What Would Change the Narrative on Jordan

[Section114]

I have been thinking about this- what would have been acceptable this year for the "majority" of the fan base to want Jordan back for one more year. Personally, I believe it is time and do think he will be let go.

If you look at games we "could have won" but didn't due to either, injuries, missed FT, missed jumper at buzzer or whatever- FOUR games immediately come to mind:

St. Johns
Wake Forest
Monmouth
Illinois

This would make us currently 10-18, but still only ONE conference win. For those of us who think the EJ era is done- would this have changed your mind?

If you go to the next level of losses and turned them around:

Creighton
Indiana
Ohio St. (at home)
Penn State

This would have put us at 14-14, with 4 B1G wins and likely would have assured EJ's return.

While all of this is extremely hypothetical, I thought is would be fun to see what everyone thinks.

I do believe that ALL 8 games above SHOULD have been winnable with the right coach. For all those who said Coach K or Calipari wouldn't win with this roster, I think any coach who is a above GOOD COLLEGE coach could be possibly a .500 team at the moment without a handful of disturbing losses.

So, I actually think this team can make a dramatic improvement next year if the roster stays intact, but I do not think EJ is the coach to do it.

 

[bac2therac]

Its the eye test for me.....we all know a program headed nowhere when we see it...felt the same way with Hill. Its alot of red flags..win and losses are part of that but not everything

 

[Crimedog2]

If recruiting was better and we had a stud or two coming in I would be more positive about Eddie . I am still not convinced the Jordan era is over anyway . He may get another year.

 

[jcrutgers]

I think he deserves another year. The changing coaches every 3 year thing has been proven not to work.

Also exactly who would we get to replace Eddie, another unproven coach at this level.

I think we need to give stability a shot because we have tried every other type of coach for the past 30 years.

 

[RutgersYay]

I think he deserves another year. The changing coaches every 3 year thing has been proven not to work.

Also exactly who would we get to replace Eddie, another unproven coach at this level.

I think we need to give stability a shot because we have tried every other type of coach for the past 30 years.

Stability would be fun if he had 13 wins and wasn't getting blown out nightly. Thy are the worst P5 team in the country in YEAR THREE. There is no hope here. Listen, I get he's Eddie Jordan. He's a Rutgers hero, but there is no silver lining. No chance this gets markedly tha beyond 12/13 wins next year. And that doesn't put us on the right track.

 

[Kbee3]

Stability would be fun if he had 13 wins and wasn't getting blown out nightly. Thy are the worst P5 team in the country in YEAR THREE. There is no hope here. Listen, I get he's Eddie Jordan. He's a Rutgers hero, but there is no silver lining. No chance this gets markedly better beyond 12/13 wins.

I agree. Other than a long run in the Big Ten tourney, I don't see how anyone could seriously think he DESERVES another season.

 

[goru7]

Stability would be fun if he had 13 wins and wasn't getting blown out nightly. Thy are the worst P5 team in the country in YEAR THREE. There is no hope here. Listen, I get he's Eddie Jordan. He's a Rutgers hero, but there is no silver lining. No chance this gets markedly tha beyond 12/13 wins next year. And that doesn't put us on the right track.

No chance above 12-13 wins next year? No chance? Are you going to Vegas and placing that bet? If you are, let me save you the vig, as I will take your bet!!

 

[bac2therac]

Its not no chance..the most likely scenerio is 11-13 wins. Rutgers is guaranteed to be picked DEAD LAST in the Big 10 by coaches and media

 

[jcrutgers]

I think with all the injuries this year cannot be judged fairly. Also think the recruiting class of Saunders, Freemanw and Laurent was pretty solid.

Also let's not forget besides a program given the death penalty he could not have taken over a worse situation.

Actually has nothing to do with Jordan being a Rutgers legend I would have the same opinion about another coach in the same situation.

 

[RutgersDon]

Replace his entire staff.

 

[goru7]

Its not no chance..the most likely scenerio is 11-13 wins. Rutgers is guaranteed to be picked DEAD LAST in the Big 10 by coaches and media

Don't correct what someone has actually posted!! He is a big boy and can speak for himself. Love hearing you and your boys making definitive comments and backing down. I posted that with a full roster, my opinion is that we can win 6-8 Big 10 games. Every post following that from you is that I said 8 wins. First, you are never good at reading comprehension. Second, your damn agenda is so sickening that you have to misquote people to make your ridiculous points. Yeah Bac, Indiana lost to UNLV, and Wake Forest, teams you have posted "suck", explain it !!

 

[goru7]

Its not no chance..the most likely scenerio is 11-13 wins. Rutgers is guaranteed to be picked DEAD LAST in the Big 10 by coaches and media

And the media has never been wrong!!Oh ,my!!

 

[RUChoppin]

I have been thinking about this- what would have been acceptable this year for the "majority" of the fan base to want Jordan back for one more year. Personally, I believe it is time and do think he will be let go.

If you look at games we "could have won" but didn't due to either, injuries, missed FT, missed jumper at buzzer or whatever- FOUR games immediately come to mind:

St. Johns
Wake Forest
Monmouth
Illinois

This would make us currently 10-18, but still only ONE conference win. For those of us who think the EJ era is done- would this have changed your mind?

If you go to the next level of losses and turned them around:

Creighton
Indiana
Ohio St. (at home)
Penn State

This would have put us at 14-14, with 4 B1G wins and likely would have assured EJ's return.

While all of this is extremely hypothetical, I thought is would be fun to see what everyone thinks.

I do believe that ALL 8 games above SHOULD have been winnable with the right coach. For all those who said Coach K or Calipari wouldn't win with this roster, I think any coach who is a above GOOD COLLEGE coach could be possibly a .500 team at the moment without a handful of disturbing losses.

So, I actually think this team can make a dramatic improvement next year if the roster stays intact, but I do not think EJ is the coach to do it.

I didn't need the narrative changed this year - I was excited coming into the season, and I thought that we were finally going to turn a corner.

Then I saw the product on the court.

We should have blown the doors off of Rutgers-Newark early. Youth is no excuse. If you are a major conference team with the amount of talent we had for that game, even without Sanders and Freeman, the game should have been out of hand at the half. That was concerning - but I chalked it up to "first time jitters" and not having a full squad at tip off. They'd shake it off, and get 'em the next game.

Then came Howard, where I thought we'd come out like gangbusters with the two new guys in the lineup from the tip. Nope - sloppy, uninspired. Then we were suddenly in a dogfight in the start of the second half.... with Howard. We finally pulled away, but my confidence for the season was already starting to wear. Still trying to chalk it up to chemistry, since it was the first game back for everyone together.

The St. John's game was just bad. Gave me a lot of confidence that we got up on them early, and we we seemed to be cruising... this was the team I was expecting to see this year, and the pieces were finally coming together. And then the team basically gave up for the last quarter of the game, and collapsed. Brutal no call at the end, but we put ourselves in that position. Was starting to get a sense that it was going to be a long year.

Central Arkasnas dogfight? Definitely going to be a long year. Needed that to be a blowout.

The Vegas tournament... knew we were going to struggle to get to .500. The team just wasn't where I was expecting it to be coming into the season... this is where the narrative started to turn for me. 3-3 heading back to the RAC.

Wake was another lost opportunity, but I was already getting into "same old Rutgers" mindset, so it didn't phase me that much. The big hit was Freeman going down... as soon as I heard he was out, there went the season. That was it. The whole team was struggling... take the best piece out, and EJ's house of cards was going to collapse.

 

[bac2therac]

Wake and UNLV do suck. .it mattered little they scored upsets over Indiana. Rutgers beat Wisconsin laat year woopdeedoo

 

[ruman]

I have been thinking about this- what would have been acceptable this year for the "majority" of the fan base to want Jordan back for one more year. Personally, I believe it is time and do think he will be let go.

If you look at games we "could have won" but didn't due to either, injuries, missed FT, missed jumper at buzzer or whatever- FOUR games immediately come to mind:

St. Johns
Wake Forest
Monmouth
Illinois

This would make us currently 10-18, but still only ONE conference win. For those of us who think the EJ era is done- would this have changed your mind?

If you go to the next level of losses and turned them around:

Creighton
Indiana
Ohio St. (at home)
Penn State

This would have put us at 14-14, with 4 B1G wins and likely would have assured EJ's return.

While all of this is extremely hypothetical, I thought is would be fun to see what everyone thinks.

I do believe that ALL 8 games above SHOULD have been winnable with the right coach. For all those who said Coach K or Calipari wouldn't win with this roster, I think any coach who is a above GOOD COLLEGE coach could be possibly a .500 team at the moment without a handful of disturbing losses.

So, I actually think this team can make a dramatic improvement next year if the roster stays intact, but I do not think EJ is the coach to do it.

Nothing

 

[Mr_Twister]

Perhaps he does a Dick Vermeil-like "No mas" and steps away from the program. He doesn't get fired, he comes to some financial agreement amenable to both parties, and finishes his stint as the bridge (interim coach) between the Mike Rice era and a young, energetic coach who is a program builder and tireless recruiter.

 

[RU MAN]

I have been thinking about this- what would have been acceptable this year for the "majority" of the fan base to want Jordan back for one more year. Personally, I believe it is time and do think he will be let go.

If you look at games we "could have won" but didn't due to either, injuries, missed FT, missed jumper at buzzer or whatever- FOUR games immediately come to mind:

St. Johns
Wake Forest
Monmouth
Illinois

This would make us currently 10-18, but still only ONE conference win. For those of us who think the EJ era is done- would this have changed your mind?

If you go to the next level of losses and turned them around:

Creighton
Indiana
Ohio St. (at home)
Penn State

This would have put us at 14-14, with 4 B1G wins and likely would have assured EJ's return.

While all of this is extremely hypothetical, I thought is would be fun to see what everyone thinks.

I do believe that ALL 8 games above SHOULD have been winnable with the right coach. For all those who said Coach K or Calipari wouldn't win with this roster, I think any coach who is a above GOOD COLLEGE coach could be possibly a .500 team at the moment without a handful of disturbing losses.

So, I actually think this team can make a dramatic improvement next year if the roster stays intact, but I do not think EJ is the coach to do it.

To answer your headline question? A new coach.

 

[scarletschuyler]

Does Coach Ash know anything about basketball?

 

[RU_DIO]

I think he deserves another year. The changing coaches every 3 year thing has been proven not to work.

Also exactly who would we get to replace Eddie, another unproven coach at this level.

I think we need to give stability a shot because we have tried every other type of coach for the past 30 years.

OMG.

We are historically shitty, we aren't doing anything to improve but let's keep him and keep suckin because we've fired coaches before.

 

[RU_DIO]

I think with all the injuries this year cannot be judged fairly. Also think the recruiting class of Saunders, Freemanw and Laurent was pretty solid.

Also let's not forget besides a program given the death penalty he could not have taken over a worse situation.

Actually has nothing to do with Jordan being a Rutgers legend I would have the same opinion about another coach in the same situation.

You are correct that the class of Sanders, Freeman and Laurent was good. The other three classes are bottom tier BIG classes.

Not acceptable. And no way to improve the program. We're a sinking ship and Hobbs better throw a life vest.