Pike Failed the Fans, Minimal Effort Towards NIL Raising Would’ve Made For a Special Season

[mugrat86]

That might be so but lottery picks gives coaches a decided talent advantage.How they meld those players with the rest of the roster will determine team success.Duke is having a terrific season with Flagg as the star player and so is Maryland with Queen.In Rutgers case Bailey and Harper are surrounded by players that lack the skillset to be successful in the B1G Ten.

True but we don’t have the money Duke and MD have

 

[needmorecowbell]

Was chatting with the guy Ive mentioned here before whos involved in the NJ AAU scene and is the former coach at a parochial. He said he finds it hard to believe that Rutgers didnt have the money to pay Cliff to stay and get the Princeton guard who went to ND.

He said cliff apparently got $800K from Bama, Alloco got $500K from Notre Dame and he is unsure what Mag got from BYU.

But with that said, considering Mag didnt have a laundry list of suitors, let’s assume he got $200K.

If pike put even minimal effort into fundraising, youre telling me he couldnt raise $1.5 to nab those 3?

The lack of effort towards fundraising for this seasons roster will be unforgiveable by most fans and rightfully so.

A roster with a starting 5 of

Harper
Alloco
Bailey
Mag
Cliff

With guys off the bench who required minimal NIL like
Ogbole
Martini
Dercack
J Williams
J-Mike
Dortch
Grant


(Yes im leaving off lathan because he was expensive and his money couldve been used towards cliff/mag/alloco)

That easily gets us to the tourney and probably sets us up for a run as well.

The lack of effort towards fundraising and allocation of funds available this year will go down as the single biggest missed opportunity in Rutgers sports history.

This is how losers generally think. Who is blame? It doesn’t make sense to me so therefore someone screwed up. And to quote a local AAU coach (bottom of the barrel in coaching) is like asking a bunch of gossiping girls about a girl they don’t like. Doesn’t mean sh!t. It also show how little people like this watch other teams/conferences and how little they understand the sport. There are 20-30 teams that spend a ton of money. Even those teams aren’t guaranteed to be successful.

1) The numbers you quoted are wrong. Cliff got over $1M. 2) of course Pike would have liked to keep Cliff. 3) OSU has a lot more money and Alloco is from Ohio. 4) Mag quit on the team and Pike cut him out. That was the right move. 5) they clearly need to change the plan on roster management but saying he failed the fans and didn’t put in any effort is stupid. Pike lives and breathes Rutgers basketball.

You pulled this same crap 2-3 years ago, back tracked and made a fool of yourself.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Painter, Pitino, Hurley, Willard, Underwood, just a few coaches - would any of those guys be sub 500 with two lottery picks? It’s so obvious Pike is out of his league.

if the 2 lottery picks were Dylan and Ace probably

 

[biazza38]

I acknowledged that we brought in transfers who are successful. But this is a different caliber of transfer we’re bringing in, as most transfers are from lower conferences.

Which is why your comparison between this class and previous classes is apples and oranges. This is what you are doing when you say you’re confident about this class based on the effectiveness of previous classes. This is your projection.

We only knew that Pikes kids weren’t good enough after they took the floor.

We’ll know the football transfers impact when they face Iowa. Because the fear is that they might not be strong enough or fast enough, yet hope springs eternal. I’m saying that there isn’t satisfactory evidence yet that football brought in better transfers than basketball.

With all due respect, our number one portal target in bball was an undersized Ivy League pf who averaged less than 10 ppg and had no business starting or playing in the B1G. If you don’t think the guys football brought in are better caliber than that, then I’m sorry, you don’t know what what you’re talking about.
The players that football brought in may not be from the P4, but at a minimum, are athletic enough and fast enough to play in the B1G. Just watch the tape.

 

[bac2therac]

if the 2 lottery picks were Dylan and Ace probably

you dont believe this

 

[rutgersal]

With all due respect, our number one portal target in bball was an undersized Ivy League pf who averaged less than 10 ppg and had no business starting or playing in the B1G. If you don’t think the guys football brought in are better caliber than that, then I’m sorry, you don’t know what what you’re talking about.
The players that football brought in may not be from the P4, but at a minimum, are athletic enough and fast enough to play in the B1G. Just watch the tape.

We all agree that our basketball transfers stink. The disconnect is how good are our football transfers? We can cherry-pick players here and there, but it doesn’t really mean anything. I could easily post that I have faith in Pikiell because he recruited Cam Spencer, who is better than any transfer Schiano brought in, because Spencer is actually playing in the show.

How can tape of lower conference transfers going up against other lower conference players, prove effectiveness in the Big Ten? Come on! To exaggerate the point, Savon Huggins looked all world in high school, but wasn’t that good at Rutgers.

You can say you have faith in Schiano’s ability to identify talent, and that would be acceptable.

But At least some of the Big Ten players they will be going up against will be playing in the NFL. So for me the jury is out on how effective these players will be, though I appreciate that you think these players will be good.

 

[biazza38]

We all agree that our basketball transfers stink. The disconnect is how good are our football transfers? We can cherry-pick players here and there, but it doesn’t really mean anything. I could easily post that I have faith in Pikiell because he recruited Cam Spencer, who is better than any transfer Schiano brought in, because Spencer is actually playing in the show.

How can tape of lower conference transfers going up against other lower conference players, prove effectiveness in the Big Ten? Come on! To exaggerate the point, Savon Huggins looked all world in high school, but wasn’t that good at Rutgers.

You can say you have faith in Schiano’s ability to identify talent, and that would be acceptable.

But At least some of the Big Ten players they will be going up against will be playing in the NFL. So for me the jury is out on how effective these players will be, though I appreciate that you think these players will be good.

Your original point was that they are the same caliber of player. Which they are not.

We obviously don’t know how they will perform. But when you’re landing first team all conference players and guys who could have gone to the NFL, they are clearly a different caliber of player than what bball brought in. Not all “non power” conference players are of the same caliber.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

you dont believe this

so we are saying willard is a much better coach than Pike? Underwood?

I dont buy it.

Sorry. Games are won on both ends of the court.

 

[bac2therac]

so we are saying willard is a much better coach than Pike? Underwood?

I dont buy it.

Sorry. Games are won on both ends of the court.

yes they are and the proof is the pudding

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

yes they are and the proof is the pudding

i'll show you pudding.....


EDIT...actually don't know what that means.

 

[jakeknight]

Don’t see anyway retaining mag And or cliff makes a huge difference. Couldn't have mag come back after he walked out on the team last year, plus he what has he done this year at BYU?
Cliff would make a difference as a rim protector but would have no impact on the perimeter defense . Team D is the biggest problem with this team.