...you get it by philosophy. Einstein said it well: "We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them." Year after year after year Greg keeps thinking the same things.
You Don't Get the Worst-Ranked Offense in D-1 by Accident...
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We're 8th worst, you hater. Much better than worst.
Greg put all his eggs in Wimsatt and he's just not any good. Wildly inaccurate, bad football iq and not much of a dual threat at all. He's no better than Sitkowski.
Greg takes any creativity or playmaking out of the QBs' and OCs' hands. His defensive-minded stamp is all over the entire offense, not just on Wimsatt. Wimsatt has major issues that I'm not sure can be remedied, but Greg's offenses have always been a problem. Even after the 2006 season, in 2007 we started 1-5. And here we are, in retrograde.
You know our offense was just as bad last year with Vedral.
Not sure why everyone keeps making him out to be the missing link from this year.
But Wimsatt would not have gotten all that development this year if Vedral was not hurt. He's leaps and bounds ahead of the beginning of the year. . . . . .
The offense was just as bad in the same ways at the start of the season as at the end.
IMO we needed qb options after year 1. We had a nice jump in offense that year but I didn’t think he had the arm to lead a consistent productive offense.
You'll probably disagree, but IMHO a totally healthy Vedral beats Nebraska and MSU Remember, he didn't have Brown last year and the OL was slightly better run blocking.thiz year.
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Of course he didn't, so that's a non-sequitur. My point, which you well understood, was that Greg's stamp on the offense, as well as game-planning for both offense and defense, is for the offense to not make mistakes and have the defense keep it close. Our defenses are fine, but the offenses are always a problem. Always. And that's attributable to his ideology about how to win games, which needs to change.
See my post immediately above. How much difference would a 6-6 season have made? You could have run an air raid offence and not won OSU, MU etc.
Our bottom-feeder offense isn't a reflection of losing to tOSU and UM, and wasn't my original point. I wasn't addressing our overall record, it's Greg's basic philosophy of how to conduct an offense. There's a big gap between accepting that we will lose to the likes of tOSU, UM and PSU and accepting that we lost 31-0 to MN, 37-0 to MD, didn't score on offensive TD against Temple, and so on.
As to your question, a 6-6 season would've been a big difference for us fans, as well as a product of increased offensive output.
Yeah I think that’s more of an issue with not having any playmakers.
This team would be bowling with Kenny Britt and Tiquan Underwood.
Our WRs are so pathetically bad it’s not even funny. They run in sand and can’t shake their defender. It’s pathetic.
Legit WRs are everything in CFB
Less to do with personel more to do with philosophy and coaching. If it is one year it’s personel of its historical it’s design.
"The ball is the program" mantra needs to be replaced with
"Scoring is the program"
Well you know the Read Option play has the words Read and Option missing.
Like said in the other thread, that's only because of Wagner. Count only FBS teams and we are the worst by a comfortable margin
The words "worst" and "offense" have been repeatedly used on a yearly basis for way too long when discussing our team. It's depressing.
The game has long since passed Schiano by. His philosophy doesn’t work and won’t.
He’s a terrible head coach now. Zero appeal. NIL starts with a belief in the coach. He’s a home. He’d ruin great talent if he could even get it now.
He’s a terrible head coach now. Zero appeal. NIL starts with a belief in the coach. He’s a home. He’d ruin great talent if he could even get it now.
Exactly right on his philosophy. It’s not a terrible philosophy if you have talent. The problem is his recruiting is at a C- maybe a D level and there are no signs of improvement in recruiting. He’s whiffed in the portal as well. In other words, get used to what you saw this year.
I can't even figure out what we want to do on offense. Do we have a cohesive offensive philosophy? Our head coach is not an offensive guy, but won't let the offensive guys run their offense. How many different OCs have we gone through, all with same sucky results? I don't even see a way out of this morass...
This is my concern, that no decent OC, even if we compete on price, would want to work for Greg due to his freakish offensive conservatism. For those who want mistake-free ball, Wayne Gretzky said "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take," and Greg's philosophy is to never allow a mistake. Which is tantamount to sandblasting the chance of a good play.
We had two solid recruiting classes in a row and then the 2023 class is Ash level. But even those classes combined aren't really that worse than schools like Purdue, Illinois, Minnesota etc. Those teams have a bunch of starters who are 2 and 3 star guys along with a handful of transfers and they make it work. We have yet to do that for whatever reason, especially offense.
Can’t mince words anymore- we have a very good P5 defense and maybe the worst offense I have ever seen.
The philosophy is don’t turn the ball over. Don’t do anything that might put that at risk. Not moving the ball is perfectly acceptable so we get to punt
He talks to Korsak more than any coach I’ve ever seen talk to a punter.
Gleeson was a completely different coach his first year. Once he got Schiano-ized he turned into what everyone under Schiano turns into on the offensive side. Lost, scared, clueless.
Its bad but 2010 was D1 record setting bad (sacks allowed)
RU defense was ranked 26th before Terp game
http://www.cfbstats.com/2022/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category10/sort01.html
A few posters have used the #26 ranking as the primary measure of how good the RU defense is on a national scale, and the #26 ranking is based solely on yards per game allowed . In published rankings that prefer to use points per game allowed as their sole criteria, the RU defense is ranked 92nd out of 131 teams. The most accurate ranking probably includes a combination of multiple factors, and is probably somewhere in between.
Game points can come from INTs and fumbles
The defense gives-up enough of its own points without offense chipping in lol.
Plus defense gets little help from offense
Michigan was on the field for 38 minutes to RUs 22 minutes
Minn was 41 minutes to RUs 19
Being on defense for a team with an anemic offense can be brutal - especially when other team has the depth to circulate players in and your team is afraid to play the 2s
In RUs defense - those teams have those guys in their program getting coached up for 3 years before they see the field. Rutgers doesn’t have that luxury.
If the game is about Jimmys and Joes - the Fran Brown loss is only going to compound as we haven’t figured out who the next ace recruiter is to keep building talent.
