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Was talking to someone in Rutgers tickets sales

If I were to guess, it would be that a good chunk of that is for the assistant coaches and support staff that is required to be a Power 5 Football Team.

It's not for the assistant coaches. There is a separate expense for coaching salaries and there's nothing to indicate that that expense does not include assistants.
 
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I love Rutgers Football and I've been to at least 1 game past few years. Since graduation at Rutgers I've been busy working and usually its during game times. I wanted to purchase season tickets next year but I'm enrolling into the Rutgers Newark A.B.S.N program and I dont see myself having a whole lot of free time if any. However once I'm done I plan on getting those season tickets.
 
We have some actual financial data now on this. Turns out our estimates of total revenue were probably very close and the losses appear to be almost dead on.

Actual figures, which include all ticket sales (not just football) are:

Ticket sales
FY2018 [2017 football season]: $10,764,623

FY2017 [2016 football season]: $12,824,201

FY2016 [2015 football season]: $13,757,852

https://expo.nj.com/sports/g66l-201...1718-a-look-at-the-100m-athletics-budget.html

More data on NJ.com today:
https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/...ason-in-depth-look-at-a-record-shortfall.html
"In 2017, Rutgers average attendance was announced at 39,749 fans per game. But an NJ Advance Media review of how many fans actually entered the HighPoint.com Stadium gates for the seven home games showed that number to be considerably higher than the actual attendance."

Rutgers sold 28,478 season tickets in 2016 and 31,168 season tickets in 2015.
Here’s how much money Rutgers produced in football ticket-sales revenue during that span:
2015: $11,824,520
2016: $11,129,587
2017: $8,387,569"

"Rutgers’ ticket sales have fallen to American Athletic Conference levels. In 2013 — Rutgers’ first and only season in the American — Rutgers produced $8.7 million in ticket sales.
That total soared to $11.6 million in its first Big Ten campaign in 2014 and to a record $11.8 million in 2015.
The Rutgers football team’s drop to roughly $8.4 million is why the athletic program’s overall ticket-sales total decreased 16.1 percent to $10.76 million in FY2018 after a $12.8 million tally in FY2017."

^^There seems to be something wrong with Sarge's numbers as they internally conflict. If he is correct, that is a $3.5 M revenue drop from 2015 to 2017.

That is in line with my numbers below of a loss of $3.5-4 Million in football ticket revenue since 2015. That is nearly twice Ash's salary.
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My original post in this thread:
In 2015, Rutgers sold 31,168 season tickets.
In 2016, Rutgers sold 28,478 season ticket. -8.6%
In 2017, Rutgers sold 23,812 season tickets. -16.4%
In 2018, Rutgers sold 22,337 season tickets. -6.2% (-28.3% from 2015)
2019 Projection- sell 16,752 season tickets. -25% (-46.3% from 2015)

Calculation:
2015: 31,168 * $400 = $12,467,200
2016: 28,478 * $400 = $11,391,200 (loss of $1.08 million)
2017: 23,812 * $400 = $9,524,800 (loss of $2.94 million from baseline 2015 number; cumulative loss of $4.02 million)
2018: 22,337 * $400 = $8,934,800 (loss of $3.66 million from baseline 2015; cumulative loss of $7.68 million)
2019: projected 16,752 * $400 = $6,700,800 (loss of $5.77 million from baseline 2015; cumulative loss of $13.45 million)
 
More data on NJ.com today:
https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/...ason-in-depth-look-at-a-record-shortfall.html
"In 2017, Rutgers average attendance was announced at 39,749 fans per game. But an NJ Advance Media review of how many fans actually entered the HighPoint.com Stadium gates for the seven home games showed that number to be considerably higher than the actual attendance."

Rutgers sold 28,478 season tickets in 2016 and 31,168 season tickets in 2015.
Here’s how much money Rutgers produced in football ticket-sales revenue during that span:
2015: $11,824,520
2016: $11,129,587
2017: $8,387,569"

"Rutgers’ ticket sales have fallen to American Athletic Conference levels. In 2013 — Rutgers’ first and only season in the American — Rutgers produced $8.7 million in ticket sales.
That total soared to $11.6 million in its first Big Ten campaign in 2014 and to a record $11.8 million in 2015.
The Rutgers football team’s drop to roughly $8.4 million is why the athletic program’s overall ticket-sales total decreased 16.1 percent to $10.76 million in FY2018 after a $12.8 million tally in FY2017."

^^There seems to be something wrong with Sarge's numbers as they internally conflict. If he is correct, that is a $3.5 M revenue drop from 2015 to 2017.

That is in line with my numbers below of a loss of $3.5-4 Million in football ticket revenue since 2015. That is nearly twice Ash's salary.
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My original post in this thread:
In 2015, Rutgers sold 31,168 season tickets.
In 2016, Rutgers sold 28,478 season ticket. -8.6%
In 2017, Rutgers sold 23,812 season tickets. -16.4%
In 2018, Rutgers sold 22,337 season tickets. -6.2% (-28.3% from 2015)
2019 Projection- sell 16,752 season tickets. -25% (-46.3% from 2015)

Calculation:
2015: 31,168 * $400 = $12,467,200
2016: 28,478 * $400 = $11,391,200 (loss of $1.08 million)
2017: 23,812 * $400 = $9,524,800 (loss of $2.94 million from baseline 2015 number; cumulative loss of $4.02 million)
2018: 22,337 * $400 = $8,934,800 (loss of $3.66 million from baseline 2015; cumulative loss of $7.68 million)
2019: projected 16,752 * $400 = $6,700,800 (loss of $5.77 million from baseline 2015; cumulative loss of $13.45 million)


Quoting myself! One other tidbit from Sarge:

"Severance payments
After spending nearly $3.5 million in severance payments to its deposed football coaches in FY2017, Rutgers didn’t spent a dime in buyouts in FY2018."

Rutgers is essentially losing money by saving money by keeping Ash around. Ponder that. No buyout money spent compared to 2017, but we are losing $3.5M-4M in ticket revenue to pay the lowest paid HC in the B1G $2.5 million/year.

In other words, Rutgers just moved the line item for payouts to lost ticket sales. Why not move that line item back to payouts and increase ticket sales? It's not a given ticket sales would increase, but if RU made an exciting hire, ticket sales would likely stabilize or tick up a bit.
 
If I were to guess, it would be that a good chunk of that is for the assistant coaches and support staff that is required to be a Power 5 Football Team.
Assistant coaches would be included in the coaching salary line. But non-coach sport-specific roles who are not official coaches, like S&C, trainers, etc, would be included in the support staff line.
 
Quoting myself! One other tidbit from Sarge:

"Severance payments
After spending nearly $3.5 million in severance payments to its deposed football coaches in FY2017, Rutgers didn’t spent a dime in buyouts in FY2018."

Rutgers is essentially losing money by saving money by keeping Ash around. Ponder that. No buyout money spent compared to 2017, but we are losing $3.5M-4M in ticket revenue to pay the lowest paid HC in the B1G $2.5 million/year.

In other words, Rutgers just moved the line item for payouts to lost ticket sales. Why not move that line item back to payouts and increase ticket sales? It's not a given ticket sales would increase, but if RU made an exciting hire, ticket sales would likely stabilize or tick up a bit.

To play politics. If N.J.com would right that article they might do it. But by body of work they have never showed an affinity to do that imo.
 
Quoting myself! One other tidbit from Sarge:

"Severance payments
After spending nearly $3.5 million in severance payments to its deposed football coaches in FY2017, Rutgers didn’t spent a dime in buyouts in FY2018."

Rutgers is essentially losing money by saving money by keeping Ash around. Ponder that. No buyout money spent compared to 2017, but we are losing $3.5M-4M in ticket revenue to pay the lowest paid HC in the B1G $2.5 million/year.

In other words, Rutgers just moved the line item for payouts to lost ticket sales. Why not move that line item back to payouts and increase ticket sales? It's not a given ticket sales would increase, but if RU made an exciting hire, ticket sales would likely stabilize or tick up a bit.

Well that makes sense as Flood had a low severance and has been gone for a bit (as have all those assistants). However, that is only football (the "didn't spend a dime" must be for football only). Rutgers is still paying severance according to the figures in the other article:

Severance payments
FY2018: $2,017,961
FY2017: $5,416,948
FY2016: $3,663,380
 
Rutgers sold 28,478 season tickets in 2016 and 31,168 season tickets in 2015.
Here’s how much money Rutgers produced in football ticket-sales revenue during that span:
2015: $11,824,520
2016: $11,129,587
2017: $8,387,569"

"Rutgers’ ticket sales have fallen to American Athletic Conference levels. In 2013 — Rutgers’ first and only season in the American — Rutgers produced $8.7 million in ticket sales.
That total soared to $11.6 million in its first Big Ten campaign in 2014 and to a record $11.8 million in 2015.
The Rutgers football team’s drop to roughly $8.4 million is why the athletic program’s overall ticket-sales total decreased 16.1 percent to $10.76 million in FY2018 after a $12.8 million tally in FY2017."

This tells us something else. In 2017 above, which I assume is the 2017 season so FY 2018, football tix accounted for all but about $2.2 million of ticket revenue ~80%.

The prior year (FY2017) it was all but about $1.7 million, and the year before that (FY2019) it was about $1.9 million.

Ticket sales
FY2018: $10,764,623
FY2017: $12,824,201
FY2016: $13,757,852
 
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