Why the QB coach of Rutgers-bound recruit Johnathan Lewis believes in Jerry Kill

[Scarlet_Scourge]

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i..._coach_of_rutgers-bound_recruit_johnatha.html

About the Spread:

"When (the spread) was at its infant stage, he was one of the coaches that implemented it,''' Williams said. "Back in 2001, not too many programs were running it. You had some (major-level) programs like Northwestern and Clemson doing it, but it really grew out of most of the schools having success with it at the Division II level. Jerry has 20-plus years of experience running that system. So I really think he's going to bring a lot of expertise and stability to that offensive unit.''

 

[Knight Shift]

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i..._coach_of_rutgers-bound_recruit_johnatha.html

About the Spread:

"When (the spread) was at its infant stage, he was one of the coaches that implemented it,''' Williams said. "Back in 2001, not too many programs were running it. You had some (major-level) programs like Northwestern and Clemson doing it, but it really grew out of most of the schools having success with it at the Division II level. Jerry has 20-plus years of experience running that system. So I really think he's going to bring a lot of expertise and stability to that offensive unit.''

Sarge did a great job on this article. Have to say, he is still fairly neutral to positive in his tone, and he hit it out of the park with this piece. Just good, old fashioned reporting here:

"John fits the mold as far as what Rutgers and Coach Kill are looking to implement into that program because he's someone that can be that polished pocket quarterback, but has the ability to lower his pad level and run downhill like a running back,'' said Williams, who has trained some of New Jersey's top quarterbacks in recent years, including Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush, Boston College's Anthony Brown, recent Rutgers transfer Michael Dare and Lewis.

At every stop, Kill was known as a coach who adapted his offense to the personnel.[banana]

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[ArminRU]

But some posters think he forgot all that stuff since he hasn't been an OC for awhile.

Kind of like how Schiano forgot how to call plays as a DC for OSU

 

[Dpgru]

Certainly a good article about both Kill and Lewis. Although I think it is in everyone's best interest to oake these kinds of articles with a grain of salt. Just like articles about a commit from a recruit make every one of them sound as if they are going to win the Heisman these articles are all filled with very high praise. That being said, it is certainly reason for hope that this is a good hire.

 

[mildone]

But some posters think he forgot all that stuff since he hasn't been an OC for awhile.

Kind of like how Schiano forgot how to call plays as a DC for OSU

I don't think Kill forgot anything. I think he hardly spent any time at all as an OC (3 seasons) and when he did, it was at Pittsburgh State. That makes your analogy w/Schiano as a DC pretty poor.

Have I missed some aspect of Kill's resume where he was an OC in a P5 program? I'm not asking to be a wise-ass. I'm really wondering what I might have missed that screams offensive genius in his past?

I would have a different take on this if he was hired as a head coach. With which he has had good success long experience. But as an OC, who knows how much of a hand he had in running offensives on his teams and how much was due to his OC's work?

I'm not saying he won't do well. He might do really well. But I (and others) have concerns and those concerns continue to seem relevant and valid to me.

 

[DJ Spanky]

At every stop, Kill was known as a coach who adapted his offense to the personnel.[banana]

That's a huge key right there. We sure could have used him this year.

 

[gef21]

He has the experience that I talked about lacking during the season. Not the xs and os experience but when everything goes wrong what do we do next experience. The adjustment experience. The utilizing players in different ways to FIT THE PLAYERS and not to fit the system.

 

[miker183]

I don't think Kill forgot anything. I think he hardly spent any time at all as an OC (3 seasons) and when he did, it was at Pittsburgh State. That makes your analogy w/Schiano as a DC pretty poor.

Have I missed some aspect of Kill's resume where he was an OC in a P5 program? I'm not asking to be a wise-ass. I'm really wondering what I might have missed that screams offensive genius in his past?

I would have a different take on this if he was hired as a head coach. With which he has had good success long experience. But as an OC, who knows how much of a hand he had in running offensives on his teams and how much was due to his OC's work?

I'm not saying he won't do well. He might do really well. But I (and others) have concerns and those concerns continue to seem relevant and valid to me.

I'd be lying if I said I knew a lot about Kill, or the details of the offense he is looking to run.
But, I'm going to ask you a question, not to judge your post, I am not looking to argue; again I'm not that informed.

Do you think this hire is a significant improvement over Mehringer?

FWIW, the rest will be determined in time as you said, but I'm curious if people think it was a big step. Hell, it may be that DM ends up being a terrific play caller, but I'm confident he wasn't ready for it at this time.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Sarge did a great job on this article. Have to say, he is still fairly neutral to positive in his tone, and he hit it out of the park with this piece. Just good, old fashioned reporting here:

"John fits the mold as far as what Rutgers and Coach Kill are looking to implement into that program because he's someone that can be that polished pocket quarterback, but has the ability to lower his pad level and run downhill like a running back,'' said Williams, who has trained some of New Jersey's top quarterbacks in recent years, including Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush, Boston College's Anthony Brown, recent Rutgers transfer Michael Dare and Lewis.

At every stop, Kill was known as a coach who adapted his offense to the personnel.[banana]

Hope that's the case and that's always something I like to read about coaches.

 

[mildone]

I'd be lying if I said I knew a lot about Kill, or the details of the offense he is looking to run.
But, I'm going to ask you a question, not to judge your post, I am not looking to argue; again I'm not that informed.

Do you think this hire is a significant improvement over Mehringer?

FWIW, the rest will be determined in time as you said, but I'm curious if people think it was a big step. Hell, it may be that DM ends up being a terrific play caller, but I'm confident he wasn't ready for it at this time.

I think the hire is a significant experience gain over Mehringer. But for me, it's unclear yet if it's a significant overall improvement over Mehringer. There is some improvement for sure, simply due to much greater experience. The significance of the improvement remains to be seen.

I know everyone will point to last season's poor results as a means to answer the question. The thinking being: how could anybody do worse than DM. But I don't think DM was nearly as bad as many here do. Young and inexperienced, yes. But I also think DM is extremely intelligent and very likely to be a very good coach. He faced (and Kill would've faced) an extremely tough situation here last season. Kill's experience would have made some difference, but then again, maybe he would've had health problems that greatly limited his ability to contribute. Nobody really knows.

So we'll find out. I'm in no rush to form quick judgements either way.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

But some posters think he forgot all that stuff since he hasn't been an OC for awhile.

Kind of like how Schiano forgot how to call plays as a DC for OSU

There are some serious morons on this board. I could name them, but I won't, however they ARE here!

 

[AreYouNUTS]

This is a fantastic piece. Easily the BEST work done by Sarge since his move to The Dark Side. A MUST READ!!!! Kudos!

 

[RU-ROCS]

I don't think Kill forgot anything. I think he hardly spent any time at all as an OC (3 seasons) and when he did, it was at Pittsburgh State. That makes your analogy w/Schiano as a DC pretty poor.

Have I missed some aspect of Kill's resume where he was an OC in a P5 program? I'm not asking to be a wise-ass. I'm really wondering what I might have missed that screams offensive genius in his past?

This from Kill's press conference should allay some concerns:

"Kill called the offense in most of his previous head coaching stints [except for MN]".

 

[mildone]

This from Kill's press conference should allay some concerns:

"Kill called the offense in most of his previous head coaching stints [except for MN]".

That does allay some concerns. Thanks.