Pike Failed the Fans, Minimal Effort Towards NIL Raising Would’ve Made For a Special Season

[fluoxetine]

You don’t think Pike is trending downward. That’s pretty much the root cause to your confusion. It’s right there

#135
#130
#78
#28
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#77
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#79

I fit a trendline to this in excel and our ranking is actually improving by 5.7167 positions per year with an R^2 of 0.1626

In which exact way do I need to torture the data in order to fit your narrative?


Greg Schiano was in the top 15 in 2006, downward trend ever since.

 

[B0ski]

Painter, Pitino, Hurley, Willard, Underwood, just a few coaches - would any of those guys be sub 500 with two lottery picks? It’s so obvious Pike is out of his league.

 

[biazza38]

#135
#130
#78
#28
#38
#77
#39
#100
#79

I fit a trendline to this in excel and our ranking is actually improving by 5.7167 positions per year with an R^2 of 0.1626

In which exact way do I need to torture the data in order to fit your narrative?


Greg Schiano was in the top 15 in 2006, downward trend ever since.

First off that 77 is skewed because of the losses early in the season. We made the tournament that year
From 2020 to halfway through 2023 we went 50-32.
From the MSU game at MSG til now we are 30-39.
Do you see it now? Pretty easy to comprehend the downward spiral since then.
But please tell me how Pike is not trending down while we might miss the B1G tournament with a team that has two top 5 picks.
I’m not even arguing with you now. I’m genuinely trying to show you why people are upset with Pike. It’s not difficult to understand. If Greg failed in year 9 with two top 5 picks the fanbase would be very upset with him too. It’s really not difficult.

 

[RU_UniWatch]

Greg may be using and or promising the profit sharing 20 million coming not sure Pike was able to offer that to kids last year as he was recruiting this years team.

richie has said on the podcast the money greg is recruiting with nothing to do with revenue sharing

 

[cm_13]

Yes. Has any program other than wrestling? Beating a purdue team who went on to have their season ended by fdu and st peters isnt as impressive as you think. Bball upsets are the norm

 

[shields]

Indiana has not beaten OSU in football since 1987. Football a lot harder.

 

[RUskoolie]

Yes. Has any program other than wrestling? Beating a purdue team who went on to have their season ended by fdu and st peters isnt as impressive as you think. Bball upsets are the norm

Dude that was the most impressive hoops win I have ever seen. We went into Mackey (which is like going into Happy Valley in football) when we just beat them ranked #1 the year before. That game was circled on their calendar and they were undefeated and we beat them in their house, a road win over #1. Incredibly impressive. Can we get a top 25 win in football to snap the 16 year drought?

 

[FAT MOON]

Another five pages on this?!?!?!? Credit to you boys you love to say the same sh*t over and over.

And you're both correct.

We need way more donors period. Regardless of amount. We also need more big time donors.

Side note I'm dying and I mean dying to know who stepped up to get us Dylan and Ace. What they were promised by doing so? How they are feeling about what unfolded and if they would ever give again?

/thread/

 

[Mholinko]

so when RU entered into Big 10 for football there was supposed some kind of grand increase in interest and attendence but after the initial excitement wore off and everyone realized alot of the extra attendance was opposing teams fans you start to realize is there any difference between being in the Big 10 or ACC and would RU have a better shot to compete in both sports in the latter

RU would draw just as well for Miami/Clemson as they do for Penn State/Michigan, same for Virginia/Syracuse as they do for Illinois/Indiana. And RU wont be saddled with 4 automatic losses every season.

for hoops the ACC is in a big down cycle right now but there is certainly space to compete....see Wake, Pitt, SMU all bubble schools.


Its less money but our peers also get less money. Are we more in line with fanbases and $$$ of Ga Tech/BC/Pitt or in line with Indiana/Maryland/USC

the fairytale sold of some sleeping giant if just given the opportunity is false, GS is held up as some godsend yet results wise as an atrocious mark for schools with pulses and hasnt had a national relevent win in 19 years.

With streaming taking over rapidly and less reliance on tv sets, Rutgers only assest of being in the TV market gets diminished by the day and lets face it, thats the only reason we were invitied. Our level of winning across the board is abysmal and thats why schools of other fanbases scratch their head on why were invited

uconn with national championships in hoops cannot even get invited to the acc or big 12, their football is so laughed at but at least there is no pretending they can compete at the big boy level in football

central florida was given a major lifeline but guess what, they are in the fertile recruiting ground of Florida

SMU another given a lifeline but they are a rich school from Texas with deep pockets plus a football tradition and history that puts RU to shame.

I thought from day 1 we were a better fit athletically and in terms of comparable rivals with the ACC

I think we would’ve been better off and arguably seen better results in some of these marginal seasons

 

[fluoxetine]

Painter, Pitino, Hurley, Willard, Underwood, just a few coaches - would any of those guys be sub 500 with two lottery picks? It’s so obvious Pike is out of his league.

lol one of those (Willard) is not like the others. The other four are surely great coaches but if you gave them the exact same roster and injuries I think the difference would be less than you think (I do think they’d do better though)

But unless you think we’re hiring away Painter, Pitino, Hurley, or Underwood (or Willard for that matter) I’m not seeing the relevance

First off that 77 is skewed because of the losses early in the season.

Lmao I was expecting data torture but that’s even worse than I thought.

I’m genuinely trying to show you why people are upset with Pike.

Dude I am upset with Pike. You really need to read and understand the things you reply to if you want to be taken seriously.

 

[fluoxetine]

No answer for the fact that Greg’s on a 19 year downtrend either

 

[KK1827]

Dude that was the most impressive hoops win I have ever seen. We went into Mackey (which is like going into Happy Valley in football) when we just beat them ranked #1 the year before. That game was circled on their calendar and they were undefeated and we beat them in their house, a road win over #1. Incredibly impressive. Can we get a top 25 win in football to snap the 16 year drought?

It was very impressive. It doesn't change the fact the win was not as special in hindsight when they had their season ended by an NJ low major who plays in a high school gym

 

[fluoxetine]

Dude that was the most impressive hoops win I have ever seen. We went into Mackey (which is like going into Happy Valley in football) when we just beat them ranked #1 the year before. That game was circled on their calendar and they were undefeated and we beat them in their house, a road win over #1. Incredibly impressive. Can we get a top 25 win in football to snap the 16 year drought?

God damn after that win who could’ve imagined we’d be at this point today.

 

[biazza38]

lol one of those (Willard) is not like the others. The other four are surely great coaches but if you gave them the exact same roster and injuries I think the difference would be less than you think (I do think they’d do better though)

But unless you think we’re hiring away Painter, Pitino, Hurley, or Underwood (or Willard for that matter) I’m not seeing the relevance



Lmao I was expecting data torture but that’s even worse than I thought.



Dude I am upset with Pike. You really need to read and understand the things you reply to if you want to be taken seriously.

of course you removed the records from my post. Wow
There’s dishonesty and then there’s what you just did. Wow
Just wow. Here you go again. The full post. You just CNN’ed that thing.

First off that 77 is skewed because of the losses early in the season. We made the tournament that year
From 2020 to halfway through 2023 we went 50-32.
From the MSU game at MSG til now we are 30-39.
Do you see it now? Pretty easy to comprehend the downward spiral since then.
But please tell me how Pike is not trending down while we might miss the B1G tournament with a team that has two top 5 picks.
I’m not even arguing with you now. I’m genuinely trying to show you why people are upset with Pike. It’s not difficult to understand. If Greg failed in year 9 with two top 5 picks the fanbase would be very upset with him too. It’s really not difficult.

After reading what he’s done the last 69 games do you finally admit he’s trending downward? Or are you going to just reference the NET? A number that is easily manipulated and not just based off wins and losses. And then rip on football

You’ve tried repeatedly to state that football and basketball have had similar mediocre results. So I will say this for the 1000th time. If Greg failed the way Pike is failing with two top 5 (possibly top 3) picks, people would also feel the same way about him as they do about Pike right now.

Btw, in several posts I responded to, no where did you even hint at being upset with Pike. You just tried to make it seem that bball was not trending downward, even though anyone who has watched over the last two years knows it is.

 

[fluoxetine]

of course you removed the records from my post. Wow
There’s dishonesty and then there’s what you just did. Wow
Just wow. Here you go again. The full post. You just CNN’ed that thing.

lol you’ve finally broken me you dumb mother****er. I didn’t delete your post from its place on the internet right above my response, I just quoted the parts I was responding to. As I explained to you before

(For the benefit of anyone else who is as ****ing dumb as this guy, there was more to his post than the part I quoted. You can read it by scrolling up 1 inch)

 

[biazza38]

lol you’ve finally broken me you dumb mother****er. I didn’t delete your post from its place on the internet right above my response, I just quoted the parts I was responding to. As I explained to you before

(For the benefit of anyone else who is as ****ing dumb as this guy, there was more to his post than the part I quoted. You can read it by scrolling up 1 inch)

Hahahahhahahahahahah
I didn’t say you deleted my post you idiot
You selectively quoted parts it of while leaving the entire body of work out. No one does that. It’s wildly dishonest.

I’m also not the dumb mother f**cker who doesn’t realize that basketball is trending downward. But of course you can’t quote the 30-39 record over the past 69 games because that was “oh sh*t” moment where you realized basketball was trending downward. It was too difficult for you to say I may have been right about that. Can’t say that. No, you had to resort to name calling.
Yeah, quote the NET again and tell me that basketball hasn’t gone in the wrong direction you jackass.
Goodnight. F**k You!!

 

[fluoxetine]

I idiot selectively dishonest.

dumb mother f**cker 30-39 69 trending downward.

name calling.

Goodnight. F**k You!!

You seem mad. I hope you don’t resort to name calling.

 

[biazza38]

You seem mad. I hope you don’t resort to name calling.

Once you call someone a dumb mother****er. I think it’s a given they will send it back. The difference is, you hurled an expletive at me once I called you on your bs and you couldn’t stand how wrong you were about the direction of bball. You’re upset with Pike but couldn’t admit that bball is heading in the wrong direction. No, you had to attempt to be smart and reference trendlines and the NET when anyone watching over the last 70 games would tell you that it’s been really bad. But apparently we’ve improved according to your trend line
Face meet palm
Glad we’re on the same page now.

 

[RutgersChow]

He’s paid $3.5 million to be the CEO of the hoops program. If he doesn’t want the added responsibility of NIL he should go back to Stony Brook and be a basketball coach for $175k.

He doesn't coach the offense, the inbounds plays, or the press breaker, and he doesn't seem to be the main recruiter. He has plenty of time to contribute to NIL fundraising. Does he want to? GS finds the time.

 

[mugrat86]

Painter, Pitino, Hurley, Willard, Underwood, just a few coaches - would any of those guys be sub 500 with two lottery picks? It’s so obvious Pike is out of his league.

Calapari has proven over and over again that lottery picks don’t guarantee you crap

 

[mugrat86]

There is no doubt that this seasons results for both football and basketball were terrible. I don’t understand how anyone could think that Greg has brought in great portal players. Athan basically had no other power 5 choices besides RU and KC identified him based on past experiences. We needed offensive line help desperately and the mods kept saying we don’t have the money to compete for them, yet Kyk claims Greg is a NIL champion

 

[FAT MOON]

There is no doubt that this seasons results for both football and basketball were terrible. I don’t understand how anyone could think that Greg has brought in great portal players. Athan basically had no other power 5 choices besides RU and KC identified him based on past experiences. We needed offensive line help desperately and the mods kept saying we don’t have the money to compete for them, yet Kyk claims Greg is a NIL champion

it's very strange to me that there seems to be a very positive correlation between guys who hate Pike also LOVING Schiano.

 

[RUGiddy777]

We don’t. We don’t have the support to successfully compete in the ACC either. Basketball is the cash cow for most ACC schools. The AAC is where we belong from a support perspective, yet here we are. So we either compete or accept our lot.

From a school profile perspective, the B1G is perfect. It’s just going to take time. I’ll take struggles now for a bright future over the hopeless situation we were in before that awesome Saturday in November 2012 changed everything.

 

[RUGiddy777]

Lol, what!?

Our basketball recruiting is a joke compared to football

We’ve been brought in 3 top 25 classes, 6
Top 30 classes in basketball since pike has been here. We’ve brought in like 1 top 25 and 2 top 30 classes in football in the last 3 decades.

Theres plenty of criticisms of pike - inexplicable early season losses against vastly inferior opponents, this season being a complete debacle, wasting scholarships on players who needed too much development to contribute, uneven recruiting, and lack of difference makers in the portal - but he’s overall recruited much better than football.

I don’t know why Schiano fans have such a complex about Pike. Both have similar challenges with respect to institutional support. But I’m glad to have both here at RU.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Another five pages on this?!?!?!? Credit to you boys you love to say the same sh*t over and over.

And you're both correct.

We need way more donors period. Regardless of amount. We also need more big time donors.

Side note I'm dying and I mean dying to know who stepped up to get us Dylan and Ace. What they were promised by doing so? How they are feeling about what unfolded and if they would ever give again?

/thread/

This has been gone over many times. No one (relatively speaking) chooses Rutgers to follow athletics, therefore assuming they will support athletics after graduation is a suspect concept. Other state Us can rely on state pride.. which is how those universities were built by the state's elite families. Not so in New Jersey. New Jersey's elite built Princeton and otherwise attended all other eastern privates.

Rutgers became a land grant U because the governor was having a tiff with the president of Princeton. Rutgers did not become the state U until the GI bill would provide a lot of NJ veterans with funds to attend colleges and New Jersey wanted a cheap way to offer a State U rather than see these veterans, often with families, have to go out of state.

What other universities do NJ residents support? Catholic Us.. and the sports-minded college applicants would pick Penn State and other sports powers.

Futhermore, Rutgers has always provided opportunities to those families who even had a college grad in their family. When they graduate they have a lot of responsibilities other than supporting sports programs.

Simply put, I understand the need for more money and NIL money in particular.. but Rutgers is going to have to be very creative to get that done. And I think it needs to start finding a way to get teh support of local media and local businesses as well as those international corps with a vested interest in New Jersey.

Consider J&J, M&M Mars, Campbell Soup, AT&T, Verizon... all with huge New Jersey ties and footprints.. yet Rutgers Stadium is SHI Stadium. Jersey Mikes is great.. but considering the relative ages of these other corporations. why don't they support the State University the way corporations in other states support that state's university? I think it is because of the politicians. Which New Jersey politicians have done favors for these corporations paid back with support for Rutgers? You think that doesn't happen every day in other states?

Rutgers is just in a unique situation. Sad, but true.

 

[FAT MOON]

This has been gone over many times. No one (relatively speaking) chooses Rutgers to follow athletics, therefore assuming they will support athletics after graduation is a suspect concept. Other state Us can rely on state pride.. which is how those universities were built by the state's elite families. Not so in New Jersey. New Jersey's elite built Princeton and otherwise attended all other eastern privates.

Rutgers became a land grant U because the governor was having a tiff with the president of Princeton. Rutgers did not become the state U until the GI bill would provide a lot of NJ veterans with funds to attend colleges and New Jersey wanted a cheap way to offer a State U rather than see these veterans, often with families, have to go out of state.

What other universities do NJ residents support? Catholic Us.. and the sports-minded college applicants would pick Penn State and other sports powers.

Futhermore, Rutgers has always provided opportunities to those families who even had a college grad in their family. When they graduate they have a lot of responsibilities other than supporting sports programs.

Simply put, I understand the need for more money and NIL money in particular.. but Rutgers is going to have to be very creative to get that done. And I think it needs to start finding a way to get teh support of local media and local businesses as well as those international corps with a vested interest in New Jersey.

Consider J&J, M&M Mars, Campbell Soup, AT&T, Verizon... all with huge New Jersey ties and footprints.. yet Rutgers Stadium is SHI Stadium. Jersey Mikes is great.. but considering the relative ages of these other corporations. why don't they support the State University the way corporations in other states support that state's university? I think it is because of the politicians. Which New Jersey politicians have done favors for these corporations paid back with support for Rutgers? You think that doesn't happen every day in other states?

Rutgers is just in a unique situation. Sad, but true.

i guess we can add "no one chooses Rutgers to follow athletics" to the list of excuses why we're a cheap a$$ fanbase 🤷‍♂️

 

[365Poster24Seven]

There is no doubt that this seasons results for both football and basketball were terrible. I don’t understand how anyone could think that Greg has brought in great portal players. Athan basically had no other power 5 choices besides RU and KC identified him based on past experiences. We needed offensive line help desperately and the mods kept saying we don’t have the money to compete for them, yet Kyk claims Greg is a NIL champion

Greg IMO used the promise of the football teams share of the 20 million to get this years class of portal transfers. Last season many threads discussed how we did not get any top flight transfers. The QB was discussed and how he had no other options and the lack of us bringing in LB and OL help. Now it’s conveniently forgotten lol. Pike had the same issue constructing his team for this year as Greg did last year. Next year Pike will have money but he had squat this year.

 

[snowboarder]

Schiano’s NIL recruiting hardly inspires confidence as we are bringing in the same caliber of kid basketball is. Lower conference kids whose ability we hope, will scale. We’re hoping all these kids will be able to impact, but there’s no guarantee. The jury is out. Meanwhile Miami’s Mario Cristobal wants a kid, he goes out and gets him, because he is backed up by alumni.

Which recruits are better than what we’re bringing in in basketball? They are listed below. We have two power 5 transfers, though Zilinskas could redshirt. The rest are James Madison types or similar.

Hard to see these transfers getting us to competitive with OSU, PSU, and Oregon, but hope springs eternal.




RB
CJ Campbell Jr.
1
Florida Atlantic
WR
DT Sheffield
1
North Texas
TE
Colin Weber
1
Charlotte
OL
Hank Zilinskas
2
Colorado
DE
Eric O'Neill
1
James Madison
DE
Bradley Weaver
1
Ohio
DT
Doug Blue-Eli
1
South Florida
DT
Darold DeNgohe
3
James Madison
CB
Jacobie Henderson
2
Marshall
CB
Cam Miller
1
Penn State
S
Jett Elad
1
UNLV

[ISPOILER][/ISPOILER]

Which recruits are better than what we’re bringing in in basketball? They are listed below. We have two power 5 transfers, though Zilinskas could redshirt. The rest are James Madison types or similar.

Hard to see these transfers getting us to competitive with OSU, PSU, and Oregon, but hope springs eternal.




RB
CJ Campbell Jr.
1
Florida Atlantic
WR
DT Sheffield
1
North Texas
TE
Colin Weber
1
Charlotte
OL
Hank Zilinskas
2
Colorado
DE
Eric O'Neill
1
James Madison
DE
Bradley Weaver
1
Ohio
DT
Doug Blue-Eli
1
South Florida
DT
Darold DeNgohe
3
James Madison
CB
Jacobie Henderson
2
Marshall
CB
Cam Miller
1
Penn State
S
Jett Elad
1
UNLV

2025 College Football Team Transfer Portal Rankings

The 2025 college football transfer portal team rankings.

www.on3.com

These rankings would say that Schiano is doing far better then pike in the transfer portal
Not in the same universe

 

[rutgersal]

He had 2 of the most expensive NIL players in the country, and therefore one of the most expensive rosters.

doesn’t matter where the money came from, nobody here knows for certain, just a bunch of misinformation or speculation.

the NIL spend was top heavy so success was dependent on the 2 superstars being good enough to carry the team despite the quality of the supporting cast.

while the 2 superstars are good, they were not good enough!

Of course it mattered where the NIL came from because fan NIL paid for the balance of players, who have not had the desired impact. If not for outside NIL, the 2 superstars would not be here.

 

[365Poster24Seven]

[ISPOILER][/ISPOILER]

2025 College Football Team Transfer Portal Rankings

The 2025 college football transfer portal team rankings.

www.on3.com

These rankings would say that Schiano is doing far better then pike in the transfer portal
Not in the same universe

How about 2024? Check that one out please. That’s the year where the football teams brought in very little but you must be new or not k ow or forgot the struggles of recruiting with no NIL. Greg got 2025 with the promise of profit sharing.

 

[365Poster24Seven]

Lots of fanboys who don’t have a clue in this thread.

 

[rutgersal]

[ISPOILER][/ISPOILER]

2025 College Football Team Transfer Portal Rankings

The 2025 college football transfer portal team rankings.

www.on3.com

These rankings would say that Schiano is doing far better then pike in the transfer portal
Not in the same universe

Sorry but this is a load of BS, because no one knows the impact that these transfers will actually have. It’s a projection. When we face Iowa, that’s how we’ll know how good our transfers really are.

If we had real funds, we’d be taking P5 transfers, not James Madison or Ohio transfers.

 

[rutgersal]

Eric O’Neill was already talked about as someone who possibly could have gone to the NFL draft this year. Not to mention our QB this past year was from the portal. I’m done. I could talk about Flip Dixon, and others who have come here in the portal and played at a B1G level, but I’m not going to because it’s so painfully obvious how bad basketball has done in the portal the last two seasons

Eric O’Neill is at Rutgers to improve his draft prospects, because he likely would have been a low round pick or free agent if he came out this year. His impact on the Big 10 level is unknown, but rooting for his success. Flip Dixon previously played at Minnesota so he was a known Big 10 commodity.

 

[biazza38]

Sorry but this is a load of BS, because no one knows the impact that these transfers will actually have. It’s a projection. When we face Iowa, that’s how we’ll know how good our transfers really are.

If we had real funds, we’d be taking P5 transfers, not James Madison or Ohio transfers.

We take p5 transfers every year
What planet are you from
Athan
Flip Dixon
Malcolm Ray
Mo Iton
Michael Dwumfour
Sean Ryan
Cruickshank
Patrice Rene
Haskins


Our portal players from lower levels have also had a much better impact on football than bball

Ifeanyi Maijeh
JD Direnzo
Dynmier Miller
Christian Braswell just to start.


I’m done here

 

[rutgersal]

We take p5 transfers every year
What planet are you from
Athan
Flip Dixon
Malcolm Ray
Mo Iton
Michael Dwumfour
Sean Ryan
Cruickshank
Patrice Rene
Haskins


Our portal players from lower levels have also had a much better impact on football than bball

Ifeanyi Maijeh
JD Direnzo
Dynmier Miller
Christian Braswell just to start.


I’m done here

most of our P5 transfers worked out. Hardly surprising.

This year, We didn’t take many P5 transfers, because we don’t have adequate NIL support, similar to basketball. That’s the point. Prior to these year, we might have taken a few non power 5 kids, like Miller. Now non power 5 are the majority of our transfers. We all hope they work out, but it is not assured. The OL Rhodes, from the MAC, did not work out last year.


Both football and basketball need more NIL support.

 

[biazza38]

most of our P5 transfers worked out. Hardly surprising.

This year, We didn’t take many P5 transfers, because we don’t have adequate NIL support, similar to basketball. That’s the point. Prior to these year, we might have taken a few non power 5 kids, like Miller. Now non power 5 are the majority of our transfers. We all hope they work out, but it is not assured. The OL Rhodes, from the MAC, did not work out last year.


Both football and basketball need more NIL support.

Your original point was that Schiano was bringing in the same caliber player that was is. When you take a deeper look, that’s clearly not true. Pike has brought in low level guys who don’t belong in the B1G.

 

[rutgersal]

Your original point was that Schiano was bringing in the same caliber player that was is. When you take a deeper look, that’s clearly not true. Pike has brought in low level guys who don’t belong in the B1G.

It is true. All you can respond with is with some Pom-pom waving unsupported nonsense that O’Neill could have gone to the NFL draft but instead chose to come to Rutgers, which is laughable. The OL Rhodes doesn’t belong in the B1G either, so we’re not exactly batting 1.00000 here. Going back, Bowman, Brantley, and Charles Amankwaa also didn’t much of anything, but other transfers did contribute so the portal has been a mixed bag for us, but hardly a guarantee.

So The jury is out on the transfers we brought in. If these kids can at least be average, that would be huge, but we shall see.

 

[biazza38]

It is true. All you can respond with is with some Pom-pom waving unsupported nonsense that O’Neill could have gone to the NFL draft but instead chose to come to Rutgers, which is laughable. The OL Rhodes doesn’t belong in the B1G either, so we’re not exactly batting 1.00000 here. Going back, Bowman, Brantley, and Charles Amankwaa also didn’t much of anything, but other transfers did contribute so the portal has been a mixed bag for us, but hardly a guarantee.

So The jury is out on the transfers we brought in. If these kids can at least be average, that would be huge, but we shall see.

You literally ignored every player I brought up. Pom Pom waving unsupported nonsense lol sure

Never said we were batting 1000 and never said it’s not a mixed bag. Just making the claim that football has brought in players who contributed more. Not sure how that’s even debatable when our QB was literally brought in through the portal and had the most passing yards for any RU QB since 2014. But again, please continue to tell me that football has not had more success with the portal in recent than basketball. Please bring up some dl or OL who didn’t play.
Please stop. Please. I honestly cannot handle your nonsense.

You might be right, we don’t know how Eric O’Neil and the others will do. But Pike brought in 4 guys last year. 3 of which did not have the size, speed, or strength to play at the B1G level. I’m willy to bet, just based off of previous classes, GS’s portal class is not 75% full of guys who don’t belong at the B1G level. That’s my point. Pike offered guys almost no one else offered.
Our leadings received from last’s year team was from Monmouth. There isn’t a single portal player from basketball this year who is even remotely close to contributing the way Miller did for football.
Bball got Cam Spencer and maybe Hyatt’s a win. But that’s it

I’ll make this easy for you. Bball season is almost over. Given what we saw from football. Our Qb who had the most passing yards for RU since 2014 and our leading receiver came from the portal. And given what we’ve seen from the portal players in bball this year, which has been an absolute disaster. Are you honestly going to tell me football did not bring in better players who had a more positive impact than basketball?

 

[RUJMM78]

Calapari has proven over and over again that lottery picks don’t guarantee you crap

That might be so but lottery picks gives coaches a decided talent advantage.How they meld those players with the rest of the roster will determine team success.Duke is having a terrific season with Flagg as the star player and so is Maryland with Queen.In Rutgers case Bailey and Harper are surrounded by players that lack the skillset to be successful in the B1G Ten.

 

[rutgersal]

You literally ignored every player I brought up. Pom Pom waving unsupported nonsense lol sure

Never said we were batting 1000 and never said it’s not a mixed bag. Just making the claim that football has brought in players who contributed more. Not sure how that’s even debatable when our QB was literally brought in through the portal and had the most passing yards for any RU QB since 2014. But again, please continue to tell me that football has not had more success with the portal in recent than basketball. Please bring up some dl or OL who didn’t play.
Please stop. Please. I honestly cannot handle your nonsense.

You might be right, we don’t know how Eric O’Neil and the others will do. But Pike brought in 4 guys last year. 3 of which did not have the size, speed, or strength to play at the B1G level. I’m willy to bet, just based off of previous classes, GS’s portal class is not 75% full of guys who don’t belong at the B1G level. That’s my point. Pike offered guys almost no one else offered.
Our leadings received from last’s year team was from Monmouth. There isn’t a single portal player from basketball this year who is even remotely close to contributing the way Miller did for football.
Bball got Cam Spencer and maybe Hyatt’s a win. But that’s it

I’ll make this easy for you. Bball season is almost over. Given what we saw from football. Our Qb who had the most passing yards for RU since 2014 and our leading receiver came from the portal. And given what we’ve seen from the portal players in bball this year, which has been an absolute disaster. Are you honestly going to tell me football did not bring in better players who had a more positive impact than basketball?

I acknowledged that we brought in transfers who are successful. But this is a different caliber of transfer we’re bringing in, as most transfers are from lower conferences.

Which is why your comparison between this class and previous classes is apples and oranges. This is what you are doing when you say you’re confident about this class based on the effectiveness of previous classes. This is your projection.

We only knew that Pikes kids weren’t good enough after they took the floor.

We’ll know the football transfers impact when they face Iowa. Because the fear is that they might not be strong enough or fast enough, yet hope springs eternal. I’m saying that there isn’t satisfactory evidence yet that football brought in better transfers than basketball.