Pike Failed the Fans, Minimal Effort Towards NIL Raising Would’ve Made For a Special Season
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This is how losers generally think. Who is blame? It doesn’t make sense to me so therefore someone screwed up. And to quote a local AAU coach (bottom of the barrel in coaching) is like asking a bunch of gossiping girls about a girl they don’t like. Doesn’t mean sh!t. It also show how little people like this watch other teams/conferences and how little they understand the sport. There are 20-30 teams that spend a ton of money. Even those teams aren’t guaranteed to be successful.
1) The numbers you quoted are wrong. Cliff got over $1M. 2) of course Pike would have liked to keep Cliff. 3) OSU has a lot more money and Alloco is from Ohio. 4) Mag quit on the team and Pike cut him out. That was the right move. 5) they clearly need to change the plan on roster management but saying he failed the fans and didn’t put in any effort is stupid. Pike lives and breathes Rutgers basketball.
You pulled this same crap 2-3 years ago, back tracked and made a fool of yourself.
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if the 2 lottery picks were Dylan and Ace probably
With all due respect, our number one portal target in bball was an undersized Ivy League pf who averaged less than 10 ppg and had no business starting or playing in the B1G. If you don’t think the guys football brought in are better caliber than that, then I’m sorry, you don’t know what what you’re talking about.
The players that football brought in may not be from the P4, but at a minimum, are athletic enough and fast enough to play in the B1G. Just watch the tape.
We all agree that our basketball transfers stink. The disconnect is how good are our football transfers? We can cherry-pick players here and there, but it doesn’t really mean anything. I could easily post that I have faith in Pikiell because he recruited Cam Spencer, who is better than any transfer Schiano brought in, because Spencer is actually playing in the show.
How can tape of lower conference transfers going up against other lower conference players, prove effectiveness in the Big Ten? Come on! To exaggerate the point, Savon Huggins looked all world in high school, but wasn’t that good at Rutgers.
You can say you have faith in Schiano’s ability to identify talent, and that would be acceptable.
But At least some of the Big Ten players they will be going up against will be playing in the NFL. So for me the jury is out on how effective these players will be, though I appreciate that you think these players will be good.
Your original point was that they are the same caliber of player. Which they are not.
We obviously don’t know how they will perform. But when you’re landing first team all conference players and guys who could have gone to the NFL, they are clearly a different caliber of player than what bball brought in. Not all “non power” conference players are of the same caliber.
so we are saying willard is a much better coach than Pike? Underwood?
I dont buy it.
Sorry. Games are won on both ends of the court.
Don’t see anyway retaining mag And or cliff makes a huge difference. Couldn't have mag come back after he walked out on the team last year, plus he what has he done this year at BYU?
Cliff would make a difference as a rim protector but would have no impact on the perimeter defense . Team D is the biggest problem with this team.
Cliff would make a difference as a rim protector but would have no impact on the perimeter defense . Team D is the biggest problem with this team.
In a vaccum - our perimeter D isn’t that bad.
The main reason it stinks is because we have zero post presence on D so teams can penetrate and score at will until we sell out in overplaying the interior. We don’t have guys like Caleb or Mag who are quick enough compensate on help so the result is either leaving guys wide open on the outside or giving up automatic lay ups inside. We seem to prefer to force teams to beat us from the outside.
This dude has major anger issues. He resorts to these mini tantrums and name calling in almost every response he doesn't agree with. Easily triggered message board warrior apparently. Ignore him.
I will never understand why people think one needs to be angry in order to call someone a ****ing idiot on the internet.
I am capable of observing your idiocy without getting angry at it. Though I guess it is a little annoying that dumb ****s like you drown out the real discussion.
It’s especially glaring because there was content in that reply beyond my assertion that you are catastrophically stupid and you would absolutely argue with it except that you yourself have even realized you were wrong now.
Congrats.
I am capable of observing your idiocy without getting angry at it. Though I guess it is a little annoying that dumb ****s like you drown out the real discussion.
It’s especially glaring because there was content in that reply beyond my assertion that you are catastrophically stupid and you would absolutely argue with it except that you yourself have even realized you were wrong now.
Congrats.
“And to quote a local AAU coach (bottom of the barrel in coaching) is like asking a bunch of gossiping girls about a girl they don’t like. Doesn’t mean sh!t.” Classic line and Kyk rubbing elbows with the greatest minds in basketball.
In the world according to Kyk, somehow Greggie walks on water without really accomplishing anything, and Pikes sucks. Got it.
And the goal posts move after bros first point is refuted
Your leeway for Greg vs Pike is admirable
Almost as if you're trying to fit a narrative...lol
I think is the other way around...
Let's be clear: Rutgers fans are the ones who let this team down with their cheapness and refusal to support NIL. This program will never achieve anything without a change in that mentality. We had an amazing opportunity this year with two great players and we blew it by maintaining this view that NIL is should not be part of college athletics. For Rutgers to compete, the fans must contribute or increase their NIL contributions. This is the only way to get the needed players to make a tournament run in the future.
Nah. Money doesnt come unless asked for.
Do you know what are exact budget was? Do you know what our players cost? Do you know what other schools’ portal hauls cost exactly? Unless you do you cannot make that statement period.
I like and respect what Pikell has done overall for RU, but I admit I am really down on him and his staff.
This is not just this season, but really since Mag's injury at MSG vs MSU.
He has had 2 cycles and has not been able to course correct how to navigate the current climate. His piss-poor recruiting also caught up with the team.
Changes and disruptions occur in all industries.
But his coaching also limits the ceiling--in OT vs Washington, RU went into the waste 30 seconds of sitting on the ball and chuck a desperation shot. Was similar to Houston in NCAAs and many other games. This time, FTs and second chance opps (Bailey getting an offensive rebound) saved RU, as well as a bad shot by the Huskies.
He can be defensive but it shouldn't be at the cost of finding 1-dimensional players, no creativity on O, can't shoot 3s, guys who can't play off ball. His recruiting of Lathan and esp Grant is encouraging, and hopefully Grant stays. But after Harper and Bailey go, we need to drive everyone else to the airport. No more Davis--I was happy when Juel Wiggan left. I didn't want his reincarination 20 years later.
He won't get fired, and I am not calling for it. I call for a top to bottom reassessment of the program and him needing to recognize what is doing isn't working. Maybe change up the staff. His offensive philosophy. He can recruit lower level guys, but clearly hit rate is alarming. And if he has to fundraise, then do it. Can't be above it.
This is not just this season, but really since Mag's injury at MSG vs MSU.
He has had 2 cycles and has not been able to course correct how to navigate the current climate. His piss-poor recruiting also caught up with the team.
Changes and disruptions occur in all industries.
But his coaching also limits the ceiling--in OT vs Washington, RU went into the waste 30 seconds of sitting on the ball and chuck a desperation shot. Was similar to Houston in NCAAs and many other games. This time, FTs and second chance opps (Bailey getting an offensive rebound) saved RU, as well as a bad shot by the Huskies.
He can be defensive but it shouldn't be at the cost of finding 1-dimensional players, no creativity on O, can't shoot 3s, guys who can't play off ball. His recruiting of Lathan and esp Grant is encouraging, and hopefully Grant stays. But after Harper and Bailey go, we need to drive everyone else to the airport. No more Davis--I was happy when Juel Wiggan left. I didn't want his reincarination 20 years later.
He won't get fired, and I am not calling for it. I call for a top to bottom reassessment of the program and him needing to recognize what is doing isn't working. Maybe change up the staff. His offensive philosophy. He can recruit lower level guys, but clearly hit rate is alarming. And if he has to fundraise, then do it. Can't be above it.
Did Pikiell not ask donors for money?
Or are we just assuming this?
Im not saying Pikiell doesn’t need to do better in this area but I’m sure there are plenty of boosters across the country who are proactively offering their money up to coaches and programs for NIL. I think those folks are few and far between at Rutgers.
I dont believe hes working very hard at all to try to fundraise. His position seems to be that its not his job
The easiest way to do that is bring in a better coach one people believe in. Current coaches are underperforming and not delivering .
1) not true many different reports got over 1mm was early in his transfer! Everything this year and throughout has been reported as less
2) 50/50 Cliffs local advisor and sponsor was a huge headache to the program
3) lot more going to football definitely
4) agreed
5) So lives and breathes RU hoops? 30MM have anything to do with it?
Nice guy at this level bad at his job
Lolololol
All of these recruits must be in Greggies highly successful development program. Now I realize do to injuries we did not get to see them …….:.:
Wait , we did and oh yes they were awful and all everyone complained about was our lack of depth .
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