My sister lives in Columbus, where she says there was a raucous celebration of OSU's victory over Michigan. She says the talk in Columbus is that Ohio State will play Alabama for the national championship. Is this really true? After all, Ohio State didn't even win its B1G division. I know I should know the answer to this, and apologize for asking.
Will Ohio State likely be in the national championship game?
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This. Don't know how they'll be seeded, though, so not sure if they'll play Bama (who is also a lock for the playoffs, even if they lose the SEC championship game) in the semis or finals. They are the two best teams, IMO.
Believe they will be in the Playoffs. As for the NC Game, not so sure and depending on who they match up with in the playoffs. JT has some difficulty throwing downfield. This year I think an Alabama defense is a tall order for the OSU offense to overcome
Fivethirtyeight has OSU's chances of going to the CFB Playoff at 90% vs PSU's 10%. OSU's resume is better than PSU's - OSU has beaten #3 Mich, #8 Oklahoma, #6 Wisconsin, #16 Nebraska. PSU has beaten OSU...and that's it in the top 25.
I worry about their O-line against Bama. They have struggled against good D-lines especially in passing situations.
As a Buckeye fan I'd worry about facing Bama. The team is just so darn young and inexperiencced. Youngest in the nation. Michigan had 40 plus seniors and tOSU has 40 plus freshmen. Alabama is so very strong but not unbeatable. I will be happy just being in that final four and let the chips fall where they may.
I was rooting hard for you guys against UM. Great win. You are a young team and going to be hard to beat next year. I really thought if Whining Jim was going to get you it would be this year. Good luck in the playoff and with the time off Urban may be able to scheme the O line problems.
They are likely in the playoffs but....
- They may fall to the 4 seed if the other 3 teams win their conference championship game.
- If PSU wins the B10 championship in a rout then they may get the nod over Ohio St
Alabama - is 12 and 0 so unless they are blown out in the SEC Championship game they will be in the playoff. If they win they are the top seed.
Washington- If they lose the Pac 12 championship game they probably drop out with Oklahoma / OklSt winner replacing them. Or else you can see 2 B10 teams in.
Clemson - Is in if they win. A loss to Va tech and it may be a similar situation as mentioned above for Washington.
Ohio St - is likely in but they did lose to Penn St so a Penn St blow out win of Wisconsin and PSU may have a shot.
outside looking in:
- Penn St / Wisconsin winner
- Oklahoma / Okl St winner
- Michigan
- Colorado
If all the top seeds wins this weekend in normal fashion:
1. Alabama vs 4. Ohio St (gets penalized for not being a conf champ)
2. Clemson vs 3 Washington
- They may fall to the 4 seed if the other 3 teams win their conference championship game.
- If PSU wins the B10 championship in a rout then they may get the nod over Ohio St
Alabama - is 12 and 0 so unless they are blown out in the SEC Championship game they will be in the playoff. If they win they are the top seed.
Washington- If they lose the Pac 12 championship game they probably drop out with Oklahoma / OklSt winner replacing them. Or else you can see 2 B10 teams in.
Clemson - Is in if they win. A loss to Va tech and it may be a similar situation as mentioned above for Washington.
Ohio St - is likely in but they did lose to Penn St so a Penn St blow out win of Wisconsin and PSU may have a shot.
outside looking in:
- Penn St / Wisconsin winner
- Oklahoma / Okl St winner
- Michigan
- Colorado
If all the top seeds wins this weekend in normal fashion:
1. Alabama vs 4. Ohio St (gets penalized for not being a conf champ)
2. Clemson vs 3 Washington
Bama hasn't really played anyone good yet. We won't know if they are legit until the playoffs.
OSU plays like the best team in the country one week and barely wins the next. Who knows what you will get with them.
Who will be 3 and 4? Clemson will get in if they win the ACC, it will depend on who wins the Big Ten. If Wisconsin beats Penn State they will get in, if Penn State wins and Washington wins the PAC-12, Washington will get in. Penn State can't get in even if they win the Big Ten.unless Washington loses.
IMHO.
OSU plays like the best team in the country one week and barely wins the next. Who knows what you will get with them.
Who will be 3 and 4? Clemson will get in if they win the ACC, it will depend on who wins the Big Ten. If Wisconsin beats Penn State they will get in, if Penn State wins and Washington wins the PAC-12, Washington will get in. Penn State can't get in even if they win the Big Ten.unless Washington loses.
IMHO.
I don't see either B1G team jumping a one loss PAC12 champ. You would have to drop Washington in the rankings after winning their game. Seems unlikely. You can argue SOS but based on wins and style points Washington has probably been second best team in the country
Again, it would only work if they lose. The Big Ten champion can't jump them otherwise. They are playing for the championship and the Rose Bowl and the off chance of making the playoffs if Washington or Clemson loses. If Bama loses, ha, they will move to #2 and OSU will move up to #1. OSU can't lose since they are done.
Alabama - tOSU - Clemson - Washington unless Washington loses. Then I would put Michigan in.
It depends how far Michigan dropped, the committee rankings don't follow the same logic as everything else. We will know more on Tuesday.
That's different from what you said the first time, which was Wisconsin getting in if they win. I agree with the 2nd try.
Head to head head plus a possible conference championship trumps that IMO. This is like TCU/Baylor all over again.
If both teams were even or even close but Penn State is not close to Ohio State as far as resumes. If you want the four best teams you cannot include Penn state.
re-read what i wrote the 1st time. Maybe I wasn't as clear..
I re-read it, I wasn't clear. I forgot to write the Wisconsin part, too much focus on PSU.
I was playing around with that Nate Silver table. I tried Bama, Clemson, and Washington all losing their conference championship games, and Wisconsin winning theirs. Then I plugged in Oklahoma State upseting Oklahoma in the Big XII title game and got the following message:
You can play around with it yourself here:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-college-football-predictions/?ex_cid=rrpromo
They should be undefeated, they gave Pen st that game in a fluky manner.
no idea how PSU is even here--they are not that good at all. lucky year for them completely
I personally think Michigan is a little better than OSU, but OSU won and that is all that matters
I think Clemson has cheated death too many times and OSU would beat them soundly.
Washington has the talent and coaching (Petersen has been great in bowl games) but I think the spotlight would be a little too big against Bama. 1 year early.
Wisconsin will beat PSU. Clemson will beat VT. Washington will outslug a very good Colorado team. Doesn't matter who wins Bedlam--winner may play Western Michigan after they beat Ohio (closer than expected) in a BCS 6 bowl matchup.
Top 4: (1) Bama vs (4) Washington; (2) OSU vs (3) Clemson.
I personally think Michigan is a little better than OSU, but OSU won and that is all that matters
I think Clemson has cheated death too many times and OSU would beat them soundly.
Washington has the talent and coaching (Petersen has been great in bowl games) but I think the spotlight would be a little too big against Bama. 1 year early.
Wisconsin will beat PSU. Clemson will beat VT. Washington will outslug a very good Colorado team. Doesn't matter who wins Bedlam--winner may play Western Michigan after they beat Ohio (closer than expected) in a BCS 6 bowl matchup.
Top 4: (1) Bama vs (4) Washington; (2) OSU vs (3) Clemson.
I think as long as games play out like expected we end up #3 and play #2 Clemson. It won;t be an easy game at all, Watcon is a threat running not just passing and their offense is better than xichigan or wiscy. And while their defense is pretty god it isn;t as good as either of those teams.
Think it will be a close game that can go either way.
Think it will be a close game that can go either way.
This committee has made some strange decisions in the past but they have justified their decisions by saying they honor championships, head to head, and strength of schedule. If PSU wins the BIG I think the committee puts them in over OSU based on the first two criteria. This assumes Wash, bAma, and Clemson all win. If Wiscy wins I think OSU goes due to head to head.
Per previous committee comments, head to head only comes into play when the 2 teams are really close on all other criteria.
Therefore, osu in over both wisky and psu.
Where I think it really becomes interesting is if psu beasts wisky in a super close game, will psu be ranked higher than Michigan?
If Clemson and Washington win then it doesn't matter as they'll be in with osu + bama even if they lose.
But if 1 of those 2 lose, oh baby, committee will have a hard time slotting Michigan and psu.
Therefore, osu in over both wisky and psu.
Where I think it really becomes interesting is if psu beasts wisky in a super close game, will psu be ranked higher than Michigan?
If Clemson and Washington win then it doesn't matter as they'll be in with osu + bama even if they lose.
But if 1 of those 2 lose, oh baby, committee will have a hard time slotting Michigan and psu.
Not according to what Kirby Hocutt has said. He has repeatedly stated that the margin between 2-6 is very narrow. Head to head and conference championships will still come into play with Ohio St, because the committee head himself has said that the margin is very close.
He said it on the ESPN CFP ranking show. Go to the WatchESPN app.
The problem is, it's not just Penn St. You have Washington and Wisconsin that Ohio St has to deal with as well.
You are just flat out wrong. This was the head of the playoff committee as 6 days ago. I would love to see your link with his comments saying otherwise. PSU and tOSU are not close in the committees eyes.
It’s clear the selection committee thinks Ohio State is a no-doubt No. 2. Although Penn State beat the Buckeyes, the teams’ résumés remain dissimilar (starting with records: Ohio State is 10-1, Penn State is 9-2).
“Does the selection committee see a small margin of separation this week between No. 2 Ohio State and No. 7 Penn State? We do not,” committee chairman Kirby Hocutt said.
Sorry, I'm not flat out wrong. Again, go watch the selections shows on ESPN. Hocutt has said numerous times that 2-6 is very close.
You also missed the part where I said there were more teams to worry about that just Penn St. I'm sure you will correct the record on that omission.
I kind of agree with this. I think Clemson will get the #2 spot if they win. They have wins at Auburn and FSU and home win against Louisville. I think those 3 with a conf championship should be enough to get them the 2 seed. After that I think OSU could be 3 or 4.
I'm not sure if UW's conference championship and resume is enough to jump OSU.
Still think the B12 is out regardless of results. PSU/Wisconsin are both ranked in front of OU and will be playing each other so it only can bolster their resume while OU is playing Ok State while ranked 10 is still behind the notch gained by the PSU/Wisconsin winner. Plus their losses are bad losses for both OU and Ok. St.
It's UW if they win and if they lose then PSU/Wisconsin vs Colorado.
Colorado has wins vs WSU/Utah (but will they still be ranked tomorrow), now ranked Stanford and highly ranked UW. Big loss against Michigan and close loss to USC.
PSU wins against OSU/Wisconsin and big loss to Michigan and close loss to Pitt.
Wisconsin wins against Nebraska/PSU, unranked LSU and 2 1 score losses to Michigan/OSU.
Either of those 2 against Colorado seems kind of close so I don't know.
that win by PEDU was a fluke, and anyone who watched that game knows it. The better team was OSU.
