And Cliff has become the guy in gym class that you didn’t cover and still nobody threw him ball
Watching Bama now
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We’d still be better with him
Cliff twisted his ankle in the Texas A&M game on Saturday, and had a limited practice on Monday because of it.. I wouldn’t expect him to be 100% yet, which might explain his playing time and minimal stats in the Mississippi loss on Tuesday.
He is shooting 74%. I'm guessing half of points are from dunks. No post up for Cliff at Alabama.
His minutes are 2/3rds of what they were last year but all the bad stuff has been eliminated by their coaching staff. Adjust for the minutes and his turnovers are down, assists are up, rebounds are up, steals and blocks are down (likely playing more disciplined), shooting percentage improved by almost 50% (51% to 74%).
He would never be this version at RU. Players are free to do what they want here. I want Alabama version of Cliff.
His minutes are 2/3rds of what they were last year but all the bad stuff has been eliminated by their coaching staff. Adjust for the minutes and his turnovers are down, assists are up, rebounds are up, steals and blocks are down (likely playing more disciplined), shooting percentage improved by almost 50% (51% to 74%).
He would never be this version at RU. Players are free to do what they want here. I want Alabama version of Cliff.
Yep. He needed to go elsewhere to try and develop further and improve his overall game. Not sure that is happening, but his lack of development over his 4 years at RU goes in the negative column for Pike and staff. Situations like this may hinder recruiting 4 and 5 star kids just as much as not making the NCAA's this year.
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Be careful you’ll be accused of just being here with an agenda to rip Pike spitting facts. You’re just supposed to be happy it’s not Littlepage or Jordan, a solid example that talent doesn’t develop here is irrelevant. Also if you just want the staff to adapt, adjust and truly coach up talent you’re also demanding too much.
I'll never forget this tweet from when Clif went through the draft process before coming back to Rutgers.
Coaches need to have a tough conversation with players about the reality of their future.
But the players also need to be ready to hear that reality. HC Pike could tell Clif he needs him to fit a different role (defense and rebounding, minimal offense involvement) but Clif needs to accept that.
And if Clif won't accept it - the coach needs to bench him and burn that relationship with a player HC Pike has had for multiple years.
It's a tough situation all around.
