last years team could have. RU needs to be energized in so many ways. As far as age its just a number and winning is about energy, attitude, desire, work ethic and relating to players. RU needs the right coach but more important they need to hire an Architect to redesign the RAC and a company to start work soon. You guys are fighting the athletic war with water guns as others have real machine guns and grenades. But again with the right person RU becomes a true power team sooner than later, something that would be soooooooo nice!
 
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ColonelRutgers said:
Fraschilla - No one is knocking on Fran's door for a reason. And, yeah, hiring a guy who dropped his pants in the locker room will go over will here at Bannon/Rice U.

Greenberg - Almost 60 year old former coach with 1 NCAA berth in his last 17 years of coaching. He'd fit right in at Rutgers.

Boyle - HIGH SCHOOL coach who couldn't even follow the rules in HIGH SCHOOL. Great fit. Did I mention he's a HIGH SCHOOL coach?

Lonergan - a real coach, how'd he get on this list?
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Exactly. Lonergan is the only choice out of these.
 
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other than lonergan, that's a terrible list--hs coach, guy with drinking problem history, a failed coach who by the way has no respect for RU or the big
 
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Ridiculous to even consider a high school coach like Boyle . Lonergan is the only serious name
 
LFBall said:
Yes all would be considered by Temple, SHU prior to the success this year and others. Maryland and UConn, and Kentucky, and Louisville, and Indiana and Michigan State, , and others are winners with strong programs. They do not need such coaches. Fran was strongly considered for the RU job in the past but could not get the facility upgrade commitment he wanted so he dropped out. Honestly RU needs a guy who can get down in the trenches to get after it and get it done. You do not need that guy who rarely gets a tad dirty from working. Boyles present HS team could most likely beat RU and other College teams. I know his last years team could have. RU needs to be energized in so many ways. As far as age its just a number and winning is about energy, attitude, desire, work ethic and relating to players. RU needs the right coach but more important they need to hire an Architect to redesign the RAC and a company to start work soon. You guys are fighting the athletic war with water guns as others have real machine guns and grenades. But again with the right person RU becomes a true power team sooner than later, something that would be soooooooo nice!
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Which schools are currently looking at these guys?
 
Considering a HS coach no matter how successful he is in the HS RANKS ranks is a sign of desperation because even mid major quality candidates are leery of taking the RU MBB HC position.
Before that happens, Hobbs should look into acquiring a top assistant from a Major power and not one that just looks good this season.
Two old hands that are out of coaching now might help, but they are only bridges towards the final goal and should be considered as a last resort because their ceilings will show in a couple of years and RU will be looking for a HC again before their contact is up or soon afterwords

This search wioth the constant references to a HS HC being one of the best choices reminds me of years ago when the coach of a Jersey City HS was constantly mentioned as a great canidate to replace Freddie Hill Jr.
It was a bad idea then as it is now with a transplanted NJ HS HC leading a Florida HS program being mentioned as a great replacement for Eddie.

Sorry LF, it sounds like you think the RU MBB program is so bad that they have to go after the pick of the HS coaching ranks litter , but in reality they are considered the bottom dwellers of who a normal major conference college MBB program would consider because of their lack
of experience coaching college ball.

I think if Hobbs can show decent candidates the support is on the way, the ex HCs out of the game for some time and the never been in the college game candidates have no place in Hobbs coaching search.
Also assistants from recently successful programs without HCing experience are just as big as a gamble as the successful HS HC being mentioned and they shouldn't be in the conversation either.

That's my opinion and even though I respect LF , I'll go by my opinion even if I'm not as knowledgeable as LF Ball .
 
Agree we need the pied piper and recruiter.....just not the tv names mentioned.
 
Boyle as top assistant works for me. He has worked with and recruitedmore talent than Rutgers has had in yrs. Biyle is closer to the college game and hs recruiting than EJ was and we hired him. How did that work out?
 
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Every name i have seen suggested has cons, risks, and is far from a sure thing. You can probably count on 1 or 2 hands the amount of people that can turn us around with almost certainity.
 
ru-baby said:
Agree we need the pied piper and recruiter.....just not the tv names mentioned.
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This is a falsehood yes something we want but not NEED

Greene Rice FIG said:
Every name i have seen suggested has cons, risks, and is far from a sure thing. You can probably count on 1 or 2 hands the amount of people that can turn us around with almost certainity.
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Weigh these pros and cons and this coach beats all above named candidates.
HC 11 years in college with a winning record 7 out of 11 years
Been to Post season play 6 out of 11 years. been to NCAA the last 3 years in a row!
R U impress yet. He is making 18% of what fast Eddie made (that will change tomorrow or Saturday)
here is his record
2005–06 Stony Brook 4–24 2–14 9th
2006–07 Stony Brook 9–20 4–12 9th
2007–08 Stony Brook 7–23 3–13 8th
2008–09 Stony Brook 16–14 8–8 5th
2009–10 Stony Brook 22–10 13–3 1st NIT 1st Round
2010–11 Stony Brook 15–17 8–8 5th
2011–12 Stony Brook 22–10 14–2 1st NIT 1st Round
2012–13 Stony Brook 25–8 14–2 1st NIT 2nd Round
2013–14 Stony Brook 23–11 13–3 2nd CBI 1st Round
2014–15 Stony Brook 23–12 12–4 T–2nd CBI 1st Round
2015–16 Stony Brook 24–6 14–2 1st
By the way it has come out here in Kentucky that their opponent (SB) tonight will lose their coach to Rutgers after they lose to Kentucky.
 
Stuck at Stony Brook for 11 years...too long at one place. it took too long to get it done at Stony Brook. What does he know about getting elite talent and then managing them.

His job at Rutgers would be totally different than Stony Brook and I'd think it would be tough to change mindset. If he didn't adapt he'd have no chance.
 
Greene Rice FIG said:
Stuck at Stony Brook for 11 years...too long at one place. it took too long to get it done at Stony Brook. What does he know about getting elite talent and then managing them.

His job at Rutgers would be totally different than Stony Brook and I'd think it would be tough to change mindset. If he didn't adapt he'd have no chance.
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Bo Ryan was at a division III school for 15 years and then two years at Wisconsin-Milwaukee, he was able to handle the move to the B1G.
 
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Bo Ryan was at a division III school for 15 years and then two years at Wisconsin-Milwaukee, he was able to handle the move to the B1G.
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Bo Ryan won championships. He was able to handle the move to the B1G because he knew how to develop players and had a system.
 
LF,
Good to hear from you. I can only assume that Fran, Kevin and Seth would set you up with some cozy spot on their staff (not that far fetched). Otherwise, nobody is looking to hire any of those guys for any DI spot.
Lonergan would be good. Sendak it the only sitting on a shelf that I'd pick.
 
Pikiell would be a disaster. I don't think Lonergan would work out either. Sendek would restore respectability and credibility but probably not get Rutgers to the NCAAs. Boyle? He'd either be a home run or a colossal failure. Do we go for the home run or the safe bet? My money is on Sendek.
 
RobertG said:
Here is a question: If the following schools were looking for a coach: Maryland, Uconn, Temple, Villanova, Seton Hall, would any of these guys get a sniff?
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come on Robert...that is simply not a fair comparison. maybe 10 years from now. but other than SHU, these schools are all considered top 25 locks, with MD, Yukon and Nova top 10 programs
 
Geez, if you're stepping into Mr. Peabody' wayback machine, I'd take good ol' Pete Gillen before Franny or Seth. Boyle would be a disaster of Jordanesque proportions.
 
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