So? That’s a lot of kids lives being affected. It’s easy for you to say so.
So? That’s a lot of kids lives being affected. It’s easy for you to say so.
Yessir is clueless. I don’t know if it’s just last year but in baseball, top ACC schools recruited 15+ pitchers in a class. Some kids left HS early. Others literally left the week after senior year ended even missing graduation. Trained all Summer and Fall with the team. Then right before Thanksgiving 6 or 7 freshman pitchers were cut and next day badge access to athletic facilities turned off. They could stay on scholarship but not train or have any association with the team. And No more NIL. So they entered transfer portal but baseball is F’d up because they can’t immediately transfer to another D1 school since the season was just starting. Makes no sense to the point my wife called the NCAA HQ and the rep even said baseball is a mess. So the only option for the kids was JUCO.
Aldo,Once again you are clueless. If it helps you sleep at night, my daughter is a National HS AA. My other kid is a two-sport D1 prospect at one of the top HS in the country. And it’s my daughter’s boyfriend that is the D1 pitcher that got screwed by an ACC school and is now at a JUCO as of two weeks ago. I live in this sports world buddy. You know nothing other than ESPN.com headlines. Roster cuts, transfer portal, NIL/settlement = it’s a f’in mess for a lot of athletes that a few years ago would never be in this situation. For every feel-good NIL story of a kid making big bucks there plenty of other kids getting shown the door or getting bumped from a starting spot thanks to the transfer portal. I’m not saying the college sports world is coming to an end but times are changing and I don’t think it’s for the better.
Yeah, he knew but this is the first year that schools are making aggressive roster cuts in anticipation of the settlement not to mention the transfer portal is an easy way to grab talent. They also pushed his arm really hard so by November his velocity was down and just needed some rest. But the school didn’t care. It was basically a 5-month tryout.Were the pitchers not aware there was 14 other players coming in?
Did the coaches lie and say "no we only have 4 pitchers coming in"?
Assuming they knew, not sure the problem.
The players bet on themselves and lost.
Yes he could have stayed at the school on scholarship no problem. But he would not have been allowed to pitch or practice with the team. Only attend classes. As a pitcher who coming out of HS was projected as a late round pick (and had a ton of offers) he realized he had to get on a roster and D1 JUCO was the only path right now.Aldo,
Are you saying your daughter’s boyfriend signed a letter of intent to pitch for an ACC school, and was subsequently cut from the team.
Yet because he was offered a scholarship, if he wanted, he could have stayed at the ACC school for free 4 years?
I was going to debate this but then remembered my senior year. Got into Rutgers College early admissions and had enough cred that I didn't have to do squat the 2nd half of senior year. Didn't even attend most classes because then as an 18 you I could sign out of school.Yeah but to miss his last few months of high school …seems kinda dumb. Wimsatt would probably agree
Zappaa you obviously know this world and I don’t think people realize how hard the baseball path is. The kid had dozens of scouts at his HS games including the Yankees. But his draft position dropped enough his senior year that going to a top 20 ACC school to pitch made sense. He was also a big time football player which the schools liked because it was less wear on his arm. But from June-November he pitched too much or atleast more than he had in the past. Velocity/speed was down. They cut him and 6-8 other pitchers. So the kids had to choose between staying on scholarship with no baseball or going somewhere to play. JUCO was the only option which seemed so unbelievable to my wife she called the NCAA HQ.Aldo,
Are you saying your daughter’s boyfriend signed a letter of intent to pitch for an ACC school, and was subsequently cut from the team.
Yet because he was offered a scholarship, and accepted it….if he wanted, he could have stayed at the ACC school for free 4 years?
Wow,Zappaa you obviously know this world and I don’t think people realize how hard the baseball path is. The kid had dozens of scouts at his HS games including the Yankees. But his draft position dropped enough his senior year that going to a top 20 ACC school to pitch made sense. He was also a big time football player which the schools liked because it was less wear on his arm. But from June-November he pitched too much or atleast more than he had in the past. Velocity/speed was down. They cut him and 6-8 other pitchers. So the kids had to choose between staying on scholarship with no baseball or going somewhere to play. JUCO was the only option which seemed so unbelievable to my wife she called the NCAA HQ.
I get the encouraging to move on talk. After 3 months sounds very aggressive though . Especially if the kid was all American and a stud. But saying the scholarship is till good for 4 years boggles my mind. I know scholarships increased but how do you justify keeping someone for 4 years and not allowing them access to the field? Makes zero sense.Wow,
What i don’t get is the seeming mismanagement?
If a kid has a tired arm, it should be obvious to the coach’s and trainers to shut the kid down and allow his arm to recover.
So I get my facts straight, he graduated HS in June and went to ACC school in the fall where he participated in their fall season…is that correct?
So between September and November he developed a tired arm… the coaching staff thought “this kid can’t help us even if we give him rest “
So they cut him?
Kid wants to pitch and have a career, obviously he’s gonna transfer, but why couldn’t he transfer to another D 1 school like Rutgers?
Went to ACC college in June a few days after school ended. Trained/pitched all Summer and Fall. Apparently baseball players that enter the portal in December can’t transfer in for the Spring season/semester. Made no sense and even the NCAA rep said baseball is not a good transfer situation. But the kid was talking to plenty of coaches and had people helping him. Just about every JUCO offered him. His roommate at the JUCO is a University of Maryland pitcher in the same boat. RU will be on his list as they offered him out of HS and is close to home.Wow,
What i don’t get is the seeming mismanagement?
If a kid has a tired arm, it should be obvious to the coach’s and trainers to shut the kid down and allow his arm to recover.
So I get my facts straight, he graduated HS in June and went to ACC school in the fall where he participated in their fall season…is that correct?
So between September and November he developed a tired arm… the coaching staff thought “this kid can’t help us even if we give him rest “
So they cut him?
Kid wants to pitch and have a career, obviously he’s gonna transfer, but why couldn’t he transfer to another D 1 school like Rutgers?
It’s all very unfortunate - the coaches know a player can’t sit on the shelf for a semester if they want a shot at getting drafted, yet the 4 years is guaranteed. So they tell the kid he can’t play or access facilities to force a 19 year old kid’s hand. The main point I’ve tried to make in this thread and others is there are lots of kids getting screwed by this new NIL/settlement world we are entering.I get the encouraging to move on talk. After 3 months sounds very aggressive though . Especially if the kid was all American and a stud. But saying the scholarship is till good for 4 years boggles my mind. I know scholarships increased but how do you justify keeping someone for 4 years and not allowing them access to the field? Makes zero sense.
I don’t understand going down in June, all ACC players are playing in college summer leagues?Went to ACC college in June a few days after school ended. Trained/pitched all Summer and Fall. Apparently baseball players that enter the portal in December can’t transfer in for the Spring season/semester. Made no sense and even the NCAA rep said baseball is not a good transfer situation. But the kid was talking to plenty of coaches and had people helping him. Just about every JUCO offered him. His roommate at the JUCO is a University of Maryland pitcher in the same boat. RU will be on his list as they offered him out of HS and is close to home.
Only time I’ve seen and witnessed the talk after one season or less is due to an academic or good citizen issue. Not saying this kid is either but none of this makes sense. Down to bringing in 15 pitchers. The roster only allows for 34 scholarships. Up from 11 a couple of years ago. The math is not mathing. There is just not enough money to bring in 15 pitchers and purge one of their best prospects after 3 months.It’s all very unfortunate - the coaches know a player can’t sit on the shelf for a semester if they want a shot at getting drafted, yet the 4 years is guaranteed. So they tell the kid he can’t play or access facilities to force a 19 year old kid’s hand. The main point I’ve tried to make in this thread and others is there are lots of kids getting screwed by this new NIL/settlement world we are entering.
It has nothing to do with the topic, early enrollees.So? That’s a lot of kids lives being affected. It’s easy for you to say so.
Don't give a damn about high school. Freshman year of ollege was 100 times more fun than senior year of h.s.True, but you’re giving up 1/2 your Senior Year. It makes sense if a kid has a really good chance to play right away. But for OLs, who are going to need 2-3 years of development anyway, not sure it makes so much sense.
How many had 1,000 points in basketball before he leaves his team, in the middle of the season, for no really good reason. I'm sure his teammates are thrilled. There goes the State Championship.Early enrollment has been happening for well over a decade.
BIG FACTS!Don't give a damn about high school. Freshman year of ollege was 100 times more fun than senior year of h.s.
Instead he trades that in for 6 more months of 20k+ women aged 18-22 as an athlete and moves away from home… I’m sure his teammates understand and would do the sameHow many had 1,000 points in basketball before he leaves his team, in the middle of the season, for no really good reason. I'm sure his teammates are thrilled. There goes the State Championship.
Teenages understand? Stop. They just kissed their season goodbye. And yes they would do the same which is the sad part.Instead he trades that in for 6 more months of 20k+ women aged 18-22 as an athlete and moves away from home… I’m sure his teammates understand and would do the same
This is happening in other sports too. Four of my daughter’s old club teammates (my daughter played up a year) left early last year to enroll in January. Trained all spring/summer. Played the Fall season. A week after it ended they were told to transfer if they want to play or they can keep their schollies but would not be part of the team. It’s an entirely a numbers game. The teams over recruited. Had like 15 girls in the class. Cut 7 or 8. Picked up 3 in the portal.Only time I’ve seen and witnessed the talk after one season or less is due to an academic or good citizen issue. Not saying this kid is either but none of this makes sense. Down to bringing in 15 pitchers. The roster only allows for 34 scholarships. Up from 11 a couple of years ago. The math is not mathing. There is just not enough money to bring in 15 pitchers and purge one of their best prospects after 3 months.
AbsolutelyDon't give a damn about high school. Freshman year of ollege was 100 times more fun than senior year of h.s.
Only time I’ve seen and witnessed the talk after one season or less is due to an academic or good citizen issue. Not saying this kid is either but none of this makes sense. Down to bringing in 15 pitchers. The roster only allows for 34 scholarships. Up from 11 a couple of years ago. The math is not mathing. There is just not enough money to bring in 15 pitchers and purge one of their best prospects after 3 months.
What sport is your daughter playing at that elite level?She played on a national championship team at a top club in the country. Every single girl on her team went D1.
I don’t understand going down in June, all ACC players are playing in college summer leagues?
The best of which is the Cape League.
if I were the kid, i would have told said ACC school I’m not coming in June, I’ll see you when school begins in August
I don’t think he had a choice at the same time they treat athletes like Gods so he had a crazy apartment, all the food he could eat, best training facilities, etc. He wanted to go early. FWIW, I’m not a baseball guy and much of my info comes from my daughter. The most shocking thing to me is how many kids they cut at Thanksgiving and then he entered the portal but couldn’t transfer to any D1 schools because of the season timing and JUCO was the only option other than staying on schollie without baseball. He’s at a top JUCO for baseball and the new JUCO eligibility ruling does help him.
Nothing has changed with the Cape league.Unless things have changed, the Cape League used to be a great summer with solid baseball.
Soccer.What sport is your daughter playing at that elite level?
I don’t understand going down in June, all ACC players are playing in college summer leagues?
The best of which is the Cape League.
if I were the kid, i would have told said ACC school I’m not coming in June, I’ll see you when school begins in August
I understand what you’re saying, my perspective was different.If you are a 1st rd pick, maybe you can set the terms like that.
If you are a mid-late rounder going to Georgia Tech, you don’t. There’s a kid in my sons conference going there and they’ve been dictating his conditioning program and monitoring pitch count since his junior year. The top guys don’t run around on club team - they get all-expenses paid to pitch in showcase tournaments only.
If they said come down to workout on campus in June with coaches, he’s going down in June. If over that time they get to know the kid and he (or his Dad) is a PITA, you can guess what’s gonna happen.
I think this is part of the reality the NCAA sees and why they are saying the JUCO won’t ding against eligibility. The timing of all of this stuff is all out of whack.
Correct she is on the list. And most of the girls play/played on the same club/team.AI Overview
Here are some of the top New Jersey high school girls soccer players for 2025 and 2026:
Some of the top New Jersey high school girls soccer teams include: Rutgers Prep, Mountain Lakes, Ramsey, Chatham, and M Morris Knolls.
- Addison Halpern: In 2025, Halpern was named the Girls Soccer Player of the Year for New Jersey and played for Rutgers Prep.
- Jordana DeNegri: In 2025, DeNegri was ranked second in New Jersey for girls soccer.
- Chelsea Leal: In 2025, Leal was ranked third in New Jersey for girls soccer.
- Riley Cross: In 2025, Cross was ranked fourth in New Jersey for girls soccer.
- Sara Groseibl: In 2026, Groseibl was ranked first in New Jersey for girls soccer.
- Lena Tusche: In 2026, Tusche was ranked second in New Jersey for girls soccer.
- Olivia Robinson: In 2026, Robinson was ranked third in New Jersey for girls soccer.
- Ella DiCostanzo: In 2026, DiCostanzo was ranked fourth in New Jersey for girls soccer.
I’m guessing Aldo’s daughter is one of the above
Congratulations!Correct she is on the list. And most of the girls play/played on the same club/team.
Maybe his desires are different than his secondary sport goals.How many had 1,000 points in basketball before he leaves his team, in the middle of the season, for no really good reason. I'm sure his teammates are thrilled. There goes the State Championship.
Some people are just ready to move on.Yeah but to miss his last few months of high school …seems kinda dumb. Wimsatt would probably agree
I had no secondary sport, my favorite sport was the one I was playing in season 😊Maybe his desires are different than his secondary sport goals.
FIFYMaybe his desires are different than his income goals.
Does this young man get paid more for enrolling early? Do you know the details of his deal?FIFY
The only goal anymore is money, not the love of the game.
That is an awesome answer and the exact thing my son said this weekend when someone asked his favorite sport.I had no secondary sport, my favorite sport was the one I was playing in season 😊