That's not what I said. Not even close.
So I didn't bother reading the rest. If you want to address what I actually wrote, then I'll read it and respond.
Simon deserves some reps
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So I didn't bother reading the rest. If you want to address what I actually wrote, then I'll read it and respond.
You misunderstood me, though I understand why. I wasn't arguing with you or creating a strawman as much as framing two different ideas. I actually agreed with you for the most part, though you are certainly welcome to ignore it.
The comment was in response to a post that grouped NV with Simon and a few other retreads. I was actually pointing out that we’d be in much better shape this season with Noah because I believe this demonstrates good reason to be optimistic about next year. When you have D and a line, you don’t need a star QB to be highly competitive. Any mobile QB who is reliable at least in the medium and short game would be a big boost next season. Whether that happens through improvement from Gavin or someone new stepping in. The good news from this is that it’s realistic that we can actually find someone as good or better than Vedral in the portal.
Without breaking Shelby’s Promise, I will suggest that a coach with an 8 year contract doesn’t much worry about the short term
So you’re now reaching to claim that Gavin was the reason we won that game because the handoff was ‘delayed’…. Gimme a break. That’s pure idiocy
Whatever order, if you think 1 TD pass is the reason we came back from down 18 you simply don’t understand math. Help explain to me how a TD pass and 2 pt conversation made up 18 points?
Rather the reason we won that game was NOt because Gavin won it for us, reality is MSU gave us that game as a gift. We needed back to back unbelievable special teams blunders to make that comeback. If you are counting on opponents to make back to back 4th quarter blunders to claim our QB won the game for us you genuinely don’t understand what you are watching when you tune in.
True. The win counts just the same but the ball bounced our way at the end like never before, literally and figuratively.
Just about every football team’s success rests on its OL and DL play. Win the battle in the trenches and the rest of the game becomes much easier.
yes but ours escpecially this year as it was not supposed to be as strong as it was in addition, in context of this thread debate
Thank you for admitting you were wrong. You should watch the games more and less name calling. No one wins or loses the game. It’s a team sport.
no your intimation was exactly that. you can't backtrack it
what is comical is that history is littered with supposed experts who make awful decisons but hey, we don't see the practices so we can't possibly know
LOL. It’s not and I said nothing I would ever want to backtrack. Do you guys drop LSD when you come in the forum? ‘Cause ya’ll are hallucinating.
agreed.. this effort to ignore that and give GW all the credit is absurd.
All we heard last year was how the OL sucked. I was among the few who claimed the OL was not helped at all by a poor passing game and play design and playcalling... that a D not fearing what we could do offensively resulted in, essentially, the OL being given a near impossible task.
Here we are a year later and the OL looks much better and the offense is moving the ball. New OC. New OL coach. Largely same players on OL... and at QB. GW's completion rate is 5% better at 49% compared to 44% last year and he had more pass attempts and completions than last year already.
Now, is that the QB is better so the whole offense is better.. or is it that the OC, OL coach and OL are better so the whole offense is better.. including the QB?
I vote coaches first.. then OL.. then Kyle... then GW.. and with the leading rusher in the Big Ten, You'd think the passing game would be a lot better... easier with the threat of Monangai on any down.
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You are arguing against yourself with this post. You started with the OL was hurt by the poor passing game last year. You ended with the OL is much better but the passing game has not improved.
Both can be true.
What else ya got?
Look.. this thread is about Simon getting reps. Many times this season we could have played him and really seen if he has made strides this past offseason. And while I hope Wimsatt is the man for the rest of the season and the bowl game and even the next two years.. how can ANYONE have watched these games and been happy with his passing accuracy?
It is absurd to even believe Gavin Wimsatt himself is happy with his performances. He knows better than anyone watching how many throws he has missed.. he knows how many times he has locked onto a receiver and missed another.
Why must we pretend he is perfect or deny that we'd like to see Simon get reps when it is obvious Wimsatt is cold as ice. In hope he'll suddenly heat up and make nice throws? Oddly enough, that is what happened vs Michigan State... but remember, we wouldn't have been in such dire need had he played better earlier.
Stop making excuses and using unreasonable assessments of how much he is responsible for the winning record thus far.
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Mr. Pot that you? Meet mr Kettle! You talking about less name calling is comical chief
You guys jumped down my throat here. Still don’t want to give the kid a series??
Painful sticking with Wimsatt.
Has shown nothing to deserve
Has shown nothing to deserve
Is this going to be another "Why did anyone think we'd beat Wisconsin? They are going to win the West and be ranked" things?
Where all week everyone says the game is winnable but then we lose and it's "that game was never winnable"?
Can you imagine being a back up QB on this team and watching this QB play week in and week out and not getting a chance.
Did you watch the game? This was not winnable. This is the least competitive game we played this year.
So what? Wimsatt has 3 pick 6's THIS year. It's impossible for Simon to improve since last year? GW has shown nothing that should prevent someone else from getting a shot.
My totally uninformed speculation:
Simon wants to redshirt and has an understanding with the coaching staff that he will not be used unless necessary. He appeared in one game when Wimsatt was hurt. Note that he did not play in garbage time in the Wagner blowout.
With three games left including the bowl, Simon can now play in any or all of the remaining games and keep his redshirt intact.
If Wimsatt continues to struggle, I think we see Simon.
Simon wants to redshirt and has an understanding with the coaching staff that he will not be used unless necessary. He appeared in one game when Wimsatt was hurt. Note that he did not play in garbage time in the Wagner blowout.
With three games left including the bowl, Simon can now play in any or all of the remaining games and keep his redshirt intact.
If Wimsatt continues to struggle, I think we see Simon.
Simon is not any better and never has had the running ability. I don't think the next year quarterback is on this team. And with Simon we scored 10 points last year. Don't understand why Wimsatt did not run. Doesn't matter Iowa DL is better than our OL.
We could absolutely beat Iowa. But not the way we played today. We beat ourselves with those penalties. This reminded me of the NW game. We kept it manageable and went for a couple of 4th and shorts. That got us the lead and they were forced to play our game.
Kids who work hard in practice deserve a shot when the kids in front of them don't perform - simple as that. It's not like there's a huge difference between GS and Simon.
Even "if" Simon were the answer this year, answer for what?
We are already bowl eligible.
What is Simon going do that Wimsatt isn't?
I'd rather give Wimsatt the snaps to aid in development for next year.
If anything, Sheppard needs a series a game. Just so he's not 100% unprepared for next year (only 99% unprepared).
We are already bowl eligible.
What is Simon going do that Wimsatt isn't?
I'd rather give Wimsatt the snaps to aid in development for next year.
If anything, Sheppard needs a series a game. Just so he's not 100% unprepared for next year (only 99% unprepared).
