Urb Meyer told Ash to take RU job over Syracuse

[Blitz Pakage]

All good bro. I respect you. Im retired from this thread. Enjoy the Cuse bashing. Until next time.

Money, I'm not a Cuse basher and respect your football knowledge. You said you coach High School football, so did I and can respect you for that! But let's get back to why this thread was originally started. It's why Urban told Ash to pick RU over Cuse. You basically confirmed the reason in one of your posts that said "Cuse does not put enough emphasis or focus into building a strong Football program" Basketball, Soccer and Lacrosse are more important. so don't you think that deters players and some coaches from coming to Cuse! The football landscape has changed dramatically over the last 20 years and RU has landed a great opportunity. Players and Coaches recognize this and realize RU is the better choice for them right now if they want to compete at a higher level! That should sum it up.

 

[JoeRU0304]

Money, I'm not a Cuse basher and respect your football knowledge. You said you coach High School football, so did I and can respect you for that! But let's get back to why this thread was originally started. It's why Urban told Ash to pick RU over Cuse. You basically confirmed the reason in one of your posts that said "Cuse does not put enough emphasis or focus into building a strong Football program" Basketball, Soccer and Lacrosse are more important. so don't you think that deters players and some coaches from coming to Cuse! The football landscape has changed dramatically over the last 20 years and RU has landed a great opportunity. Players and Coaches recognize this and realize RU is the better choice for them right now if they want to compete at a higher level! That should sum it up.

Great points IMO. Also, I know cuse has done some recent work with facilities, but for all the guff we give ourselves (deserved and undeserved) about our facilities, I would NOT trade places with cuse for a nanosecond. While their dome offers some distinct advantages, it's also very, very difficult to upgrade/ expand...and there's a reason they needed a dome in the first place.


Joe P.

 

[Blitz Pakage]

Great points IMO. Also, I know cuse has done some recent work with facilities, but for all the guff we give ourselves (deserved and undeserved) about our facilities, I would NOT trade places with cuse for a nanosecond. While their dome offers some distinct advantages, it's also very, very difficult to upgrade/ expand...and there's a reason they needed a dome in the first place.


Joe P.

Thanks Joe! I know it's hard to see for some non RU fans that things have changed here. The recent overhaul of our athletic dept. is already miles ahead of where we were last year! A new commitment has been made to fully competing in the BIG at a high level. The monies are coming and the staff is in place. Yeah we need several years yet to take on the Big Boys, but it's all set in place and we really have no excuse anymore to fail in the BIG!

 

[pawildcat]

Syracuse will never amount to much until they get out of that sorry dome and play at an actual football field.

 

[orange830]

I must have missed all of the success that Rutgers has had in football over the year, Meyer wanted Ash to go to Rutgers , because he knows its an easy win for him.

 

[NickyNewark51]

I must have missed all of the success that Rutgers has had in football over the year, Meyer wanted Ash to go to Rutgers , because he knows its an easy win for him.

Wow how witty....you got to be another envious Cuse loser...fallin behind stings..huh? Have a little class and own it!!

 

[cicero grimes]

Thats fine but no one wanted Ash in Syracuse. Unproven HC and defensive guy. You don't know if his formula works. It might take 3 years before you guys find out. If he's bad, you start all over again. If he's good someone else will take him. Im fine with SU football not being a destination job. We are too good in other sports to worry about football so much. Have fun putting all your athletic hopes into football. Your best senior dominate team will get you to 8-4 at best.

Which will most likely be 7 more wins than SU. Babers will find out he is in over his head.

 

[ru8081]

I must have missed all of the success that Rutgers has had in football over the year, Meyer wanted Ash to go to Rutgers , because he knows its an easy win for him.

That's right we are tied in National Championships at 1. Yes that "1" national championship was more recent (1959). But if you think 1959 was recent, then the Rutgers Final Four team must have been just yesterday (1976).

 

[orange830]

Wow how witty....you got to be another envious Cuse loser...fallin behind stings..huh? Have a little class and own it!!

I am envious of programs that win like Alabama and Clemson, not doormat programs like Rutgers.

 

[NickyNewark51]

I am envious of programs that win like Alabama and Clemson, not doormat programs like Rutgers.

Then why are you here? Something's got you concerned? Alabama? If that's what you want to play by a different set of rules why follow legitimate student athletes here in the NE? Clemson? Opps WVU just scored again Clemson? Talking about doormats hows Cuse doing? Oh thats right they had to hire a new coach too!!! After HCCA begged off after being schooled and realizing better opportunities knocked!! Nice try though....try it here you'll like it...join the better FB program...something drew you here!!!After all you been lurking here for 7 yrs!!

 

[MADHAT1]

I am envious of programs that win like Alabama and Clemson, not doormat programs like Rutgers.

Don't expect you Fruit-flies to be envious of the Rutgers FB program.
I just know you have to look up it now, because RU FB is on the rise while the fruities have declined becoming a bottom-feeder type of program
Fruit football has turned rotten and the only future the Fruit-flies have to look forward to is : remembering the past glory that the Syracuse FB program once had and knowing that Fruit football will never come close to achieving that type of glory again.

 

[DJ Spanky]

I must have missed all of the success that Rutgers has had in football over the year, ...

It's totally understandable for some of our dimmer posters to miss that, so let me repost what GoodOl'Rutgers did a little earlier in the thread:

Syracuse' last ten games vs Rutgers..

2012/10/13 Syracuse 15 - Rutgers 23 L
2011/10/01 Syracuse 16 - Rutgers 19 L OT
2010/11/13 Syracuse 13 - Rutgers 10 W
2009/11/21 Syracuse 31 - Rutgers 13 W
2008/11/08 Syracuse 17 - Rutgers 35 L
2007/10/13 Syracuse 14 - Rutgers 38 L
2006/11/25 Syracuse 7 - Rutgers 38 L
2005/10/15 Syracuse 9 - Rutgers 31 L
2004/10/02 Syracuse 41 - Rutgers 31 W
2003/11/29 Syracuse 7 - Rutgers 24 L

 

[BoogieKnight]

I must have missed all of the success that Rutgers has had in football over the year, Meyer wanted Ash to go to Rutgers , because he knows its an easy win for him.

Right..because Meyer was shaking in his boots at the other prospective coaches we may have hired LOL! Apparently you are not aware that Urban takes a tremendous amount of pride in assistants from his "coaching tree" becoming successful head coaches themselves. It's part of his legacy. Now of course there is no guarantee that Ash or any other Meyer assistant WILL be successful as a HC, but contrary to what you believe, Meyer wants Ash to be successful and wasn't sending him to RU because he knows it will "be an easy win". That has to be the dumbest thing I've read on these internet boards in a long time and there's plenty of stupidity to go around over on the comments section at nj dot com.

I'm not a betting man, but I will wager that Urban is retired and working in a cushy TV gig before Ash leaves RU. Translation: by the time Ash has RU up and running at full steam (give or take the next 3 to 4 years or so) Urban will no longer be the coach of OSU. And there is a solid chance that Harbaugh will be back in the NFL for that matter.

 

[bone tomahawk]

Right..because Meyer was shaking in his boots at the other prospective coaches we may have hired LOL! Apparently you are not aware that Urban takes a tremendous amount of pride in assistants from his "coaching tree" becoming successful head coaches themselves. It's part of his legacy. Now of course there is no guarantee that Ash or any other Meyer assistant WILL be successful as a HC, but contrary to what you believe, Meyer wants Ash to be successful and wasn't sending him to RU because he knows it will "be an easy win". That has to be the dumbest thing I've read on these internet boards in a long time and there's plenty of stupidity to go around over on the comments section at nj dot com.

I'm not a betting man, but I will wager that Urban is retired and working in a cushy TV gig before Ash leaves RU. Translation: by the time Ash has RU up and running at full steam (give or take the next 3 to 4 years or so) Urban will no longer be the coach of OSU. And there is a solid chance that Harbaugh will be back in the NFL for that matter.

easy to see why you dont bet. just spout off about alot of future events that wont ever happen, then sit back and smile at how smart you are.

 

[BoogieKnight]

easy to see why you dont bet. just spout off about alot of future events that wont ever happen, then sit back and smile at how smart you are.

So...what are you disputing exactly? What you think Harbaugh is going to finish his coaching career at Michigan? That Urban is going to coach at OSU for another decade? Which one? I give JH 5 more years at Michigan tops and then he will go back and try and win his Super Bowl. Urban 3 years, maybe 4 years tops. But you are missing the point of my original post which was in response to some idiot claiming that Meyer was scared of whoever else RU may have brought in so he told Ash to go there.

 

[orange830]

Don't expect you Fruit-flies to be envious of the Rutgers FB program.
I just know you have to look up it now, because RU FB is on the rise while the fruities have declined becoming a bottom-feeder type of program
Fruit football has turned rotten and the only future the Fruit-flies have to look forward to is : remembering the past glory that the Syracuse FB program once had and knowing that Fruit football will never come close to achieving that type of glory again.

On the rise lol, what was your record last year?

 

[orange830]

Then why are you here? Something's got you concerned? Alabama? If that's what you want to play by a different set of rules why follow legitimate student athletes here in the NE? Clemson? Opps WVU just scored again Clemson? Talking about doormats hows Cuse doing? Oh thats right they had to hire a new coach too!!! After HCCA begged off after being schooled and realizing better opportunities knocked!! Nice try though....try it here you'll like it...join the better FB program...something drew you here!!!After all you been lurking here for 7 yrs!!

Because I am a Syracuse fan, and this thread is about Syracuse. Btw you mean the Clemson team that was in the title game last year, and has a top five team this year?

 

[orange830]

It's totally understandable for some of our dimmer posters to miss that, so let me repost what GoodOl'Rutgers did a little earlier in the thread:

Syracuse' last ten games vs Rutgers..

2012/10/13 Syracuse 15 - Rutgers 23 L
2011/10/01 Syracuse 16 - Rutgers 19 L OT
2010/11/13 Syracuse 13 - Rutgers 10 W
2009/11/21 Syracuse 31 - Rutgers 13 W
2008/11/08 Syracuse 17 - Rutgers 35 L
2007/10/13 Syracuse 14 - Rutgers 38 L
2006/11/25 Syracuse 7 - Rutgers 38 L
2005/10/15 Syracuse 9 - Rutgers 31 L
2004/10/02 Syracuse 41 - Rutgers 31 W
2003/11/29 Syracuse 7 - Rutgers 24 L

Good point, apparently college football was invented in 2003.

 

[MADHAT1]

Good point, apparently college football was invented in 2003.

For the Fruit it ended a long time ago.

 

[MADHAT1]

On the rise lol, what was your record last year?

Downward slide from that will be quickly rectified .
Syracuse's 4-8 last season is the type of record Fruit-Flies will be hoping for every year,
considering they had 4 winning seasons in the last 14 years
2002
Syracuse 4-8 2-5 T-6th
— —
2003 Syracuse 6-6 2-5 T-6th
— —
2004 Syracuse 0-6 (6 wins vacated by the NCAA) 4-2 T-1st L Champs Sports — —
2005 Syracuse 0-10 (1 win vacated by the NCAA) 0-7 8th
— —
2006 Syracuse 0-8 (4 wins vacated by the NCAA) 1-6 T-7th
— —
2007 Syracuse 2-10 1-6 8th
— —
2008 Syracuse 3-9 1-6 T-7th
— —
2009 Syracuse 4-8 1-6 T-7th
— —
2010 Syracuse 8-5 4-3 4th W Pinstripe — —
2011 Syracuse 5-7 1-6 T-7th
— —
2012 Syracuse 8-5 5-2 T-1st W Pinstripe — —
2013 Syracuse 7-6 4-4 3rd W Texas — —
2014 Syracuse 3-9 1-7 6th
— —
2015 Syracuse 4-8 2-6 5th
— —

 

[JoeRU0304]

Good point, apparently college football was invented in 2003.

...and apparently it stopped after 1998. Do you listen to music on your Walkman while logging onto the Internet using the 100 free hours from the new AOL 3.0 cd you got in the mail?

Joe P.

 

[MADHAT1]

Because I am a Syracuse fan, and this thread is about Syracuse. Btw you mean the Clemson team that was in the title game last year, and has a top five team this year?

Actually what Clemson does (" Clemson team that was in the title game last year") isn't something Syracuse will able to do . Clemson is one of the cream of the crop ACC FB programs Syracuse is just a bottom-feeder in that conference so any reference to Clemson doesn't mean Syracuse was being complemented, take that reference as an insult because the fruit are just plain rotten.

 

[DJ Spanky]

Good point, apparently college football was invented in 2003.

Um, sorry, but you're the rocket surgeon who mentioned missing our recent success. Don't worry, we understand your issues.

 

[orange830]

For the Fruit it ended a long time ago.

At least we had relevance.

 

[orange830]

...and apparently it stopped after 1998. Do you listen to music on your Walkman while logging onto the Internet using the 100 free hours from the new AOL 3.0 cd you got in the mail?

Joe P.

And you don't even have a walkman or aol, you are living in a cardboard box.

 

[BoogieKnight]

At least we had relevance.

So did Yale and Army. Things change.

 

[MADHAT1]

At least we had relevance.

Had is true and that's all you have to cling to now. Looking at the Fruit FB program today and considering how Fruit FB will be in the future: this is the only thing you can say now:

While for Rutgers fans all the signs say:

 

[JoeRU0304]

And you don't even have a walkman or aol, you are living in a cardboard box.

...I must have went to sleep and woke up in 5th grade. Dude, that was just terrible. The next time the teacher passes out the Troll Book Club order form, see if you can pick this up:

...and please, tell my mortgage company about your cardboard box theory; maybe they'll cut me a break.


Joe P.

 

[NickyNewark51]

Because I am a Syracuse fan, and this thread is about Syracuse. Btw you mean the Clemson team that was in the title game last year, and has a top five team this year?

You'd never have guessed!!! So you're here for 7 plus years to defend this particular post? OK...we buy that..

 

[money3189]

Money, I'm not a Cuse basher and respect your football knowledge. You said you coach High School football, so did I and can respect you for that! But let's get back to why this thread was originally started. It's why Urban told Ash to pick RU over Cuse. You basically confirmed the reason in one of your posts that said "Cuse does not put enough emphasis or focus into building a strong Football program" Basketball, Soccer and Lacrosse are more important. so don't you think that deters players and some coaches from coming to Cuse! The football landscape has changed dramatically over the last 20 years and RU has landed a great opportunity. Players and Coaches recognize this and realize RU is the better choice for them right now if they want to compete at a higher level! That should sum it up.

You are absolutely right. Very classy response. I agree Rutgers is more attractive right now.

 

[money3189]

Great points IMO. Also, I know cuse has done some recent work with facilities, but for all the guff we give ourselves (deserved and undeserved) about our facilities, I would NOT trade places with cuse for a nanosecond. While their dome offers some distinct advantages, it's also very, very difficult to upgrade/ expand...and there's a reason they needed a dome in the first place.


Joe P.

The structure of the Dome is old and needed to be updated for years. I give an edge to Rutgers when it comes to the stadium. Other than that, Syracuse has the edge from what I've seen. The Dome will be revamped in 2 years. It will look similar to Minnesota's dome.

 

[JoeRU0304]

The structure of the Dome is old and needed to be updated for years. I give an edge to Rutgers when it comes to the stadium. Other than that, Syracuse has the edge from what I've seen. The Dome will be revamped in 2 years. It will look similar to Minnesota's dome.

I saw that cuse was currently in the process of doing that and are weighing different designs/ options, etc. I also saw they were trying to get out of the awful agreement with Carrier but it's been a no-go so far.


Joe P.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Syrapuke is the worst football program in the Eastern Time Zone.
They also play in the decrepit Carrier Clinic Bubble.
End of story.

 

[APKnight]

Bump. This is for Knight Shift. Urban’s plan worked. Hey, maybe Ash is on two payrolls.

 

[Abro1975]

I think we can now all agree that the abilities and recruiting talents of the Head Coach outweighs everything else. It outweighs facilities, recruiting geography, fan support, administration support, media support, perception, donors , EVERYTHING. Even the Alabama’s and Notre Dames have made hiring mistakes. But they can quickly pivot and correct the mistake.