Big Ten votes to award Penn State full 2014-15 bowl revenue share
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The NCAA restored the wins, gave the team the right participate in post-season play and eliminated other sanctions, no reason to get upset over this. If you think about it , should have expected this to happen.
Is it right or wrong, doesn't matter, it's a done deal and no sense complaining about it .
At least that's the way I feel.
Is it right or wrong, doesn't matter, it's a done deal and no sense complaining about it .
At least that's the way I feel.
Contrary to what some people may want to believe PSU broke no rules as defined by the NCAA as far as a competative advantage. What happened at PSU was a total violation of a criminal offense which is punishable via state and federal laws. These are still passing thru the courts and hopefully will be dealt with as harshly as the offenses are. The folks who let this happen and kept Sandusky on campus with an office are accountable and should be judged accordingly. That's the real issue here.
Plus it turns out Sandusky was innocent after all, and all those lying victims are money hungry leeches.
http://bwi.forums.rivals.com/thread...he-most-recent-allegations-against-him.16542/
http://bwi.forums.rivals.com/thread...he-most-recent-allegations-against-him.16542/
Abro, let's not joke about this (if that's what you're trying to do). Sandusky is guilty...period. And the administrators who had any hint of this are just as bad and should be in the cell next to his. I don't minimize this.
By the same token.the NCAA looks like the fools they are in what they did and are now backing off. PSU's situation consisted of major civil violations which some will.argue had no direct connection to gaining a competative advantage. It will be interesting to see what the penalties are for UNC which definitely violated the number one rule of cheating to gain a competative advantage and conducted complete academic fraud for several years.
Again the NCAA is such a joke that it is becoming more embarassing every day and clearly will result in involvement by Congress when Congress shouldn't be in the picture at all. Wait and see because it will happen as a result of the UNC discretions.
By the same token.the NCAA looks like the fools they are in what they did and are now backing off. PSU's situation consisted of major civil violations which some will.argue had no direct connection to gaining a competative advantage. It will be interesting to see what the penalties are for UNC which definitely violated the number one rule of cheating to gain a competative advantage and conducted complete academic fraud for several years.
Again the NCAA is such a joke that it is becoming more embarassing every day and clearly will result in involvement by Congress when Congress shouldn't be in the picture at all. Wait and see because it will happen as a result of the UNC discretions.
I wonder if the NCAA would be so kind to Rutgers if we had our own Sandusky? I think not. It is all about who you are and not what you did or didn't do that counts. I remember people calling for the Death Penalty for ped state, but now they are better than whole. I hope the victims see this and push to sue for as much money as possible from this institution of higher learning. At least it might take funds away from the bigger and better statute of paterno that they will surely replace.
No competitive advantage? They let a child molester roam their sidelines for years instead of turning him in because they were afraid of the backlash.
Have to agree with this. Maybe they didn't break NCAA violations in a traditional sense, but doing everything they could to cover up the scandal sure gave them an advantage in not tarnishing the program to keep the wins rolling in. In this was not the case, why would the Big Four have covered it up for so long?
We can all Agree that Curley, Spanier and Schultz should be behind bars and the NCAA couldn't be more of a joke.
This shows the complete lack of details people have in the case. You do know he was retired at the time of the incident? The one incident that occurred while he was a coach was reported and the DA decided no crime was committed. The second incident in which the criminal charges occurred was after he retired. Yes penn state screwed up the handling of it. Those will or have been punished by the civil, criminal and possible Clery Act violations. To say Penn State got off Scott free is simply not correct. They have paid millions and many have been fired. The NCAA screwed by not following their own bylaws. Even several high ranking NCAA officials admitted it was out of their jurisdiction and should follow their own rules. They at the very minimum should have followed the standard sanctioning procedure. What the NCAA did would be the equivalent to the president saying that a criminal would not be allowed a trial because it was so egregious and sentencing them.
Although it is not at all similar to the Penn State incident, it will be interesting to see what transpires with North Carolina, which obviously was aiming for competitive advantage with academic fraud. That strikes to the very heart of the so-called "student-athlete" tradition.
As much as I root against PSU they are like the Yankees in a sense when they visit a campus that campus is more likely to sell out. They make money for the other schools by playing them.
The PSU vs RU game was a sell out last year. If you replace PSU with Temple if we were still in the AAC we probably would not sell out.
In this case they were allowed to play in a bowl by the NCAA. They had certain bowl expenses to cover and helped the sponsors by playing. They also helped the league by filling a bowl slot.
The PSU vs RU game was a sell out last year. If you replace PSU with Temple if we were still in the AAC we probably would not sell out.
In this case they were allowed to play in a bowl by the NCAA. They had certain bowl expenses to cover and helped the sponsors by playing. They also helped the league by filling a bowl slot.
NCAA backs down here and they will back down to UNC because those programs make the NCAA money. The NCAA is no different than FIFA. It's all about money and corruption.
Joe Pa was an enabler to a sex offender and I know Joe is currently burning in hell and will forever.
Joe Pa was an enabler to a sex offender and I know Joe is currently burning in hell and will forever.
this should be a nice level headed thread with deep thoughts and careful analysis.
Totally not flame bait...
Totally not flame bait...
Lack of institutional control.
If nothing else, it's a text book example and the worst in the history of college football.
If nothing else, it's a text book example and the worst in the history of college football.
Ho hum. Penn State at the top of the Rutgers board once again. MSU and OSU have top 5 recruiting classes in the Nation, Jim Harbaugh is getting started at Michigan and Flood is losing commitments one day after announcing them. Thank God we have Penn State to focus on.
It's news and relevant to the way the NCAA does things.
For years the NCAA backed off going after the schools with fan-bases that would fight back, Penn St has a fan-base that not only done that, but made the NCAA Cry Uncle.
If anyone out there in Rutgers' land thinks RU Fans would unite to defeat the NCAA when RU is rightfully punished ( like the Nits were), I'll sell you some locker-room showers in Happy Valley you can use.
Rutgers fans would start knocking everyone and everything RU if the NCAA said RU FB made a boo boo , even if it was known the NCAA was wrong.
Supporting RU when it is unjustly attacked over FALSE claims , in not the way a lot of RU fans act, they attack before they protect while claiming
it sounds like something ( insert name here) would do.:chairshot:
The NCAA didn't blame the kids, but go read the PSU board and a great majority of posters blame the kids.
The question no one has asked is - how did Rutgers vote? I strongly suspect that Barchi went along with the granting of the full share. And properly so IMHO. He is the new kid on the block, and you go along to get along.
As Michael Corleone said, we're all part of the same hypocrisy.
As Michael Corleone said, we're all part of the same hypocrisy.
The reason we are getting our bowl money back is because of PA Law. Per the endowment act, any fine over $10 million would have to go to the state treasury. If the Big Ten took another year of bowl money from us, the amount to top the $10 million mark and then the Big Ten would have to pay back all of the money to the Commonwealth. That money has already gone to charities, so it would be coming straight out of the Big Ten's pocket.
It is the same law that forced the NCAA to turn over emails that lead to them being virtually forced to end sanctions.
It is the same law that forced the NCAA to turn over emails that lead to them being virtually forced to end sanctions.
Not as the NCAA defined it. LOIC is not a rule in itself. A school is defined to LOIC when they have multiple cases of breaking NCAA rules. If it was textbook case then the NCAA would have followed their procedures for sanctions. In emails that were released in discovery sr NCAA adminstrators said they had no case against Penn State but bluffed Penn State into sanctions because they knew Penn State would be to embarrassed to fight it.
Probably true the NCAA rushed the case because of how horrible it was..
edited out the rest of my reply because most of it I probably posted a thousand times before
about the cover up.. .
Penn St might have been bluffed, but were guilty as sin.
Making it a win for OJU!
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^ this. The advantage that was conceived by not bringing this to light resulted in tangible wins on the field. Having a known child molester in your program would have surely hurt their own field performance.
You do realize that the instance with Mike Mcquery reporting to Joe occured after Jerry Sandusky had retired correct? So how exactly did Penn State have a known child molester coaching on the sideline? At the time, nobody had a clue about Jerry Sandusky. This argument is rubbish
